DougF
03-29-2008, 10:41 AM
This is some info you may want to check for yourself especially if you have driver problems with your Creative products. This is an eye opener & it's from Creative's own forums.
Creative Goes After Driver Modder
http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/08/03/29/046201.shtml
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&thread.id=116332&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
Dave Winsor
03-29-2008, 02:08 PM
Hi Doug,
Thanks for the input. If anyone has a chance, and uses these types of sound cards, try the Turtle Beach USB soundcard.
It's very affordable, small and sounds great.
Best,
Dave
DougF
03-29-2008, 02:24 PM
I use Turtle Beach myself after the fiasco I had trying to get an Audigy Card to work. Come to find out there was an issue with the chipset I had, they knew about it, but buried that info deep inside the manual in fine print and no reference at all on the website. So you had to buy the card, open everything up before you could go looking for the info, but only AFTER you had problems with the install.
After all that crap I WILL NEVER ever use Creative Products.
Jeff Romard
03-29-2008, 02:38 PM
The people on the creative forum are all bent out of joint at them for not supplying drivers yet none of them mention that microslop built the OS with no concern for older hardware
Another good reason not to upgrade to vista
Jon Tuck
03-29-2008, 04:26 PM
I have a creative sitting in my junk pile as I could never figure how to make it work perhaps this is why. Would anyone be able to tell my mental midget Bum if I will need a sound card add on when using my HD2500 as controller when using it with Rockit. Im leaving my self open here. Slam away lol. Or help a big dummy.
thatmusicguy
03-29-2008, 04:56 PM
I just bought a Creative Labs Xfi Notebook card to use (It's an Xpress card).....crossing my fingers.......
Jon Tuck
03-29-2008, 04:58 PM
I think Maestro has that one with much success so far. Mine was the old box unit.
SoftJock Rick
03-29-2008, 05:43 PM
Before anybody goes blaming anybody, take a listen...
When MS designed Vista, a lot was done for security, and the ability to recover from bad programs. The audio stack was moved out of Kernel (the heart of the OS), into the user area, which is abstracted from the Kernel.
A lot of audio software has problems with that, because they were using API calls that were expecting Kernel action.
It's gonna take a few years for the hardware makers to redo their drivers properly, to deal with those changes.
Creative has actually taken the lead in developing new driver models, so I'm not surprised by how they are handling it -- they have to set a standard...
Papa Deuce
03-29-2008, 06:23 PM
I think Rick gets a stipend from MS..... :sqerr:
:sqlaugh:
DougF
03-29-2008, 07:07 PM
I think Rick gets a stipend from MS..... :sqerr:
:sqlaugh:
ya think....! :sqwink:
DjDennis
03-30-2008, 10:42 AM
thats why I have mine soundblaster live working fully with winxp
kayleigh
04-01-2008, 02:28 AM
I seem to recall that it took a year or two for video drivers to catch up & stabilize in WinXP. If sound driver APIs were pulled from the Vista kernel area, it would take time for stable drivers to be developed.
It probably would have been better (PR-wise) for Creative to address this issue in a less public manner, but I can understand their concern about non-official drivers being distributed from a forum they provide. I haven't studied their EULA lately, but it's pretty standard to include a section that says reverse engineering & modification of files is not allowed.