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Copyright crackdown in Delaware.

Fred Stewart
04-09-2008, 11:43 PM
Newark nightspot sued for royalties by music giant. (http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080409/NEWS/804090365) Click to review story and photos.

By SEAN O'SULLIVAN • The News Journal • April 9, 2008

WILMINGTON -- A national music industry group has filed a federal lawsuit against a Newark restaurant for having live bands and karaoke nights featuring copyrighted music without paying the proper licensing fees.

The federal civil action by the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers, on behalf of copyright owners, against Matilda's on South College Avenue near the University of Delaware's Bob Carpenter Center comes less than six months after a similar lawsuit was filed against the Rusty Rudder in Dewey Beach.

That lawsuit, filed by Broadcast Music Inc., was resolved late last year in an undisclosed settlement between the music giant and the bar owners.

The legal action against Matilda's, an Australian-themed bar and grill, is part of a coordinated national campaign by ASCAP to crack down on businesses that fail to get the proper license despite repeated warnings.

Matilda's owner Doug Smith said the suit caught him by surprise and he is hoping to quickly resolve it.

He said he recently bought the restaurant from Lee Buzalek, who was named in the lawsuit, and was unaware of what happened or the previous ownership's conversations with ASCAP.

Smith initially said he planned to pay whatever he had to pay and continue the effort to have live music there. He later reversed course after talking to attorneys.

"They have talked us out of doing music at all," he said.

Because of the size of the restaurant, the lack of a cover charge and the relatively small amount of business the live music was bringing in, Smith said getting a license was too expensive -- $1,400 to $1,900 each to both ASCAP and BMI. "We're better off not doing it."

He said he may seek a cheaper license, for about $800, that would allow karaoke or a live DJ on some nights.

Businesses that feature music -- recorded, live or performances that could include a DJ or karaoke -- are required to pay royalty fees to copyright owners through clearinghouses like BMI and ASCAP.

The fees are determined by factors including the size of the establishment and the use of the music. Live music -- which theoretically attracts more business -- carries a higher fee than recorded music.

When a business gets music through a commercial service such as DMX or Muzak, the fees are often included in the cost, said ASCAP Senior Vice President Vincent Candilora.

An establishment that hosts bands that play original music -- not registered with ASCAP or BMI -- would not have to pay the fee. But Candilora noted that most live bands play a few copyrighted cover tunes or the establishment ends up playing recorded, copyrighted music between sets.

In the Rusty Rudder's case, the bar was cited because of copyrighted music that was either played by bands or a DJ at the venue.

BMI has the rights to about 6.5 million musical works, while ASCAP claims ownership of about 8.5 million.

The lawsuit against Matilda's cites five copyrighted works that were "performed" in July 2007 and documented by an investigator for ASCAP, including songs by Eddie Vedder, Alicia Keys, Bon Jovi and Britney Spears.

Matilda's faces fines of $750 to $30,000 for each of the five infractions, according to court papers.

The same day court papers were filed against Matilda's, ASCAP filed similar lawsuits against 28 other establishments in 21 states.

"By filing these 29 actions at the same time, ASCAP is aiming to heighten awareness among music users and the public that it is a federal offense to perform copyrighted music without permission," said Candilora.

He added that 90 percent of the fees that ASCAP collects are paid back to the songwriters, composers and music publishers.

Lawsuits are only filed "as a last resort," Candilora said, usually after months of unsuccessful contacts with the establishment. Legal action is then necessary not only to be fair to song owners but to the 300,000 establishments that abide by the law and pay the fees, he said.

Despite the recent music lawsuits in Delaware, including a half-dozen in recent years by the Recording Industry of America against individuals who illegally downloaded songs from the Internet, New York entertainment attorney Steve Gordon said he does not think it is part of a coordinated industrywide effort.

"That is what they do for a living," he said of ASCAP. "They have been doing that for 100 years now. I don't think it is anything new."

A legal expert with Billboard magazine agreed.

"Simply business as usual, suing people and companies that do not properly license or purchase copyrighted music," said senior correspondent Susan Butler in an e-mail.

At the same time, Gordon, author of "The Future of the Music Business," said it is likely ASCAP and BMI have more work than ever because there are more people attempting to break into live music -- with more bands providing performances for more venues than ever before.

"There are more bands because it is easier to record music now. It is more affordable and more appealing, because of things like MySpace, to have a band and get music out there," he said.

So one result is new venues that are unaware -- or unwilling -- to abide by the rules.

Contact Sean O'Sullivan at 324-2777 or sosullivan@delawareonline.com

patrickrlewis
04-09-2008, 11:51 PM
"He added that 90 percent of the fees that ASCAP collects are paid back to the songwriters, composers and music publishers."

What a load of crap that is.

The Rusty Rudder has one of the nastiest booking managers on the planet, so I feel no sympathy for them :sqwink:

1cdj
04-09-2008, 11:54 PM
Newark nightspot sued for royalties by music giant. (http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080409/NEWS/804090365) Click to review story and photos.

By SEAN O'SULLIVAN • The News Journal • April 9, 2008

WILMINGTON -- A national music industry group has filed a federal lawsuit against a Newark restaurant for having live bands and karaoke nights featuring copyrighted music without paying the proper licensing fees.

