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Papa Deuce 10-22-2006, 02:13 AM I don't know what made me say this today to a potential client, but I actually said that I think most DJs have big egos.... It wasn't a slam, and I think the customer knew what I meant.
But I think we do. Agree?
Mr. K 10-22-2006, 02:37 AM Not too long ago, I would have said YES.
A certain personality trait is needed to be a DJ. A DJ has a certain responsibility that, say, the girl who only has to pour water and pick up plates doesn't. A DJ HAS to have confidence, and a DJ has to be successful in providing a session of entertainment; if he/she isn't, then he/she cannot be a DJ for very long. With success comes even more confidence. Yes, many DJs have big egos, but not all know how to contain them.
DJ A could have a big ego, and get upset when somebody is critical, and argue that this somebody is wrong.
DJ B could have a big ego and, therefore, work even harder to make sure he doesn't receive the same criticism again.
DJ C could have a big ego and be a little of both A and B.
DJ D could have a big ego and live a fruitful life on djchat. :p
Papa Deuce 10-22-2006, 02:50 AM DJ D could have a big ego and live a fruitful life on djchat. :p
I'm guessing you have been banned there! :sqlaugh:
Jon Tuck 10-22-2006, 02:51 AM Egos dont always allow you to answer phone calls.
Mr. K 10-22-2006, 02:59 AM I'm guessing you have been banned there! :sqlaugh:
No, only questions that require absolutely honest consideration. :(
Mr. K 10-22-2006, 02:59 AM Egos dont always allow you to answer phone calls.
Bad hearing doesn't help, either. :p
Papa Deuce 10-22-2006, 03:04 AM Egos dont always allow you to answer phone calls.
ack.... you called when I stepped away, I guess.
Fred Stewart 10-22-2006, 03:11 AM An ego is a necessary evil in the biz of entertaining.
I distain egos, my own included. :D
But honestly, we need a certain amount of ego to stand before crowds of strangers and perform. The ego is a good thing.
It can be an undesireable thing if not kept in check.
Briar 10-22-2006, 03:31 AM Yes but "some" DJs have an ego so large that it has turned them inside out forcing their anus to cover their entire body making them an :c1:
You get the point.
Never, ever let your clients see you ego out of control
Mr. K 10-22-2006, 03:37 AM I have such a big ego...that when somebody yells, "You suck," I laugh because I know that HE/SHE/IT SUCKS!
And I make fun of myself because my ego is so big that, even when others say NAY, I know that I'm really the best anecdote-maker around. And I make fun of myself because I know that absolutely nothing bad about me is true.
:p
And I used Canadianisations because I am so righteous. And Canadian English is the TRUE language of Royalty.
:tongue3:
DJ Cam 10-22-2006, 05:06 AM My ego had a big boost this weekend. I vibrated light bulbs out of the ceiling with my new Turbosound sub. I can't wait to use two!
As far as the actual ego goes.
There are many DJ's out there that I'm sure do a better job than me, unfortunally I never hear about them. I only hear about the bad ones.
That being said I hope no one has heard about me.
jfactor1 10-22-2006, 06:29 AM There are many DJ's out there that I'm sure do a better job than me, unfortunally I never hear about them. I only hear about the bad ones.
That, Ladies & Gentlemen, is the quote of the week. :walkman:
DJ Dan 10-22-2006, 06:57 AM DJs and egos go together like peanut butter and jelly.
Any one in the public eye (performers, politicians, even priests) need some kind of ego just to stand in front of a crowd. Doctors, firefighters, police officers, & EMT need to have bigger ego than most. If only not to second guess their spur of the moment decisions.
The point is: Do you let that ego overtake your personality? Me, I don't. I'm a low flier anyhow, I try not to let things get me too pumped in either direction. We all have great, good, okay, bad, and horrible nights. Hopefully the great nights out weight the rest.
What makes a good DJ is, not letting his ego get in the way of figuring out why the horrible, and bad nights were crappy. "They just wouldn't dance" or the B&G made me play a horrible song isn't a good excuse, IMO.
