does a wireless mic exist that...

has some form of tone control, maybe just bass and treble, on the receiver itself? Or is there a way to set a small filter on the output on my existing mics?

I can tweak either my "standard" audio system or my Bose audio system to my own sonic nirvana, but when I add any of my wireless mics to the mix, the mics sound muddy (I like music playback bass-heavy, I suppose).

Now, if I were using a more standard "full size" mixer, versus either my 1RU Rane MP4, or midi controller Hercules RMX, I would have EQ on the mics, on the mixer, but that's not presently what I'm using.

Does such a fix exist?

Steve - if I'm understanding your request correctly, I'm not sure there is such a beast, and if there is, something with such esoteric controls would command a pretty hefty price tag.

Allow me to speculate somewhat here - (bear with me)

Would it be possible to run a 1/4" Y-adapter from the output of the receiver to an E.Q. unit prior to anything else? That way, you could in theory run "dual-mono" mode to each channel in the audio chain by using the E.Q.'s outputs into whatever the next piece of equipment there is in the chain.

This could (again in theory) give you much more flexibility over the sound of your mic.

I'm not exactly sure this could be done, but it's a start.

I bet Fred could give you some sound advice since he's experienced with live sound.

Cap may have some ideas if you're running the Bose L1 system.

I searched through Sennheiser's and Shure's websites to see if there were some sort of adapter you could attach to the handheld mic itself, but couldn't find anything at all that resembled what you were looking for.

Just my thoughts on the matter.

Good luck!

Steve,

To answer your question, yes they do exist they are called Microphone pre-amps and prices range from the very cheap around $130 to +$5000. Art makes a pretty decent Dual channel tube unit for around three hundred dollars.

Tone controls are in the EQ and you can do the same with nothing more than a single dedicated EQ but the added compressor along with the shelving EQ on a mic pre-amp will pay off for you in the long run.

Oops - I forgot that Steve is also one our more esteemed live sound guru's here - my apologies.

Greg,

No offense taken so no apology needed but thank you anyway.

has some form of tone control, maybe just bass and treble, on the receiver itself? Or is there a way to set a small filter on the output on my existing mics?

I can tweak either my "standard" audio system or my Bose audio system to my own sonic nirvana, but when I add any of my wireless mics to the mix, the mics sound muddy (I like music playback bass-heavy, I suppose).

Now, if I were using a more standard "full size" mixer, versus either my 1RU Rane MP4, or midi controller Hercules RMX, I would have EQ on the mics, on the mixer, but that's not presently what I'm using.

Does such a fix exist?

use the bose L1 mod 1 input 1or2 and remote eq. and preset for your mic

Steve's right. A mic preamp would cure most if not all of your current problems. :)

In an ideal situation, every mic should have a dedicated EQ channel and compression/limiting before it's sent to the PA. I don't like running mics through the line mix either but with most DJ boards, it can't be helped.

I dunno if this will help but I'll mention it: If you are using effects like echo and flanging on your mics and feeding the whole thing through a compressor/limiter in the processing chain, your mics will be muddy. I learned this the hard way.

Anytime you are making anouncements the mic should be clean and dry here are some don'ts for mic work

1. Don't use any form of effects on the mic, no echo, no reverb, nothing.

2. Don't increase the bass on the mic EQ, drop it instead I like to drop out at least 8DB on any frequencies below 500 hertz and 15DB on everything below 250 hertz.

3. Don't pretend to be a rap star, don't choke the mic (grabbing the ball in your hand) all that does is distort the pickup pattern of the mic and introduce feedback into the system and your sound comes out a garbled and unintelligable mess.

It doesn't matter that you don't have a deep baratone mic voice, what matters is the guest are able to understand you!

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Seriously, it would seem pointless for a mic manufacture to provide eq settings built into the mic, if I saw that, instantly would think cheesy and chunk it. You are better off using a pre-amp to get the tone set just right :)

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Actually there are some fairly decent studio mics that do have preset EQ settings built into them. I just haven't ever figured out why since they come into the board through a preamp and then EQ and then effects processors.

I use a small "mini-board" for effects on one of my karaoke mics, and to key change a less talented singer closer to home without telling them.


I don't believe that you need pre-amplification since a wireless mic plugs into your mixer or amp anyway, so for a very few bucks you may want to try this :

It's technically a device that is supposed to be used with a DVD player to create karaoke for the home TV. I don't know if it works because I found the other use for it.

For the mic it has a 3 band EQ, pitch control, plus effects ( that you WON"T use for announcing purposes such as key change, echo, delay, etc...) Run your wireless receiver cable to it, and from it to the amp.

The EQ can make a muddy mic sound clearer, or make a decent mic cut through hi bass settings.

It probably won't cost more than $50 bucks, ( closer to $30 would be about right )so it may be worth a shot:

It's called a Karaoke Ninja KN-X1, and it's made by Nikkodo/BMB. I've had it about 5 years and it does me well. Just got lucky. Nobody will mistake it for hi-end, but it looks nice and does the job....

EDIT ADDITION: I realize that I was unclear about something- pre-amplification. I brought that up in case you just want to pick up a non-amp mixer. The Ninja DOES have a bit of a pre-amp built in... Sorry about that.

I believe VOCOPRO makes a six channel single space unit as well that is simply a three band EQ.

Not that I am in anyway recomending any VOCOPRO product. It is however very Cheap!

Travis,

Just to point out something about Mics... I use a Rode NT2A from time to time in the studio it has a full range of settings built into the mic from pattern to low cuts (EQ) the AT 4040 also has a low cut switch on it, Shure KSM44 has it as well.

While not really expensive mics they are all of a decent quality, I certainly wouldn't call any of them really cheesy.

Yeah,

Steve not covering myself here, but we have used a rode mic and a shure once that had that low cut feature on it. I was referring more to the low-mid-hi settings on like a potentiometer or something like that. That's what I would call cheesy.

Low cut is fine. I have also seen some mics where you can change the polar pattern on them as well, those are pretty cool looking.

I believe VOCOPRO makes a six channel single space unit as well that is simply a three band EQ.

Not that I am in anyway recomending any VOCOPRO product. It is however very Cheap!


and still overpriced....:sqcool:

and still overpriced....:sqcool:

Certainly no disagreement here Joe :sqwink: