Really good Speakers & amps cheap!

What is some really good speakers at cheap prices for Dee Jaying?

I want something that has a lota bass in them.

This looks like a good package.

http://www.northernlightfx.com/cart/product.php?productid=17081&cat=1288&page=1

Only $168 a month.

You'll need a few amps but I'm sure you could get a good deal on them also.


Welcome to ODJT.

We could help you better if you gave us specifics of Use and a Budget

Cam 6000.00 for speakers is not cheap. :sqerr:

Go to 123dj.com and put something together then shop what you find around careful ordering from 123 they have a bad rep.

it depends on what he is looking for $6000 could be a great deal if he planned to spend $8000

Can you have "Good and Cheap"? I don't think so.

You can have Good or you can have Cheap.

You can have "Useable and Cheap"

Or "Maybe Get Me By and Cheap"

What you should do is save a little money so you can buy gear that will last you. Good and Cheap will not last you. You would be better off renting desent stuff, and buying better as the money allows.

A lot of people don't understand that you DON'T have to buy a complete package all at once. If you can't afford it, buy one speaker when you can, then buy the other, then buy the amp, then buy the sub, do it in steps.

You don't have to have $6,000.00 up front.

You do need to have a plan, and that doesn't cost you anything.

DJ Cam,

Those looks like nice speakers but not very big and way too expensive.

I am looking for some really nice speakers for school dances. I want big speakers and even bigger bass speakers and the amps that it will take to run them.

I know I don't know a lot about it right now but I learn fast. I already have a mixer and CD players and turntables and lots of music probably 3,000 or 4,000 songs and over 30 vinyls.

thunder - Cam and Chuck have offered some pretty good advice. You want something "very good" for a "cheap" price. That doesn't often exist... The funny thing is, as DJs we put down clients who are looking for the same thing!

Like Cam said, maybe if you gave us an idea of what your budget is...

You also mention that the speakers Cam linked to are "not very big." Please don't get sucked into the thought pattern that bigger is better... It may look more impressive (especially to kids), but sound worse...

Give us some more info, and let's see what we can hash out!

Cam 6000.00 for speakers is not cheap. :sqerr:

Go to 123dj.com and put something together then shop what you find around careful ordering from 123 they have a bad rep.

lets dance - I love that you advise thunder to go to 123dj.com, but then say to be careful ordering from them because of their bad rep... :sqlaugh: :sqerr: :sqlaugh:

So maybe it is true when they say "You get what you pay for!" :sqwink:

Ok,

For really big School dances I use: (Only Done Twice)

4 - Turbosound TXD-252
4 - Turbosound TXD-218

That's 8 - 18" Subs and 4 Dual 15" Mains with Horns.

It's overkill. I could easily get away with 2 Dual 15" Mains and 2 Dual 18" Subs.

The Tops have dropped in price and can be found for $800 each The Subs are $1300 so my setup is $4200 just for speakers.

I'm guessing that is over your budget also.

The BIG setup you are looing for is not going to be cheap. If you think a set of Dual 18" and Dual 15" isn't big enough, you are really going to have to look at buying something used.

Ok,

I saw something in the trader that I think might fit what I want. it says,

Nice full sound Peavey DJ and band system
4 - 118" subs, 2 SP4's with 4 - 2000 watt amp.

asking price $5,000

What are SP 4's do anybody know what they sound like?
and anybody know about the 4-2000 watt amp is it big enough for the speakers?

As for my budget I just got the trust i had from a accident I had from when I was a kid, so anything up to $32,000, but I don't want to spend a bunch of money for overpriced stuff. I don't intend to be stupid with my money.

[QUOTE=DJ Cam;160045]Ok,

4 - Turbosound TXD-252
4 - Turbosound TXD-218

The Tops have dropped in price and can be found for $800 each The Subs are $1300 so my setup is $4200 just for speakers.


I don't want be pushy Cam but where did you learn math?

I added it up twice and both time I get $8,400

My math was for the have size system. 2 tops and 2 subs.


Peavy isn't bad. It doesn't have near as much bag or bump as other manufactures. They will take a serious beating.

Here is a very good package option from Carvin. It will outperform the Peavy hands down. Total $4900 for everything needed.

https://www.carvinguitars.com/products/single.php?product=TRX153-22

Thank you I will look at the carvins

I didnt mean nothing by my words, I have sometimes hard time putting things together in my head.

Thunder....

Have you been a DJ before?

Don’t take this the wrong way, but unless you have some experience working with another DJ, or DJ company, I would be careful spending all of your $$$ on equipment. We have seen this happen before, after a month or year, you discover that you really do not like being a DJ... or at least don't like the business of being a DJ. (there is a BIG difference)

If this is all new for you, I would recommend that you find a DJ or a Multi-op company that would take you on, pay you to DJ for them, use their equipment. As you learn more about the industry and know that this is something that you want to invest in, only then should you jump in!

By the way, finding slightly used gear on e-bay or Craig’s list, from others that jumped in before they knew what they were really getting into, is a great place to look! :sqwink:

Scottie,

No I never have work for another DJ, I have spended most of what I remember of my life in rehab therapy. Schooled most at home. Mom died last year so all I have now is the house ss pension and my trust. I just turn 23 but have been playing with my DJ set at home for years it help get my arm to work. I have what people call busted mug so most DJ people is scared of me. I think of me as hunchback notredam.

Funny this thread came up.

I have a chance to pick up a Crown XLS-402 amp and a pair of cerwin vega v-152's

Anybody got anything to say about either?

Sure you want to lug Speakers for a living????

You may want to look into working as a House DJ, where packing equipment is not required.

IF you still want to go the mobile route... look into working with another DJ for a while to see if this is really something you want to invest into. Remember Your investment may take a long wile to pay off... working for another DJ for $ is a good start when you figure you may be working for free for a year or 2 to pay off your purchases.

being a DJ at an event is a blast, and a great way to earn income.. However like most things, there is more to it then just the fun. There is the business side of it all too... clients to find, meetings, overhead, insurance.... the list goes on and on.

However I give you props for getting out there and making something happen! This site is going to be one of your BIGGEST assets... take information from here and USE IT!

All of our members are here to help. Unfortunately we could offer multiples of solutions but not knowing exactly what you are hoping to do and spend or achieve it leaves us playing the guessing game.
Everyone here has great ideas and opinions but in all honesty you need to know where you are heading in this wonderful endeavor.
I suggest you get all that determined within your hopes and goals. Once you determine all of that. Contact the man who has all the knowledge required to help anyone at any level of entry into this career. Contact our worthy sponsor Ben Stowe from Northern Light FX the banner is viewable at the top of our site page. Go to the Lighting and Special Effects Forum his link is listed as sponsor of that forum. Honest Integrity and a desire to share proper info to satisfy your every need will be explored and all of this from one who has provided our home here through sponsorship. Without quality honest sponsors this site might not exist. Consider Ben first you wont be sorry.

Scottie,

I been Dee Jayiing in my house for a long time i want to get out now!

Are any dee jay in the DC metro area who want to hire me I have a econline van and everything but big speakers. I am real strong mostly only my left arm is not big.

Thank you jon tuck,

I am knowing where iwant to head, just needed ideas on what I needs to get there.

Hey Thunder... I ment House DJ, as in working for a club! I totaly understand that you want to get out of your home.... you dont have to tell me, Im married! :sqlaugh:

By the way..... you have the right attatude! and willing to learn, you will do great!

Oh sorry,

get tired brain don't work to good. I wish to get a girlfriend one day needs to find one who not scared by my face.

Trust me Ben is one of the industries most trusted suppliers.

Take a look at the RCF series. Good quality speakers with reliability.

Thunder....I may come off wrong here, but what kind of DJ do you want to be?

Do you want to be the DJ who blows all his money on gear first without getting behind the wheel of a couple gigs with rented gear?

Far cheaper and quicker answer to your goals.

What about radio?

lets dance - I love that you advise thunder to go to 123dj.com, but then say to be careful ordering from them because of their bad rep... :sqlaugh: :sqerr: :sqlaugh:

So maybe it is true when they say "You get what you pay for!" :sqwink:

Bad rep when it comes to delivery they just have a huge selection to give thunder an idea what is out there and what its worth.