Jeff Romard 10-22-2006, 09:14 AM Its hard not to get an ego when you are good at what you do. If you keep the ego in check it can be of great assistance. I am a naturally shy person but when I walk in to a venue the DJ comes out. I dont exist between start and finish on event nights the character does. At closing time I pack the ego in the wire box and save it for the next night
To awnser the question yup for sure most DJs have big egos the ones that dont dont last a long time
thatmusicguy 10-22-2006, 01:31 PM Then there are Dj's with such big ego's that they need to put out a "press release" when they change gear, so that all of us common folk can be enlightened.....
Please!
(I am trying to be kind....)
Seriously...I think in this business you have to have some sort of ego...you are selling yourself. I think though when you are ..say...here....commiserating with your peers, the ego needs to go in the back pocket.
We aren't competing...just commiserating
and maybe that's why I like it here.......
Balanced Line 10-22-2006, 03:21 PM It was always a curiosity. How could this business could have conventions? It was especially perplexing to find they were held indoors. All those enormous room filling egos in one modestly sized, finite space. Just didn’t think it was possible.
Jeff Romard 10-22-2006, 03:51 PM Then there are Dj's with such big ego's that they need to put out a "press release" when they change gear, so that all of us common folk can be enlightened.....
LMAO No matter who you are thats funny right there
nextgen1 10-22-2006, 04:52 PM DJs and egos go together like peanut butter and jelly.
Any one in the public eye (performers, politicians, even priests) need some kind of ego just to stand in front of a crowd. Doctors, firefighters, police officers, & EMT need to have bigger ego than most. If only not to second guess their spur of the moment decisions.
The point is: Do you let that ego overtake your personality? Me, I don't. I'm a low flier anyhow, I try not to let things get me too pumped in either direction. We all have great, good, okay, bad, and horrible nights. Hopefully the great nights out weight the rest.
What makes a good DJ is, not letting his ego get in the way of figuring out why the horrible, and bad nights were crappy. "They just wouldn't dance" or the B&G made me play a horrible song isn't a good excuse, IMO.
Hmm this scares me. I was and EMT for 7 years and now I'm a DJ LOL go figure.
DJ Dan 10-22-2006, 05:09 PM Hmm this scares me. I was and EMT for 7 years and now I'm a DJ LOL go figure.
Having been an EMT for 7 years does it prove true? I was a voluteer fire fighter for a little bit, I never met a firefighter or EMT without an ego. Not that it's a bad thing.
nextgen1 10-22-2006, 06:40 PM Hmm I'm sure I do have an ego. I'm and extrovert. The article I have cut and pasted here explains everything.
What makes an extravert extraverted?
Extraverts find social situations more rewarding than introverts, not because they are more sociable, but because they are more sensitive to the rewards inherent in most situations, finds a recent study.
The article, by Richard E. Lucas, PhD, Ed Diener, PhD, and colleagues of the University of Illinois at Urbana* Champaign, appeared in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology (Vol. 79, No. 3).
Arguing that sociability is a narrower construct than extraversion and not the core of the trait, the researchers conducted three studies on a total of 743 U.S. college students to test how extraversion and reward sensitivity are linked. They created a Social Interaction Scale to assess whether people base their enjoyment of situations primarily on the extent to which the situations provide opportunities for social interaction. The study also examined three other facets of extraversion: affiliation, defined as enjoying and valuing close interpersonal bonds; ascendance, which reflects enjoying leadership roles and assertiveness; and venturesome, the degree to which individuals seek out and enjoy exciting, stimulating situations.
The researchers found that, although sociability--individual differences in enjoying social activities and preferring being with others over being alone--is an important part of extraversion, it may actually be a by-product of reward sensitivity rather than a core feature of extraversion.
The authors also point to prior research that shows extraverts tend to feel more pleasant affect even when they are alone.
"Both extraverts and introverts benefit from social interaction," said the authors. "However, extraverted participants did not spend any more time in social situations than introverted participants, but reported more pleasant affect even when alone, both indicating that some additional factor had to be accounting for their greater reported happiness."
