Hercules DJ Console Rmx

Anyone see this?

http://www.hercules.com/us/news/bdd/news/17/titre/introducing-the-hercules-dj-console-rmx

http://www.hercules.com/us/DJ-Music/bdd/p/62/dj-console-rmx/#product_tech_carac

I have.. in fact two of five prototypes that exist are here with me :sqbiggrin:

If you're coming to Vegas, I'll be there showing them. Please come by, and try one out.

Production models are scheduled to ship late March or early April, last I heard.

Nope.I try only the old one model 2.Its a little too small for my hands.This one could be the right one, it loocks bigger.Is any softwere bundled?

Yes, the RMX will come bundled with an LE (limited edition) version of Virtual D.J., and will work on either PC or Mac. It is compatible with Traktor, and can be midi-mapped for other softwares as well.

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg156/ThatDJ/vegasbaby.jpg

good heavens, I didn't realize the picture was so large.... sorry

let me try another pic and see if I can get the size right, and show that the "footprint" of the RMX is SUBSTANTIALLY roomier than the MK2, and my goofy face again.

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg156/ThatDJ/vegasbaby2.jpg

let me try another pic and see if I can get the size right, and show that the "footprint" of the RMX is SUBSTANTIALLY roomier than the MK2, and my goofy face again.

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg156/ThatDJ/vegasbaby2.jpg


Any idea when it will hit the market and at what price point?

Late March or early April, and the "street price" (MAP) will be $349.99

Cool... how does the LE version of VDJ compare to the full version.... (ie what's missing)?

For my taste the difference betwen LE and Full version is not relevant.I need in softvere Two players and SINC button everything else and many schiki miki functions i dont need.Im old scool Dj.It only be fine too have a good stabil controller.

What I'm most curious about is how it displays file info and what info it displays specifically does it display BPM and the songs Key?

Also does it beat mix?

Jokerswild:Every VDJ show you BPM and does Beatmixing.For song key im not sure but in older versions of VDJ song key was not displayed.

I work with VDJ for 3 years and the Atomics products for 8 years(the same firm just another label).I dont have any problems at all.Who made it- i dont care.BUT
In half you are right.The Service and support are terible.Once you buy the product-Bye Bye,Aufviredsen,Cao...And i think thats theire problem.I hear youre support is the best and..Who knows,maybe one day...

Cool... how does the LE version of VDJ compare to the full version.... (ie what's missing)?

The LE version will do audio only, and (I believe) only allow you to use the default skin. It is also "tied" to the controller. If you try to use the software without it, the software won't boot up. The full version does audio, video, karaoke, and is skinnable, and can work with or without a controller.

What I'm most curious about is how it displays file info and what info it displays specifically does it display BPM and the songs Key?

Also does it beat mix?

Yes to everything except key (but I'm told that's in the works).

Will they package the controler by itself... so that folks can pick their own software to use it with?

I basically am just looking for a way to control my software without the necesity of a keyboard and mouse for every function... I like and don't like VDJ for one thing.

I like Rockit for a lot of things but I also like Ots DJ for a lot of things.... I already have a license for the later one.

My software can work with any MIDI controller on the market -- all it takes is a simple text mapper file. I can even do a skin to look exactly like any controller -- again, simple text mapper and some graphics.



If the manufacturers would put different trial versions of software that can work with their controllers, on the install discs, it would allow the users to look at all of them, and try them out.

Rick:If I understand you good.Youre program will work with the controller or you can make the program working with Hercules??!

Rick:If I understand you good.Youre program will work with the controller or you can make the program working with Hercules??!

As long as it is MIDI capable, Rockit can work with it :)

I don't have one to make a mapper and test with, but anybody can do it. Just take a look at the mapper files already available in Rockit for the other controllers, and change the MIDI key to whatever it has in it's manual.

For example, here's a few lines from our Numark mapper (the lines that start with <!-- are comments by me):

<!------------------------------------------------------------------------>
<!-- Numark Total Control - Hardware controller mapping. -->
<!-- Author: SoftJock. -->
<!-- Date : 10/2007. -->
<!------------------------------------------------------------------------>
<!-- Types available: button, slider, knob, scrollknob. -->
<!-- Can be associated with indicator lights on the controller. -->
<!-- lit can be 0 = none, 1 = On/Off type, 2 = just blink when pressed. -->
<!-- Buttons can be hold down (e.g. only do their thing when held down. -->
<!-- An example would be a pitch bend button. -->
<!-- Use hd = 1 for held down function, or hd = 0, -->
<!-- or leave out for normal operation. -->
<!------------------------------------------------------------------------>
<cm action="a-play" type="button" midikey="67" rlow="0" rhigh="127" lit="2" lkey="62"/>
<cm action="a-pause" type="button" midikey="59" rlow="0" rhigh="127" lit="2" lkey="61"/>
<cm action="a-stop" type="button" midikey="51" rlow="0" rhigh="127" lit="2" lkey="60"/>


action = the command for Rockit to do.
type = button, slider, etc.
midikey = the command the controller sends
rlow = usually the off state for a button (or low on a slider).
rhigh = usually the pressed state for a button (high on a slider).
lit = does it have a light.
lkey = the command that Rockit sends the controller to turn the light on/off.