Thunder -

I agree about avoiding overpriced gear... more often than not "cheap" gear is "overpriced" because it isn't even worth what they charge you for it. On the other hand, Cam has some very solid advice. If you want a rig that will stop people's breathing with bass, sound absoultely stunning and be impressively sized, while light and fast to set up and tear down, check out the Dynacord XA. It's probably WAY more than you plan to spend... but that's where you need to acheive some balance. Do you want "Big" or "big sounding". Do you want, "good" or "loud". If you spend just a few thousand, you WILL be disappointed with the results. However, in the $5,000 and up range you can begin to have some quality for the types of rigs you're describing. However, there is no free lunch. You TRULY get what you pay for. You've heard lots of experienced people here tell you that, and they are right.

I promise you that we will not steer you wrong, and that our advice will be educational and sincer... and I also promise you that you may not like all of it. ;)

Where are you located? Let's see what we can do to help put a system together for you. We'd love to help meet your system needs.

Ben

Scottie,

I been Dee Jayiing in my house for a long time i want to get out now!

Are any dee jay in the DC metro area who want to hire me I have a econline van and everything but big speakers. I am real strong mostly only my left arm is not big.

I hope you dont understand me wrong but Dj-ing in youre house and in front of people are two different things.
Maybe you can go this way:
Go for house Dj in some Bar or elsewhere.Make some expirience how to work with people.Its cool that you play at youre house but when people wants some songs on request-youre program which you made at home goes bye bye.
So,after some Bar gigs you deside what next.One possible thing is that you stay as Bar and small event Dj or you go mobile like most of us here.I must worry you-Its not the easy way to go.You can be a fantastic Dj but without gigs youre only someone who stays at home with some nice speakers and the whole gear.
But thats just me.

Think twice before you do the next step.I see from youre words that you know that outside is not a Disneyland.
So, i hope I helpt you a bit.

BTW-Go active with speakers!:sqwink:

Funny this thread came up.

I have a chance to pick up a Crown XLS-402 amp and a pair of cerwin vega v-152's

Anybody got anything to say about either?

JT,
The CV 152's are decent sounding speakers. I had them back in 2002. The only problem I ran into was the horns cutting out. You have to match your amp to them. When they get hot, they cut out an that to me is a serious no no.

JT,
The CV 152's are decent sounding speakers. I had them back in 2002. The only problem I ran into was the horns cutting out. You have to match your amp to them. When they get hot, they cut out an that to me is a serious no no.

I'm pairing them up 4 OHM to a dual 15" sonic that I have. I'm running a QSC 1850. I'm using DBX Driverack for crossover control as well as a limiter.

Your information is most helpful. I'll be watching and listening on Saturday to see if I want to keep them. I'm really using them to get a little more coverage in a gym over the heads of the kids.

They are 300W - 600W peak. These are good enough to do what I need for now I'm sure.

They don't build Cerwin Vega like they used to.

Exactly. This was one of the last decent boxes they made. I first heard them in a bar with no sub and I was really impressed. I ran out and bought a set a week later. I sold them to my cousin 2 years later and he still uses them weekly. 6 years going strong.
You will like them. For the price they are well worth it.

Okay Thunder... here's a rig that looks to be built for what you want to do. It's big, scary, LOUD, lots of bass, and very affordable. It's only available for another month or so, so we'll have to act fairly quick.

It's the Gladiator Super Stack. EV quality, made in the USA. Whole system runs off of a single amp, quick setup, easy operation. 4 x Gladiator G118, 2 x G115 and a CP3000 amp. With all cables, etc... delivered to your door you'd be looking at roughly $5,000. Maybe a little less even. That's for brand new, quality boxes. I'd give it a VERY serious look. Peavey and CV won't hold a candle to it. I used to own SP4s way back when I was first starting... no comparrison.

Ben

Here's a little propoganda for you. I really think for the money you want to spend, this is the rig for you. I woke up in the middle of the night thinking about it and how it is the perfect solution for your application. The cutsheets show the CP2200 amplifier. Works great, obviously designed for the application, but headroom is a beautiful thing. EV's engineers and I really agree that you should have the CP3000.