By examining the structure of the relationship of aspects of extraversion and pleasant affect, the authors found that extraverts may be drawn to social situations for rewards such as warmth, affection and close emotional bonds, and, therefore, should be more likely than introverts to engage in rewarding social and nonsocial situations, but not in less rewarding social situations.
The researchers followed up these studies with another involving more than 6,000 college students from 39 other countries. They found cross-cultural support for their contention that sensitivity to rewards forms the core of extraversion. In analyzing the results, the researchers argued that social activity may serve different functions in different cultures.
--D. SMITH
I think in general most DJ's are extroverts.
Jon Tuck 10-22-2006, 08:01 PM Then there are Dj's with such big ego's that they need to put out a "press release" when they change gear, so that all of us common folk can be enlightened.....
Please!
(I am trying to be kind....)
Seriously...I think in this business you have to have some sort of ego...you are selling yourself. I think though when you are ..say...here....commiserating with your peers, the ego needs to go in the back pocket.
We aren't competing...just commiserating
and maybe that's why I like it here.......
In support and then felt as though I got bilked!!!
Mr. K 10-22-2006, 11:06 PM In support and then felt as though I got bilked!!!
Elaborate?
thatmusicguy 10-23-2006, 12:04 AM Vinyl.....this all comes from the "Bose gets me business" thread that was started by that DJ over on DJ Chat. He took a lot of heat from the naysayers...Despite that he was adamant that the Bose did get him business (although we all agreed that you had to back it up once you got the business). Anyway, many including this poster stood up and supported what this person said; that in fact Bose could get bookings.....
Al of a sudden there is a post; the DJ states he got rid of the sytem he has been vocal about...and other than Cap: the most vocal about and is now running a pair of 10 grand JBL VP's...and can't or won't state why the sudden change.....
Anyway the post is there (titled: "Boseless")
In retrospect, I shouldn't have wasted my time responding to that post.....
Travis B 10-24-2006, 01:25 AM jeff, i'm with you on your statement. You get a thanks for that. Still, what DJ wants to be toating around a googleplex server just to house their music in wav format. NOT ME!
DJ Dan 10-24-2006, 04:33 PM Thread Split:
PAS & Digital media discussion is now here:
http://www.ourdjtalk.com/showthread.php/bose_pas_plus_digital_media-1282.html?t=1282
Mr. K 10-24-2006, 07:41 PM Just for the RECORD, MY post is not REALLY the ACTUAL one that sent this thread off track.
Chuck The DJ 10-25-2006, 04:26 AM Ego and The DJ... next great sitcom
I don't have any ego,, I'm just so far above you all that you have to look up to see my feet.. ;)
Balanced Line 10-25-2006, 04:36 AM Get out the wash rag they're dirty.
djxpress 10-25-2006, 04:44 AM I think what needs to be explained is the difference between arrogance and confidence! I am a very confident DJ. I am very good at what I do. I can say that knowing that my actions speaks for me. Am I the best; heck no! I can only speak for myself and what I bring to the table.
Now arrogance will say, for example, that I am the greatest DJ on these boards and no one can compare nor compete with me- I am DJ royality and you all bow when I enter these forums.
With that being said, Whether you bring confidence or arrogance, I think that a DJ must display one. If not, you are just a Ipod...thx
chaos 10-25-2006, 05:36 AM I think most DJ's have ego's. You have to have one to survive in this industry. Keeping it in check is what seperates the good from the bad. When we attended the DJ Expo in AC a few years back, you could spot the guys with inflated egos from a mile away - They were either dressed in Monkey Suits or Satin Jackets, surrounded by an entourage of wanna-be's.
As for me, at times I have a HUGE ego, and at others I'm quite reserved (OK, shy). I also have a tendancy voice my thoughts and opinions totally unfiltered. It makes me what I am.
Papa Deuce 10-26-2006, 03:48 AM Excitement abounds... this is a top 5 viewed thread. :sqwink:
jtnichol 10-26-2006, 04:05 AM With clients I say,
"I wouldn't say I have a big ego, but I would say I have high confidence that I'm perfect for the job"
And I only say that if I feel I am the best for the job. Its okay to want the job because you know it will be a slam dunk for all involved.