Pretty simple stuff :)

I AM a VDJ user and I am from Europe.We just discus a new product which loocks wery good from Company that you work for.Me and Rick just talk about what were nice for example more softweres to use with.We dont mean anything bad and Im sorry if you understand that so.
Like I said in one of the Posts:I like Hercules because of Power suply and its one of few controlers that can operate as stand alone mixer.Older model was OK but a bit too small for my hands.

Hi i'm shaun and i'm from india (Chennai) and also i'm new to this forum. I'm a doctor and a partime dj for many years now and i've been using VDJ and hercules mk2 for some time now. I really wanna get hold of this rmx console. but i have no idea of any dealers in india (I thoroughly searched for them extensively but in vain) I got the previous mk2 console luckily thro a friend who was travelling to india from UK. I wish anyone here could kindly guide me in this aspect of aquiring the new console rmx in india. Thank you

I've just put an email in to my "higher ups" and hope to be able to have an answer to you within a day.

Well thanks a lot steve, i sure hope i can get my piece soon. Btw there was a posting in the vdj forum by a pro level user tat rmx has a lot of flaws and its buttons are either unresponsive or malfunction the command. And also the led lights are on only for a few buttons and not all of em. Any comments pls? Cos this has made not just me but many other ppl to think twice abt gettin an rmx. Just look into the tech support section of the community link in virtual dj site. Pls give ur opinion as u do represent the hercules company and this info if false might pose a threat to many vdj users like me. Thank you :)

I can't speak for Steve, but I get all kinds of flak for mappers for my software too, and here is my take...


When you write software that can map to MIDI controllers, you basically send out a mapper that is simple. They are text files, that can then be edited by the user, to do what they want -- they are not an end all, just a starting point.

In my case, I included lots of comments for the different mappers, so I DON'T have to keep writing mappers -- that is the users job.

So, somebody comes along, and creates a crummy mapper file, distributes it all over the internet, and next thing you know -- who gets the blame -- the hardware and software producers :sqerr:


As a software or hardware producer, you cannot control what people put into these text mappers -- you can only give them a starting point, and hope they can figure it out... ;)


IMHO, the whole point of using MIDI and mappers, is to empower the end user to use their brains and creativity, and create something for themselves :)


Not picking on you Shaun, it's just thats how this stuff usually happens, and bad info starts to multiply quickly on the net...

Well rick, i would totally agree with you, but all this is correct from a software/hardware/programmer point of view. For some who know nothing about it, it may seem quite complicated. Cos majority of the people would like their midi controller to behave like how the manual says, any setbacks or flaws would be at first criticised. I understand, cos i've fiddled with some mappers, more over, i took notice of this since the post was by a senior professional user. I just wanted a professional opinion, apart from that i'm not against anything else. :)

Shaun:

I haven't gotten a reply to my email yet, but I'll try calling during business hours tommorrow, regarding India.

I'll have a look at the VDJ Board (which I only frequent once in a while), to see if I can find the posts and/or threads you're referring to. If you'd like to PM me the links to the posts you're mentioning and/or let me know the user name of the poster you're mentioned, that would be useful.

I did find out that the anticipated "street date" of the RMX consoles, at least in North America has been pushed back about a month, to the first week in May. That being the case, I'm not sure how it's possible to have a review at all, either bad or good, so I'd like to see the posts and thread you're referring to.

My demos and experience have been with two prototypes of the RMX, and while I have had issues along the way, they did not include problems with malfunctioning and/or non-responsive buttons. Before doing any live demos with them, I beat these units up, looking for issues of this type. It is true that not all of the buttons on the RMX are backlit, however, but my understanding, from an engineering standpoint, not backlighting all the buttons lessens the power draw from the USB port. In other words, in this case, it's not a flaw nor an error, but a design decision. Do I agree with it, or would I have done this the same way? Not necessarily, but at least I understand it. And now, so do you.

Steve, thanks again for workin on the info i need for gettin the rmx in india. Btw, i've pm'd u the name of the person who made that posting and a link to that page. Hope it would be helpful and i truly hope, all wat is said about the rmx turns out to be false :)

I don't want to hijack a thread from the VDJ forums to here, but several of the "problems" the user initially reported were simply preferences (he would have preferred something were setup or functioned differently - and as Rick pointed out, the mapping between software and hardware evolves over time), learning curve issues (which he admitted), and/or difficulty doing things in ways that are FAR from the way Hercules, or Behringer intended.. in this case using Hercules and Behringer controllers to run dual instances of Virtual D.J. (four decks).