The federal civil action by the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers, on behalf of copyright owners, against Matilda's on South College Avenue near the University of Delaware's Bob Carpenter Center comes less than six months after a similar lawsuit was filed against the Rusty Rudder in Dewey Beach.

That lawsuit, filed by Broadcast Music Inc., was resolved late last year in an undisclosed settlement between the music giant and the bar owners.

The legal action against Matilda's, an Australian-themed bar and grill, is part of a coordinated national campaign by ASCAP to crack down on businesses that fail to get the proper license despite repeated warnings.

Matilda's owner Doug Smith said the suit caught him by surprise and he is hoping to quickly resolve it.

He said he recently bought the restaurant from Lee Buzalek, who was named in the lawsuit, and was unaware of what happened or the previous ownership's conversations with ASCAP.

Smith initially said he planned to pay whatever he had to pay and continue the effort to have live music there. He later reversed course after talking to attorneys.

"They have talked us out of doing music at all," he said.

Because of the size of the restaurant, the lack of a cover charge and the relatively small amount of business the live music was bringing in, Smith said getting a license was too expensive -- $1,400 to $1,900 each to both ASCAP and BMI. "We're better off not doing it."

He said he may seek a cheaper license, for about $800, that would allow karaoke or a live DJ on some nights.

Businesses that feature music -- recorded, live or performances that could include a DJ or karaoke -- are required to pay royalty fees to copyright owners through clearinghouses like BMI and ASCAP.

The fees are determined by factors including the size of the establishment and the use of the music. Live music -- which theoretically attracts more business -- carries a higher fee than recorded music.

When a business gets music through a commercial service such as DMX or Muzak, the fees are often included in the cost, said ASCAP Senior Vice President Vincent Candilora.

An establishment that hosts bands that play original music -- not registered with ASCAP or BMI -- would not have to pay the fee. But Candilora noted that most live bands play a few copyrighted cover tunes or the establishment ends up playing recorded, copyrighted music between sets.

In the Rusty Rudder's case, the bar was cited because of copyrighted music that was either played by bands or a DJ at the venue.

BMI has the rights to about 6.5 million musical works, while ASCAP claims ownership of about 8.5 million.

The lawsuit against Matilda's cites five copyrighted works that were "performed" in July 2007 and documented by an investigator for ASCAP, including songs by Eddie Vedder, Alicia Keys, Bon Jovi and Britney Spears.

Matilda's faces fines of $750 to $30,000 for each of the five infractions, according to court papers.

The same day court papers were filed against Matilda's, ASCAP filed similar lawsuits against 28 other establishments in 21 states.

"By filing these 29 actions at the same time, ASCAP is aiming to heighten awareness among music users and the public that it is a federal offense to perform copyrighted music without permission," said Candilora.

He added that 90 percent of the fees that ASCAP collects are paid back to the songwriters, composers and music publishers.

Lawsuits are only filed "as a last resort," Candilora said, usually after months of unsuccessful contacts with the establishment. Legal action is then necessary not only to be fair to song owners but to the 300,000 establishments that abide by the law and pay the fees, he said.

Despite the recent music lawsuits in Delaware, including a half-dozen in recent years by the Recording Industry of America against individuals who illegally downloaded songs from the Internet, New York entertainment attorney Steve Gordon said he does not think it is part of a coordinated industrywide effort.

"That is what they do for a living," he said of ASCAP. "They have been doing that for 100 years now. I don't think it is anything new."

A legal expert with Billboard magazine agreed.

"Simply business as usual, suing people and companies that do not properly license or purchase copyrighted music," said senior correspondent Susan Butler in an e-mail.

At the same time, Gordon, author of "The Future of the Music Business," said it is likely ASCAP and BMI have more work than ever because there are more people attempting to break into live music -- with more bands providing performances for more venues than ever before.

"There are more bands because it is easier to record music now. It is more affordable and more appealing, because of things like MySpace, to have a band and get music out there," he said.

So one result is new venues that are unaware -- or unwilling -- to abide by the rules.

Contact Sean O'Sullivan at 324-2777 or sosullivan@delawareonline.com

I used to spin thursdays and Sunday nights in season at the rudder and fridays and saturdays at the paddock when i did nights at KHI and then the Coast

patrickrlewis
04-10-2008, 12:08 AM
Kyle,

I apologize if you know the booking manager and are friends with them. I just have always had issues every time I try to put a band in there.

Fred Stewart
04-10-2008, 12:45 AM
Yeah... I've heard some horror stories about that place.

Brian
04-10-2008, 12:46 AM
So technically, if a local bar or restaurant wants to hire me and don't have these licenses its breaking the law? Seems like BS, because I would bet that at least 50% of the small business that feature live music either don't know they have to pay, or can't afford to pay. Its a battle that I think won't ever be over.

patrickrlewis
04-10-2008, 12:48 AM
So technically, if a local bar or restaurant wants to hire me and don't have these licenses its breaking the law? Seems like BS, because I would bet that at least 50% of the small business that feature live music either don't know they have to pay, or can't afford to pay. Its a battle that I think won't ever be over.