Bottom line... 136dB!! :D

http://www.northernlightfx.com/EV/GLAD1.jpg
http://www.northernlightfx.com/EV/GLAD2.jpg

Exactly. This was one of the last decent boxes they made. I first heard them in a bar with no sub and I was really impressed. I ran out and bought a set a week later. I sold them to my cousin 2 years later and he still uses them weekly. 6 years going strong.
You will like them. For the price they are well worth it.

Got the speakers...

Well, one of them has highs, but they are weak. I took out the circuit board....no burnt traces or anything, so I'm not sure what it is. The plasticky driver is pumping highs, but not as much as the other side.

Its still usable. Woofer is fine. I'll call Cerwin and see what they say. Hopefully they can just ship me another circuit board and driver.

Cam 6000.00 for speakers is not cheap. :sqerr:

Go to 123dj.com and put something together then shop what you find around careful ordering from 123 they have a bad rep.

$600 is cheap for a quality speaker

$600 is cheap for a quality speaker

6000 not 600
I agree 600 is resonable for a quailty speaker.

Thank you Ben,

So I get three speakers and one amp for how much. Looks like it will be easyer to setup with only one amp. That is what I liked about the peavey system I saw one amp but peavy has 6 speaker

I read on carvin that three amps is used for 4 speakers.

Actually, it's 6 speakers and one amp. You'll be running 2.6 Ohm load into the amp, and EV has designed this system to run reliably this way for years and years and years. I've personally used and sold many of these and they are great for the money! You'd be looking at 6 speakers, one amp and cables for right around $5,000.

I can honestly tell you that there is NO comparrison between this and the Peavey systems. I used to own Peavey way back in the day because it's all that I knew. Now for 15 years I have worked at a company that carries 80 brands and I get to see the best and worst of all of them. I wouldn't buy another Peavey. Just my .02.

I have spent a LOT of time at EV's headquarters talking to their engineers, etc... and the amount of time and money they spend on research, testing and development is absolutely stunning. It's fantastic that a company that makes $200,000 systems also offers something like the Gladiator, yet the same engineers are involved in the process!!

Ben

Thank you Ben,

So I get three speakers and one amp for how much. Looks like it will be easyer to setup with only one amp. That is what I liked about the peavey system I saw one amp but peavy has 6 speaker

I read on carvin that three amps is used for 4 speakers.

Thank you I will look at the carvins

I didnt mean nothing by my words, I have sometimes hard time putting things together in my head.


I gotta say, being a dj is more than just popping some music on and playing. Anyone can do that, many try, and many find out they can pop music on and play, but that they are NOT DJs. You have to have personality, you have to be a people person, and not being able to put things together in your head, already says to me, you may want to reconsider, in this business, you will deal with mad brides, upset mothers, YOU will be the one they turn to for answers, solutions to their issues, and unless you work with someone prior to this "jump" of yours into the DJ world, you could easily find yourself on ebay in a few months, unloading this equipment at a huge loss. Before you buy, spend some time here, read, research, ask questions, but most of all BE PREPARED, u gotta be quick on your feet as a DJ. I am certainly NOT saying dont be one, I encourage everyone, regardless of their situation, but reality is reality, if your not a people person, your wasting your money

I'm thinking that was some good advice.

Here is another bit of advice, get some experience before you invest thousands of dollars unless you're very sure of yourself and your talents/skills.

One more thing to consider, the hardest part of being a DJ is getting the gigs. Djing is way easier IMO. The business side of DJing is the hard part.

Like I said.

Rent for a few gigs, then decide.

after viewing your page, i'm guessing we all here have the wrong impression of you, your page shows quite a bit of equipment , so, are you new to the dj world? or your not? I am actually confused at this point

I will agree with you Ron in theory but practically thinking, to gain knowledge and find the timing skills just doesnt fall into most peoples laps. Gigs have a way of doing that with your outgoing personality and talking about your passion to total strangers. I ws just thinking about having discussed with some local DJs certain songs I had no luck with here locally and finding out they are using them with at least moderate success if not more. It occured to me Im likely not playing them at the right time. I learned something today. I still need to increase my timing skills. I have come a long way since 1974 yet I have much room for improvement in the quest for perfection. Thunder learning these things come with experience and finding someone to mentor and reading here will help you reach your goals alot faster and more succesfully. Good luck.