Maybe I'm too much of a "keep it simple, stupid" kind of guy, but isn't running drivers from competing products together asking for trouble? I personally found this to be true about two years ago, when I tried to use my Hercules MK2, just for the controls, while using the soundcard portion of a Rane mp4mixer, and had huge problems as well. But I didn't claim that something was defective because these products didn't work together in way they were never intended to, simply because I wanted them to.

Well i understand that he wanted the console to behave to his liking. Its just that his review has scared me and has made me think twice so as not to get some issue and fiddle with it forever. I had absolutely no issue with the mk2 and it worked perfectly well. I just wish the rmx does the same. Steve btw, any info about its accessibility in india? Thanks :)

It's 10:30 p.m. in California, 1:30 a.m. in New York... not sure what time it is where you are, but I can't call anyone until tommorrow, when I get here.

But I will, and hopefully get you an answer.

The RMX is built better than the MK2, which was built better than the MK1.

Gosh! I'm so sorry, it's around 12 in the noon here :) take ur time and let me know steve. Really appreciate ur response. You set a good example to customer relationship :)

Gosh! I'm so sorry, it's around 12 in the noon here :) take ur time and let me know steve. Really appreciate ur response. You set a good example to customer relationship :)

Steve,

Can you forward any information you obtain to me as well. I gotta get my hands on one of these before the last week in April. Herc's people say it's already in production and was shipped to stores already. I find this very hard to believe since I have been all over the web searching. Let me know at jalexander@swwc.com.

Much Respect to you.

Hollywood

Hollywood:

Email sent with everything I know, as of now


Shaun:

My "boss" in New York tells me there is no distrubution for our products in India, and investigating further, to give you a recommendation.

Aw steve :( thats bad. But any way, i'm hopeful tat ur recommendation should work. I'll be very thankful to you :)

Btw, if ultimately u find that there's no distributor or agency in india that can cater to my needs, can u pls find out if it can be shipped to me? I am very worried about the shipping procedures, lest the console gets damaged, and can u pls quote the price including the shipping charges to chennai, india? Very sorry for the trouble, but i have no one else to turn to.

Steve : Btw, if ultimately u find that there's no distributor or agency in india that can cater to my needs, can u pls find out if it can be shipped to me? I am very worried about the shipping procedures, lest the console gets damaged, and can u pls quote the price including the shipping charges to chennai, india? Very sorry for the trouble, but i have no one else to turn to.

Steve can I have that info as well
djq777@gmail.com

Shaun:

Sorry, no word yet, but I'm trying.


qmel:

Welcome to ODJT. Are you located in the U.S.?

Steve check his my space hes from Rhode Island. Qmel welcome to ODJT how did you find us?

Email sent...

I'm working on a better answer, so I apologize for the delay.

Steve can you please send more info via PM. Thanks!!!

just up late the other night, I'm definitely glad I found the site

I'm still eagerly waitin ur reply steve. Hope i get an answer soon :)

OK guys and girls - years ago I was using OTS which I liked - $hit it was about eight years ago :sqeek:.

Now I have gone back to CD and using a PC or Mac Book to find and play a song fast (using iTunes)

I'd really like to go back to using a computer prog (Rick!) and am wondering if I can transfer my iPod and Mac Mini music to any (Rick!) program.

Here we go.Price in Europe is 319Euros!

Hey Davy!

Your post might be better as a new thread, but since it's been up a couple days and Rick hasn't responded, I'll give it a shot, based on what I know about computer D.J.ing (which I'm sure is less than Rick).

If your files are .mp3 or .wav, you will be able to use them in any D.J. application, in either a Windows or Mac machine. If you've encoded using itunes-specific file-formats, your choices may be more limited. The ones that are most difficult to use, overall, are songs purchased from itunes. This really sucks and sends a poor message, IMO, when you can "steal" music and actually play it, while some songs you buy you can't play(!?)

OK guys and girls - years ago I was using OTS which I liked - it was about eight years ago :sqeek:.

Now I have gone back to CD and using a PC or Mac Book to find and play a song fast (using iTunes)

I'd really like to go back to using a computer prog (Rick!) and am wondering if I can transfer my iPod and Mac Mini music to any (Rick!) program.

Sorry Davy, musta missed one -- all that religion talk gets me fired up :sqlaugh:


Steve is correct, you can't go wrong with MP3 or WAV format.

iTunes and WMA files are a PITA. You can either burn them to an audio CD and re-rip them into one of the desired formats, or use a conversion program to do it for you. Either will get you a bit of loss, but still not too bad.

