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Running into an Old Boss

eklondon
10-23-2006, 02:32 PM
Hopefully you guys can understand what I'm trying to type

Saturday's Event (Wedding) Setup time 12noon
Help at Lampligter In (5 other Weddings are there)

I am in the Crytal Ballroom South (Crystall Ballroom get divided by a Sound Wall when they can fit 2 Events in One Room),

I noticed on the Crystall Ballroom North Doors the Sign Tremblay / Reed Wedding, Tremblay?? I know of a Tremblay.

Well, I peek my head in and there he is... My Old Boss, You guys may think, whatever he's just an old Boss, Well Mr Tremblay Was the Owner of Garry Robertson Music, which bacl in the day was the Biggest Multi op in Canada.
27 Cities & average 20 DJs per City (London had 27 DJs).

I worked for Mr Tremblay since I was 16 years Old, Not only was I one of his DJs, I was the Office Manager, I also was the Matering Tech for Great Rock Music (a CD Compilation Company started same time as ERG), He owned Both Companys. Needless to Say When I left Garry Robertson Music, I was treated as a Trator. The Tremblay Faimly at that point hated me.

Back to Sat. It's his Daughters Wedding, I sat in my car having a smoke thinking to myself, do I go and say Congrats? or do I just Leave it alone and hoope he doesn't see me. I didn't want to make his Daughters Wedding Uncofortable for him as the Two of us Did not Get along.

What would you do...

Would you approach?
Would you Ignore?

djrox
10-23-2006, 02:49 PM
What would you do...

First, I'd stop smoking, that stuff'll kill ya and it makes you smell like an ashtray.:nono:

Second, I'd get a Bill Clinton Mask, put it on and streak through the room, with a box of cigars, during the father daughter dance.:eek:

Seriously, If you believe your presence would make him or his family uncomfortable, avoiding the situation would be the right thing to do.

eklondon
10-23-2006, 03:04 PM
That was my decision, Avoid.

During Sound Check, I had the Hall manager come over and Complain about he Noise, I advised that manager it was just a sound check. He asked that
I keep the noise down durring the party as he has a very important Client in the next room. (Thought to myself, what my clients aren't important)

Come back & start the Intros, Upbeat Songs Funny Intros, Lots of MIC work, In the Middle of my Intors working the MIC, the manager comes to me and tells me to turn it down. I tell him straight out to leave me alone.

Later in the night Dinner & speeches are done prior to the other room,
I take the curtosy to wait 10min while the other hall finishes speeches to
start the Formal Dances. After my formal Dances we kick it up a notch & start the Open Dancing part of the Night, Again the Manager comes over and "Tells" me to turn it down so the other hall can Do their Formal Dances.
So out of curtosy, I turn the Bass down a Bit.

So, Mr Tremblay decides to come over to see who the DJ is, well he wasn't Impress to see me. Got a lot of negitive comments for this guy 4 times throughout the Night, I went to another manager & advised what was going on. I asked this manager to keep Me Tremblay from comming over to my Party. He told me he wasn't about to approach this guy as it was a very Important Client. This is when I spoke out to the Venue, and told them Off!
I ripped these guys a whole new A$$ Hole. This Venue is no longer Impressed with me.

I will be writing a Formal Letter to the Venue about the Issues I had with the Management.

I was soo pissed at this time that the Venue Team wouldn't do anything.
For pete's sake this was Mr Tremblay's Daughters Wedding, why did he keep
comming over to may party to try and piss me off, why wasn't he enjoying his daughter's wedding?

Just Ranting, thanks for Listening.

eklondon
10-23-2006, 04:13 PM
I need help with my Complant Letter

djrox
10-23-2006, 04:14 PM
What do you expect to acheive with the letter? What is teh true purpose of generating any correspondence with the venue?

eklondon
10-23-2006, 04:18 PM
I would like the Venue Management to Treat Functions the Same,

I spoke to the DJ from the other Wedding afterwards, at no point did the staff
ask him to turn down the Music.

I really think that; Not just me, but my clients had to suffer because of the preferential (sp?) treatment.

djrox
10-23-2006, 04:36 PM
You are likely to gain NO success with the venue by sending an impersonal letter. IF it gets to the correct individual, and IF they even read it, you may be viewed as a complaining, annoying individual.

If you deem this situation one serious enough to pursue, I'd suggest you schedule a meeting with the venue's general manager or owner, not the individual you have an isue with. If they are one in the same, you are SOL. (Sh1T outta Luck)

We've all run into individuals that we find difficult to work with. Welcome to the human race. You best bet is to cut your losses and give the situation no further attention.

Better luck next time.

Balanced Line
10-23-2006, 07:15 PM
The first thing that comes to mind in your conversation with the venue manager would be to reply that our client too is very important. Since none of us were there we have to rely on your account. Attempt to be ruthlessly objective. Did you hear their bass thumping through? Were you louder than them? Did you try to compare the volume by standing at the respective entrance doors? On the other hand, was the volume sufficient to satisfy your guests? Did they ask it to be louder? Were they [your clients] warned they would have to curtail volume levels? Were they [the venue] really being unfair to your client?

My guess is that Rox is right and that you are fighting an uphill battle. Before you send or even sit down to write it determine what you believe the best outcome would be. If you achieve this end is the effort worth the result? If you are sure you are right, go ahead and fight the good fight. Remember this isn’t about you, it is about fairness to “our” [the venue and your] customer. In the final analysis if your client did not feel put upon by these frequent requests for volume adjustment it seems your argument is a non starter.

The one place I’d adjust Rox’s advice is to use a Rumsfeld mask. If they catch you, explain you aren’t responsible. It is something he has claimed recently so everyone will assume you are indeed he and let you go.

Best of luck ek and sorry for your troubles.

GoodKnightDJ
10-23-2006, 07:37 PM
What about your client? Were they happy with the venue's treatment? Did you bring up the situation to them? Remember. their guests are their friends and all very likely prospective clients to that venue. If they talk negatively about the venue to their friends, what is the likelyhood that that friend will book there? Zippo! So, if your clients complain to the venue management about how they and you were treated, there is a possibility that something will happen.

Additionally, put the venue on your black list. If you have prospective clients considering booking there or have booked there, tell them that you don't play there and why. Word will get back to the venue if people start canceling bookings there so that you will be there DJ.

A good example is my party this past Saturday. The venue coordinator still has yet to return any of my phone calls or e-mails. She left early Saturday and the bar staff was not informed that they were to be there till 1:00 AM and tried to close early. My partner saw them starting to take the bar down and informed the B&G; that changed when the bride showed them the contract. I communicated what happened with me to the B&G and they are taking it to the management.

Kirby Ball
10-23-2006, 07:50 PM
DROX, Balanced Line & Goodknight all gave good solid advice. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

If you feel that you need to write the letter, do it....then shred or burn it!

Kirby

Chuck The DJ
10-23-2006, 10:54 PM
If you contact the venue that wont help... as said they will just put you in their "don't hire this DJ" book..

Unless your client bitched to you and asked for money back, (I would light up a fattie,,, you said you smoked right?) I would let it go.

It can go farther than just this venue, if the manager leaves and goes to another place,,, or when they get together and have their venue managers beer night and they talk about you, it won't be good.

I would be bothered by this also, but I know that the best thing to do is relax and let it go... pick your fights, like next time you see DROX, slap him for fun. :)

djrox
10-24-2006, 03:38 AM
Aw, you mess the bull you gonna get the horns, biotch! ANd I am pure BULL!