Actually, it's 6 speakers and one amp. You'll be running 2.6 Ohm load into the amp, and EV has designed this system to run reliably this way for years and years and years. I've personally used and sold many of these and they are great for the money! You'd be looking at 6 speakers, one amp and cables for right around $5,000.

I can honestly tell you that there is NO comparison between this and the Peavey systems. I used to own Peavey way back in the day because it's all that I knew. Now for 15 years I have worked at a company that carries 80 brands and I get to see the best and worst of all of them. I wouldn't buy another Peavey. Just my .02.

I have spent a LOT of time at EV's headquarters talking to their engineers, etc... and the amount of time and money they spend on research, testing and development is absolutely stunning. It's fantastic that a company that makes $200,000 systems also offers something like the Gladiator, yet the same engineers are involved in the process!!

Ben

Ben,

While I agree this looks like a very nice system. With only one amplifier one is royally bent over if the amp should fail. I have purchased and used quality gear my entire life and I have still witnessed a few amplifier failures.

Having back up or redundancy in a system is priceless. If one amp should fail in my turbo system I could make it though the evening on one amp, using the crossover in the subs vs my rack crossover.

Agreed. I would NEVER argue against a backup amplifier, or the merits of electronic crossovers and a bi-amp system. I'm simply trying to meet his needs and budget with a system. If the budget allowed, I would certainly advocate having a second amplifier, same with CD player, mixer and other critical gear.

Ben

Ben,

While I agree this looks like a very nice system. With only one amplifier one is royally bent over if the amp should fail. I have purchased and used quality gear my entire life and I have still witnessed a few amplifier failures.

Having back up or redundancy in a system is priceless. If one amp should fail in my turbo system I could make it though the evening on one amp, using the crossover in the subs vs my rack crossover.

DJ tapout,

what page you viewing I only have these 3 pages so far.

OK I have been outed!

I want to thank all those who would help out the poor kid lost in a lonely world. Thanks, I still have faith in humanity.

As some already know by now I am not really new to the field of DJ entertainment and certainly not to field of sound. I have owned EV gear and JBL gear mid line in it's day. And years ago went to Peavey mainly for one reason consistent reliability, but others stuck their ugly little heads into the mix. Time/Cost considerations for a blown speaker, with the EV and JBL gear I had I found it very easy to burn a voice coil with the low powered amps we were running in those days.

Turn around for R&R was on average about two weeks at a cost of around $115 each for JBL and EV, turn around for R&R on a Peavey BW speaker was 1 day and around $55, if you were unlucky enough to actually be able to blow one up. That just made good common sense. Was the EV or JBL midline actually any louder than Peavey? Not really! Was sound reproduction really any better than Peavey? Not really, although Peavey required a little more tweeking to get that sound quality.

With the advent in the late 80's of many more higher output amps at a resonable cost the Peavey systems really started to show their stuff and the EV and JBL gear was slowly pushed further and further back in storage only to be used when more than a couple of gigs needed to be done on the same day, as the drivers died they were not replaced with EV and JBL replacements but Peavey was inserted into the cabinets.

I have 25+ year old peavey speakers that are all original and still in use. I have 25+ year old Peavey amps that are still in use. A couple of years ago I emptied out my storage building and carried my dead EV, JBL speakers and my dead EV and crown amps to the dump.

Yes I agree that Peavey is not the best of the best when it comes to sound gear, but I am firmly convinced it is the best of the best in reliability of any sound gear!

I see why you're smiling in your avatar, you're a funny guy. This was a good little ruse and interesting. Thanks for the yuks.

Thanks OZ,

I strive to keep things interesting:sqwink:

Folks, may I present Thunder - better known to many of the old timers here as Steve Miller.

Steve's from the old guard and knows his chit.

Thank you Steve Miller. This place needs a guy like you to inject some levity and we can certainly use your ability to read and understand the English language. Very refreshing.

Welcome back, Steve.