Do a search for iTunes to MP3, and you will find lots of programs out there -- the one I usually use for tests, is called Switch Sound Converter, and works pretty well ( http://www.nch.com ). It's a freebie, but if you want to do all formats, you'll need to pony up the $19 or so.

I've been getting most of my online tunes from Amazon of late. Excellent quality in MP3 format, with album art, etc. Only downside, is they are in VBR format (Variable Bit Rate). Usually no big deal, and sound a bit better, but VBR's don't seek as quickly as CBR. If yer doing scratching type stuff, you would most likely want CBR, but for normal wedding/party stuff, the VBRs work just dandy :)

:sqlaugh:Bought the RMX online and is in the mail. Can't wait to get my itchy fingers all over this thing!!!! Steve your You-Tube vids helped me choose the RMX over the MK2 thanks a ton!!!

I asked steve a question about the RMX that I thought I should share with the rest of the forum. FYI I will post some pics once mine arrives a little unboxing, set up and use review as well.
Re: RMX Boxed contents
What is included with the RMX?
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Perfect timing, as my "production unit" RMX arrived last week. (Prototypes come without accesories). The RMX ships with a carrying bag, a USB cable, a cd with the drivers and the Virtual D.J. LE software on it (both PC and Mac), and a manual for the RMX.

Thanks for the compliments, and enjoy your RMX!

Steve

About the problem everyone has been having has anyone tried doing a new install using the drivers out on the herc site? I just got mine today and have not set it up yet(at work my start to feel ill) But my thoughts where to use the drivers posted to the site first as a clean install. Any thoughts comments?

Got my unit Friday night. Prior to installing anything I uninstalled my full version of VDJ. I then ran the driver set I found on the Herc Web site instead of what was on the disk. I then installed the VDJ LE version off the disk and started up the app. Every thing ran perfect. I then reinstalled my full version of VDJ. Once I completed these I reran my BPM and TAG search just to do a refresh of my DB and I have been a MIDI fool all weekend. I love this device for what I paid for it. Reading other forums the Item seemed to have lag issues with those users but i have a pretty beefy machine and nothing else runs on this box. I saw no issues with performance or response time from the device it's self. one thing I did notice was the gain seemed to keep resetting its self. is that part of the VDJ app to reset gain on load of a new track? besides that I loved the RMX and suggest to anyone buying that the full version of VDJ is the way to go with this unit.

one thing I did notice was the gain seemed to keep resetting its self. is that part of the VDJ app to reset gain on load of a new track? besides that I loved the RMX and suggest to anyone buying that the full version of VDJ is the way to go with this unit.

Congrats!

Although I don't use VDJ I do know that the gain setting can be set to reset on load of a new track or it can be set to maintain the gain..... (i never worry about this with OtsAV)

got home and dug through the settings and customized it to a tee now I have absolutly no reason to complain unless... "my mom throws away my best porno mag".... haha just a happy guy wtih the unit.:sqlaugh:

Steve, please give me a shout if you know of anyone showing the RMX in the Austin, TX, area. I plan on using this with Mixxx in Linux, and someone from Hercules helped the Mixxx developers get them both working correctly.

Thanks!

If I hear anything, I will.

I doubt they'll send me to Texas, so it probably won't be me.

I'm not familiar with Mixxx software.

If I hear anything, I will.

I doubt they'll send me to Texas, so it probably won't be me.

Heh, you'd be alright not coming out until later this year. I read you were in Las Vegas and probably dealt with the heat there, but it's creeping up towards the 100s in Austin. :sqeek: I do want to hook this up to a Linux box and see just how well RMX and Mixxx work together for an old electronica dj.

I'm not familiar with Mixxx software.

Hate to admit it, but I didn't know anything about Hercules' dj consoles until I began looking for dj apps in Linux. Mixxx (http://www.mixxx.org/) so far has been the best one in Linux although it doesn't have as many features as VDJ. Francois at Hercules helped out the project (http://www.mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/hercules_pc_dj_console) by, I'm guessing, providing them with a demo unit so they could get Mixxx working with RMX. Everything I've seen on YouTube about Hercules has been pretty encouraging.

Thanks!

King I will have to check out mixx only reason i have been running xp is for the reason I didnt know of a prg that ran on unix you know if it is compatibale with ubuntu?

you know if it is compatibale with ubuntu?

Oh yes, it is. 1.6.0beta2 should already be in the repositories and you can get a .deb package for 1.6.0beta3 from their download site (http://www.mixxx.org/download.php). :sqcool:

Unfortunately, they don't have Linux binary packages for other distros, so other distros have to settle for the older 1.5.0 (like Fedora) or compile from source (tried several times, failed miserably). :sqconfused:

Enjoy!

By the way, I contacted Guitar Center and they are ordering this for me. They're going to let me look it over in their store before I buy, but all of the reviews so far have been pretty positive.