Papa Deuce 02-07-2007, 04:11 AM This thread came to mind..... :sqerr: :rofl:
DjDennis 02-07-2007, 09:50 AM I dont think i'll answer this one....
eklondon 02-07-2007, 11:01 AM Hence the Name BIG AL = BIG EGO = (We won't go there)
Request Line Productions 02-07-2007, 02:17 PM I don't know what made me say this today to a potential client, but I actually said that I think most DJs have big egos.... It wasn't a slam, and I think the customer knew what I meant.
But I think we do. Agree?
Disagree.
I would have to say that I'm about the most modest person I know. Nothing I do is driven by ego. I've always given more than I get. I feed off of doing things well and helping others.
I do have confidence.
The only reference to other DJs I make to my clients is what they do and what I don't do. (IE interactive games etc.)
Work is like sex. If you want to get more of it, be good at it.
Bryan Durio 02-07-2007, 03:02 PM Work is like sex. If you want to get more of it, be good at it.
Now THAT has to be the Quote of the Century! I love it!!
Bryan Durio 02-07-2007, 03:04 PM I also think people are confusing ego with confidence. It doesn't take a big ego to get in front of a crowd, but it does take confidence in one's abilities.
the dogman 02-07-2007, 03:23 PM Call it ego or confidence, you need to have it when talking with potential clients. It gives them a sense that you can do what you say. When ever I get ready for the next event there is a line that always comes back to me
"Your only as good as your last event" I try to be better than that.
kwikdraw 02-07-2007, 03:36 PM I tend to think that some DJs make up for a lack of confidedence by being egotistical and boisterous. Most really talented jocks (in my experience) have a kind of 'calm confidence' - they know they are good at what they do and don' t have to constantly feed their own ego.
From childhood, I was always taught that you never make yourself look good by putting down someone else.
Mark Beecher 02-07-2007, 04:36 PM My competition feeds my ego :sqwink:
Scott Hanna 02-07-2007, 04:48 PM I think some people say ego when they really mean confident.
to me, ego has a negative conotaion and confidence is positive.
When someon has a big ego, they think they are more important than others. It's what they think that's important...not what others think.
When someone is very confident, they know what they can do and what they can't. They are not afraid to ask questions and let others know what they don't know.
I would like to think i am confident and don't have a big ego.
JoeChartreuse 02-07-2007, 09:37 PM I used to be arrogant- Now I'm just sure....
Actually my ego is show dependant. When the show goes great, I am unable to get my head through the door. If, however I have an off night ( extremely rare, because I'm magnificent :sqcool: ), I feel like I could walk UNDER the door.
Between shows I don't notice much in the way of egotistical behavior one way or another...
Kirby Ball 02-07-2007, 09:43 PM Having an ego isn't such a bad thing, it's when we become "egocentric" we move to another whole level.
Just my opinion..... :D
Scott Hanna 02-07-2007, 09:46 PM Having an ego isn't such a bad thing, it's when we become "egocentric" we move to another whole level.
Just my opinion..... :D
agreed!
No doubt we all have some ego....the question is what level.
DJ Gray 02-07-2007, 09:47 PM I don't know if any of us would be in this business if we didn't have some form of Ego/Confidence......right..??
Steve Miller 02-07-2007, 09:51 PM I agree with Scott here, Personally I don't feel I have an ego or that I am full of myself and I don't think anyone that is a guest at a function I do feels that way. Am I confident in what I do? absolutely. Do I think I am special and am the only one that can do the job I do? not hardly!
My feelings don't get hurt when a potential client turns down my offer and I don't chase them around trying to find out why they went with someone else's service. That is EGO!
I don't try to tell clients how to have a good time! That is EGO!
I don't try to tell other DJ's what they should be doing! That is EGO!
I don't try to tell other's what to charge! That is EGO!
I don't say that a DJ who got the job I didn't sucks! That is EGO!
I do what I do, I charge what I charge, I know I can give my clients what they pay for! And that is confidence!
GoodKnightDJ 02-07-2007, 09:56 PM Hmmmmm, do I have a big ego?