Thunder,
Thats what I told in one of my threads.If you buy some speakers in the same price range there can not be any big difference in sound.Sometimes you can push low budget speakers if you have the knowlege also so good as some big Brand names.If you know how to place the speakers and what you do with EQ or something, then you dont need a million$ for gear.
I personaly like small stuff.Lighweight speakers and active.I know that this small things can not in the moment compare with big heavy things but anyway.It deppends for what you need youre speakers.I have L1 Bose but use them only for weddings.90% of my gigs i do with my cheap two actives and sometimes i rent the speakers.I dont rent the Bose-no chance if im not at the event also.If something goes wrong-what then?Im too far away to get parts realy fast.So i rent my chepys or Eons(mostly).
Two years ago i was doing gigs with Powermixer and two passives.Setup time-less than 5 minutes.I had the big Montarbo Active system but i was in love with small system because the setup time.Only thing that i dont like on this one is that Powermixers are so big and heavy if you need more powerfool thing, and thats why i sell it and go active.
So Im bit out of theme but i think Oz will get some info out of my wrighting.

Steve, I was wondering from post number one if this was someone trolling the boards....good one. I was almost going to get sideways after about the 3rd post. Funny....

Steve thanks for making Ron happy he needs a donut.

Bwahahahaaaaaaa, thanks for the donut!

It's good to see you back Steve.

Welcome home Steve. :)

As you may have noticed Steve, I bring a certain edginess to ODJT. It's my humble contribution. People are way too nice and way too polite here, it's getting monotonous. Mix it up Steve, this place is dying for some fun and excitement.

As you may have noticed Steve, I bring a certain edginess to ODJT. It's my humble contribution. People are way too nice and way too polite here, it's getting monotonous. Mix it up Steve, this place is dying for some fun and excitement.

Don't mix too much. I like it here.
Stir, don't shake. Polite and nice, just like our brides.
Have you met Steve before? lol....

Don't mix too much. I like it here.
Stir, don't shake. Polite and nice, just like our brides.
Have you met Steve before? lol....

ROTFLMAOPIMP

If you're PIMP I hope you have your depends on! ar r r r r r r r r

I never met him, don't know anything about him other than what I've read here, but I like his style.

He's a little brash, but still respectful. He says what's on his mind and doesn't mince words, I like that kind of straightforward way of communicating.

For a few months when I came here I felt like I was walking on eggshells-gotta be real careful what you say, don't want to offend anyone, be sugary nice, go with the flow, don't be controversial etc. Sorry, that's not me. If it gets me kicked out of here, so be it. At least I'll go honestly with my integrity intact. As I get older my tolerance of BS is getting thin.

If you don't like me or what I have to say, say so and give a good reason. If you make a compelling point, I'll be the first to change my mind.

party time!

Scottie,

No I never have work for another DJ, I have spended most of what I remember of my life in rehab therapy. Schooled most at home. Mom died last year so all I have now is the house ss pension and my trust. I just turn 23 but have been playing with my DJ set at home for years it help get my arm to work. I have what people call busted mug so most DJ people is scared of me. I think of me as hunchback notredam.

Now that Fred put your avatar there, I can see why.... :sqlaugh::sqwink:

Thank you Steve Miller. This place needs a guy like you to inject some levity and we can certainly use your ability to read and understand the English language. Very refreshing.

Why? We're a fun(ny) bunch! :sqbiggrin:

Yeah, that part is reel funnee:sqlaugh:

busted mug, I love it :sqlaugh:

we must have posted at the same time I was responding to the previous post.

Steve and I have been buddies for a long time. I lived in Steve's neck of the woods for 18 years. The member name Thunder caught my attention ~ that's Steve's company name. He's not as good at hiding as he thought, lol. ;)

Actually, the avatar is a clip from a photo Shirl took when we were visiting. Steve and I had our arms around each others' shoulders for a photo op. My mug was cropped out. :D

Steve and Joanne are good people. They'll give you the red carpet treatment, believe me. Nothing is to good for friends.

That said, nobody should think he has to walk on eggshells around here. Quite the contrary. Look at the folks on staff. We're all a bunch of impolitic, irreverent DJs. What does that tell yas? :D

Carry on. :)

My Main system is RCF I use the Carvin Powered 12" for ceremonies and cocktail hours and they are GREAT for the price you can't beat em