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Majority of new PCs ship without Windows Vista, Gates (unintentionally) reveals

DougF
01-08-2008, 03:14 PM
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/67663,majority-of-new-pcs-ship-without-windows-vista-gates-unintentionally-reveals.aspx

kayleigh
01-15-2008, 01:20 AM
I wonder how many other PCs are built by end-users who don't load Vista. (For me, in the last 12 months: 4 new systems, 3 rebuilt systems, 3 systems rolled back from Vista. 10 XP licenses!!)

jkcomputers
01-16-2008, 10:46 AM
Well I do build and sell computers for my day time job, So far, Out of the 15 computers/ laptops this year, only 1 has left with vista...

The Wizard Of OZ
01-16-2008, 06:36 PM
I bought an entry level Toshiba laptop a few months ago and I was leery of Vista because of what I had read, but I went ahead and got it anyways. I am about to uninstall my PCDJ and put it onto an XP computer. The laptop is going to my daughter who is a college student. She has less technical and less mission critical needs than I do. For surfing the net, WP, SS and basic stuff it's fine. If you want to plug lots of things into it and use the USB ports with multiple devices and have multiple programs running all at the same time forget it, the system will crash.

This isn't an underpowered laptop either. It has a powerful new generation processor and 2GB of RAM. An old PC that I built maybe 4 or 5 years ago running an athlon several generations behind and many mhz slower is faster, more responsive and less problematic. It's running XP. If I put XP on the laptop it would be a screamer. Vista sucks my cajones.

kayleigh
01-19-2008, 05:34 AM
I don't want to knock Microsoft for introducing a new, innovative interface, but I have a real problem with the OS overhead and stability. In all fairness, I said the same thing about Windows 95 (I took 2 years to "adapt/adopt") and XP (ummm... I "adopted" from 2000 this month!)

[Start Rant]
Hasn't it become that the ultimate job of an OS is
- to handle hardware "gracefully" and
- meet the user's demands on *whatever* they do?
(In the days of UNIX and DOS, the answer was "NO," I'll admit.)

Today's computer users are much more sophisticated. Even "casual" users resist changes to their familiar desktop - more than "techs" resist having to find solutions to driver problems that used to mean changes to the AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS

Grrrrrr... I just get angry because it seems that M$ wants to drive "innovation" by forcing people to upgrade their computer's hardware, and drive hardware manufacturers to "innovate" to drive the OS. Just to be "current."

It reminds me of high school. (The Cool Kid just bought a new Trans Am with 250HP under the hood. Gee, your Ford Pinto doesn't look as cool, does it?)
[End Rant]

OK. I'm much better now. :D

DougF
01-19-2008, 11:23 AM
Microsoft? Innovation???? those are two words that just shouldn't be used together, unless you call putting some new hardware on the cabinets, doors and drawers, polishing the brass and putting on a new coat of paint over the same old tired house innovation.

DjDennis
01-19-2008, 09:31 PM
Sorry, but as for using vista "NO THANKS" - No one will ever get me to swap no matter how much money I can see being put in my Bank account!!!


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