I have confidence. I have stage presence. I try to listen more than talk. I try not to dominate the show because it is not mine to dominate. I try not to be wise in my own eyes (a legend in my own mind).
Yes, I am an extrovert but I try not to let my ego take over.
I used to have a business partner that was Mr. Ego. Papa, I think you met him in AC. This guy would tell you about all the things he's done and how great he is. He would talk about all the clubs he worked in and how he did a fantastic job at each.
99.99999% of it was BS.
Don't get me wrong, he is a good DJ. He just needs to reel in the ego and shut up for a while. (and stop drinking, and stop breaking the law, and stop ...)
Scott Hanna 02-07-2007, 10:33 PM .
I used to have a business partner that was Mr. Ego. Papa, I think you met him in AC. This guy would tell you about all the things he's done and how great he is. He would talk about all the clubs he worked in and how he did a fantastic job at each.
99.99999% of it was BS.
he didnt go by the name cesar, did he?:sqwink:
kwikdraw 02-08-2007, 01:05 AM I agree with Scott here, Personally I don't feel I have an ego or that I am full of myself and I don't think anyone that is a guest at a function I do feels that way. Am I confident in what I do? absolutely. Do I think I am special and am the only one that can do the job I do? not hardly!
My feelings don't get hurt when a potential client turns down my offer and I don't chase them around trying to find out why they went with someone else's service. That is EGO!
I don't try to tell clients how to have a good time! That is EGO!
I don't try to tell other DJ's what they should be doing! That is EGO!
I don't try to tell other's what to charge! That is EGO!
I don't say that a DJ who got the job I didn't sucks! That is EGO!
I do what I do, I charge what I charge, I know I can give my clients what they pay for! And that is confidence!
Amen, brother!
patrickrlewis 02-08-2007, 02:19 AM Absolutely you have to have a big ego. It has to come across in every sales call you do and every visit you make anywhere. You have to let every potential client, venue and vendor know that if you dont hire / recommend me, you will be making the biggest mistake of your life. That is the only way to get the business.
Bryan Durio 02-08-2007, 02:36 AM Hmmm... Maybe that's my problem. I'm not full of myself.
jfactor1 02-08-2007, 02:47 AM I don't have a big ego, but I'm confident that I can give every couple that chooses my service will receive the kind of entertainment they've envisioned.
On the mic I can be bigger than life. Outgoing, personable, & very friendly. :)
Off the mic, I'm actually pretty shy and don't like being in situations where I don't know anyone. :(
DjJungle 02-08-2007, 03:08 AM I'm with JFactor on this one. I have an ego just like anyone else. I try to keep it to a minimum, but at times it flies freely.
Behind my mixer I'm the guy who has to make it work and get the job done.
When I'm not behind the mixer I'm me.
We're not rock stars people! Rock stars play their own music!
Jeff Romard 02-08-2007, 09:17 AM I don't have a big ego, but I'm confident that I can give every couple that chooses my service will receive the kind of entertainment they've envisioned.
On the mic I can be bigger than life. Outgoing, personable, & very friendly. :)
Off the mic, I'm actually pretty shy and don't like being in situations where I don't know anyone. :(
We have a lot in common Jay
I dont call it ego I call it the character. My DJ persona is more a character I create. The trick is to keep the character on a short chain. It helps me with crowds because although I know I have the confidence to make the show special I am inherently shy
Kirby Ball 02-08-2007, 03:37 PM We have a lot in common Jay
I dont call it ego I call it the character. My DJ persona is more a character I create. The trick is to keep the character on a short chain. It helps me with crowds because although I know I have the confidence to make the show special I am inherently shy
Jeff:
Excellent point.."the character"....:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Yup, when I bartended there was "Kirby the Bartender" while I was on duty and "on stage" so to speak. I considered it kind of a performance and when I left the bar, I just became myself...
Pretty much the same when I'm DJing an event....
kellys 02-10-2007, 02:07 AM I believe that you need to be confident and comfortable being in front of people. I also believe that it does translate into an ego, but that doesn't have to be a bad thing. It only becomes bad when your ego gets in the way of good judgement.
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