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VDJ Cue points

sirdj
01-17-2008, 05:49 PM
Is there a way to save cue points on VDJ?

knardini
01-17-2008, 08:09 PM
Yeah, just click on the cue button and it will show on your display...until you remove it, it will be there everytime you pull up the same track.

I cue starting spots, spots in songs that change from slow to fast (like in sandstorm) to cue some stuff I say, and of course starting points for beatmaching.

Cap Capello
01-17-2008, 10:43 PM
Sometimes those queue points can be tricky. If you set one, and it doesn't work how you want it to, hover your mouse over the queue point, right click, and it will give you an option to delete it. Very handy.

djMarco
01-18-2008, 08:36 AM
Yap,once you cued the song the cue point stays there untill you move it else where.

Cap Capello
01-18-2008, 09:53 AM
DJ Marco: Sorry. You are incorrect. It can be deleted.

When you place your mouse pointer directly on the queue point line in the skin's window:

a) {Virtual DJ default skin}: the queue point turns darker;
b) {VMix 3.0 skin}: the little buble says "Que 1" or "Que 2", etc

right click your mouse, and you'll have two options:

1) rename the queue point;
2) delete the queue point.

Pretty neat, isn't it?

djMarco
01-18-2008, 10:03 AM
Yap Cap youre right but i doit easy way.I set my cues where they belong and leave it there-for example the song with wery long intro which i dont need i set cue on first kick or vocal start and leave there.If i want start the song from start simply press the Stop button twice and start the song from begining and cue point stays there where i start the song most of the time.

Cap Capello
01-18-2008, 11:03 AM
DJ Marco : I agree except that if the queue point is not set exactly where one wants it, deleting it and starting fresh is easier than trying to move it.

Even though storage media is incredibly inexpensive nowadays, native .vob/.mpg files are huge. Removing even 1 minute of extraneous unwanted footage from one file can save 10mb-15mb of drive space. When the video library reaches 4,000 tracks, a couple hundred of these videos with undesirable beginnings or endings (queue points do not address where to stop a file) can equate to several gigs of wasted space.

Yes, it is tons of extra labor, but by using the Sony Vegas or TMPEG Express programs, all the unneeded beginnings or endings can be physically trimmed and removed, right down to the perfect track beginning beat.

Queue points rely on a database to store the information. Lose the data base for any reason and those queue points are history too. By altering/editing the physical file, the possibility of data base corruption becomes a non-issue...forever.

sirdj
01-18-2008, 04:40 PM
They lose the Cue point when you use automix, I'm concerned like let’s say I'm doing something interactive and have a set of 3 songs, I put them in automix, for example I have a song from Barry White, if I cue in manual mixing it will keep its starting point as I set it, but once I go into automix it goes back to the original starting point of the song. Is there a way to override this?

Cap Capello
01-18-2008, 04:57 PM
SirDJ : I tried every automix setting available and when automix is selected, queue points go bye bye. Wish I had the answer in VDJ software however this is another excellent reasoning behind doing the physical file edit.

sirdj
01-18-2008, 06:58 PM
Thanks Cap,

My library is ripped in 192 BR in MP3 format, won't lose quality if I edit the song?

Cap Capello
01-18-2008, 09:23 PM
SirDJ : Dicey question and twice as dicey response.

But first, are you talking video file editing or straight audio file editing?

If you're audio file editing and using a quality edit program such as Audition, the edit program extracts to mp3 into a wav file. The decoder (Fraunhoffer IIS and Adobe itself) does it's absolute best to "estimate" what frequencies were compressed during the original "rip". Unfortunately, a goodly portion of the original sound file was "surgically" permanently removed and no program can accurately rebuild the whacked portions.

Once the song has been edited as a wav file, one can save it again as an mp3 and it will be slightly less than the original but no where near as degraded had it been a 128 merely being saved as a 192 via a straight ripper. In the later's case, all you'd have is a 128 taking up the same disc space as a 192 and being a second generation file to boot.

Most vob and/or mpg files have virtually wav file audio so there's little to no loss during edit.

Hope this helps 'cause my head hurts right now.