Brian, any bar/venue that hires someone to come in and play someone else's music, be it as a DJ or live music, by law it MUST have an ASCAP and BMI license.

Many live music venues are completely banning cover bands because of this, and will not allow bands to play even one cover.

Fred Stewart
04-10-2008, 01:17 AM
Pat's right. Any public venue that hosts the reproduction of copyrighted music is subject to ASCAP/BMI licencing.

I mentioned in another thread somewhere about campgrounds. Many campground owners, especially the indies or Mom & Pops aren't aware of this. Once they're made aware, most simply stop doing dances. They're seasonal and don't take in enough money to cover the fees.

DJ JohnThe1
04-10-2008, 06:49 AM
This will never end. I wouldn't be surprised if they start comning after us dj's next. I guess we should be covered since we use Prime cuts and Promo only.
If a bar or restaurant subscribed to one of the music services and played it through a house PA, would they still get hassled by AssCAP?
Are they allowed to play the radio through a PA. In my gym they play music daily. Maybe they have to have a license also.

DougF
04-10-2008, 07:24 AM
Playing a radio through a PA system in a store in most case still requires and ASCAP/BMI license. Unless it falls under the conditions as set down in "The Gap Ruling". BUT technically speaking IF you are playing a radio through a PA you may also have to deal with the radio station itself as you are using their product in a commercial "for profit" setting. In my 30+years in the radio biz have only heard of a radio station threatening legal action for this type use only once and that station also sold a Muzak service. So it was you can't use us for free because we have to sell you this other music product.

Info on THE GAP RULING

http://www.altlaw.org/v1/cases/545741

1cdj
04-10-2008, 07:50 AM
I played the rudder and paddock between 1993-95
some guy named big mike booked the rudder I was getting around 400 a night back then in season

1cdj
04-10-2008, 07:53 AM
Brian, any bar/venue that hires someone to come in and play someone else's music, be it as a DJ or live music, by law it MUST have an ASCAP and BMI license.

Many live music venues are completely banning cover bands because of this, and will not allow bands to play even one cover.

Brian it's not BS and around here they take down clubs/bars to the beat of $1,000,000 to $2,000,000 but they seem to always settle around the 40-50k range. The regional guy here in the carolinas is Thomas Urqhart they call him the governor

1cdj
04-10-2008, 07:57 AM
Playing a radio through a PA system in a store in most case still requires and ASCAP/BMI license. Unless it falls under the conditions as set down in "The Gap Ruling". BUT technically speaking IF you are playing a radio through a PA you may also have to deal with the radio station itself as you are using their product in a commercial "for profit" setting. In my 30+years in the radio biz have only heard of a radio station threatening legal action for this type use only once and that station also sold a Muzak service. So it was you can't use us for free because we have to sell you this other music product.

Info on THE GAP RULING

http://www.altlaw.org/v1/cases/545741

Doug,
Unless it was like a sex shop or something or the scenario you described i dont know of any radio station that would actively go out and tell people to STOP Listening.

one station i worked at in DC had secret contests for retail, hair salons etc that would play the station. They would literally have interns go out and solicit businesses to play the station in their business and intice them with 3 dozen free donuts and a chance to win $10,000 in computer equipment etc.
Then the PD and Promotions director would get together and decide on an oh wow oldie that was the "secret song" and only the busineses knew it was time to call the station to win.

This was big timefor at least 5 years.

but not anymore GOD i mean Salem broadcasting owns the freq now

kyle

DougF
04-10-2008, 08:30 AM
Kyle... like I said the station I was talking about also had the Muzak franchise at the time and they were more interested in having that played in the stores than the main channel. This was a Class C FM in Michigan during the late 60's early 70's, I believe it was a Fetzer station at the time.

Today, are you kidding! Radio is even piped into the rest rooms!!!

1cdj
04-10-2008, 09:54 AM
That is just a tad bit before my time ;)

Brian
04-10-2008, 10:06 AM
Brian it's not BS and around here they take down clubs/bars to the beat of $1,000,000 to $2,000,000 but they seem to always settle around the 40-50k range. The regional guy here in the carolinas is Thomas Urqhart they call him the governor

I don't doubt that its a big issue, but my opinion of this whole copyright crackdown and copyright laws is that its BS for the reason being that its one of those things that will probably never end, and cost alot of good people a lot of money in the process.

JoeChartreuse
04-10-2008, 05:31 PM
Since this is in the Karaoke House, I would like to mention that though this has been going on for decades, I have yet to have firsthand experience, or meet any karaoke host personally that has ever had a problem. It's always third hand.

In another thread a bar called Dexter's was on a "busted" list. This venue is close to me and I know them well. 1) They ARE fully licensed, 2) They have NEVER had a problem or been approached- the list was bogus, 3) they are still running business as usual. cover bands and all, including tribute bands ( group imitators of bands like Bon Jovi, Kiss, etc...)


Lotta hype out there. Believe half of what you hear or read, and ignore the other half. Places DO get hassled, but come court day, the artist groups not only wash out, they sometimes get sued ( including by the artists not getting their "90%" )