Papa Deuce
05-30-2008, 09:09 PM
The setup you use the most.... passive or powered?
Mine has been passive, but now that I have Bose, mine will be powered.
Mine has been passive, but now that I have Bose, mine will be powered.
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For your main set of speakers.... passive or powered?Papa Deuce 05-30-2008, 09:09 PM The setup you use the most.... passive or powered? Mine has been passive, but now that I have Bose, mine will be powered. trafficgoo 05-30-2008, 09:13 PM I'm going from passive to powered too! SoftJock Rick 05-30-2008, 09:14 PM Passive. Much like women and children, they need to be controlled properly :sqbiggrin: I use tubes myself :sqcool: DJ SVO 05-30-2008, 09:21 PM Passive :) Fred Stewart 05-30-2008, 09:35 PM 100% passive, Baby. :D Our rig is a pipsqueak in comparison to Val's "stereo" but it ain't no slouch. ;) We can run 6,000 WRMS of tri-amped FOH sound if you need it. Or if you don't. :) The scenario we use most often is bi-amped. A pair of dually 10" 2-way mid-tops and pair of single 18" trapezoid, front-loaded bass bins. No active cabs for this boy, sorry. :D Papa Deuce 05-30-2008, 09:45 PM Fred, your response in the other thread is what made me post this poll / thread. MBM 05-30-2008, 10:06 PM All powered since about 2004. In order of Recent Purchased Dual Bose L1 Quad B1 system 2 Tapco Th-15 (used for ceremony, or rear fill) (For Sale, don't need fill with the Bose System) 4 Mackie SRS-1500s 2 Mackie SRM-450s 2 Mackie SA-1232s (For sale right now) Kirby Ball 05-30-2008, 11:25 PM Passive, passive....passive!:yoBiggrin: Main set, 3 sets of "back up" speakers, subs....all Passive.:sqbiggrin::sqwink: DJ Wes 05-30-2008, 11:47 PM Both. Passive tops and active subs. DJFuzzy 05-31-2008, 12:35 AM 100% passive, Baby. :D Our rig is a pipsqueak in comparison to Val's "stereo" but it ain't no slouch. ;) We can run 6,000 WRMS of tri-amped FOH sound if you need it. Or if you don't. :) The scenario we use most often is bi-amped. A pair of dually 10" 2-way mid-tops and pair of single 18" trapezoid, front-loaded bass bins. No active cabs for this boy, sorry. :D *Looks for his rag JoeChartreuse 05-31-2008, 06:57 PM I am a follower of the KISS principle- passive only. I don't use subs for straight karaoke, but at events where I'm mixing in DJ work I use a powered sub. So Cal Hugh 05-31-2008, 08:26 PM Used to be passive, but now it's Bose. Bill Kexel 06-01-2008, 04:40 AM Passive all the way. I sold my amps....along with my outdated cumberbuns. Jon Tuck 06-01-2008, 04:43 AM what do you POWER your passive speakers with then? Do you mean you now have POWERED or active speakers, and is that just an extra wide belt around your waist (girdle)?:sqwink::sqwink::sqwink:Passive all the way. I sold my amps....along with my outdated cumberbuns. Jeff Romard 06-01-2008, 05:01 AM Passive...If I manage to get old and manage to keep in this business I might wind up with the treat of the week lightweight powered system thats around then but as long as I can lift its passive jkcomputers 06-01-2008, 04:04 PM Powered, I have built in backup, If ones goes, I still have the other, Plus less wires to setup, Let power I have to pull of one breaker and less equipment to hall around... DJ Wes 06-01-2008, 07:17 PM Powered, I have built in backup, If ones goes, I still have the other, Plus less wires to setup, Let power I have to pull of one breaker and less equipment to hall around... I've never understood this agument. What if you had a power spike? Wouldn't that potentially take both out? My back-up amp sets in my trailer where it's much safer. Also, I only have one cord going to my passive speakers. With powered speakers, you have two (signal & power). Unless you go straight from your mixer to your speakers, there are MORE wires involved in setting up an active system. But, most DJs I know have some processing gear they pass through first before going to the speakers. My set-up has two xlr's going from my mixer to my processing rack and then two speaker cables going from my rack to the speakers. Seems pretty simple to me. DJ JohnThe1 06-01-2008, 07:24 PM I still use my passive rig, but the main rig is Powered. fdja 06-01-2008, 08:19 PM I've heard some nice sounding powered DJ speakers which would probably be plenty loud for a typical event, but if your gig needs LOUDSPEAKERS it's something best achieved with passives. I think this is limited to DJs and Small Bands though because the big exception to this would be in terms of concert systems where they are using powered speaks in line arrays in multiples for kilowatt mega volume. fdja 06-01-2008, 08:21 PM I've never understood this agument. What if you had a power spike? Wouldn't that potentially take both out? My back-up amp sets in my trailer where it's much safer. Also, I only have one cord going to my passive speakers. With powered speakers, you have two (signal & power). Unless you go straight from your mixer to your speakers, there are MORE wires involved in setting up an active system. But, most DJs I know have some processing gear they pass through first before going to the speakers. My set-up has two xlr's going from my mixer to my processing rack and then two speaker cables going from my rack to the speakers. Seems pretty simple to me. :sqerr: That's when you ask the bride for her IPOD... *** insert crickets here *** djronh1 06-01-2008, 09:13 PM Powered here. Mackie SRM450 with Yorkville 700p Bill Kexel 06-04-2008, 12:08 AM what do you POWER your passive speakers with then? Do you mean you now have POWERED or active speakers, and is that just an extra wide belt around your waist (girdle)?:sqwink::sqwink::sqwink: Ooops! Typo! Thanks Jon! POWERED all the way!!!!! sparkieg 06-04-2008, 01:14 AM Passive - Like Fred, I'm old school. The usual set-up is a bi-amped system, next step-up is a tri-amped system. For those incredibly rare instances when I have to pull out the fairgrounds system, this is what it consists of: (2) Peavey 4-C amps (1) Peavey 8.5 C amp (2) Yamaha P2000 amps (2) E.V. Sb-180 folded subs (2) Elliot cabs loaded with Eminence 18" subs (2) E.V. SX-500's (for mains use) (2) Yamaha S115's (Mid highs) (2) Yamaha S112's (highs) or (2) long throw E.V horns for highs and when the extreme rare instance calls for it - (2) Altec Voice of Theatre cabs replace the 4 Yamaha units (and these haven't seen the light of day for 4 years - damn things weigh a ton) Jeff Romard 06-04-2008, 03:37 AM (2) Altec Voice of Theatre cabs replace the 4 Yamaha units (and these haven't seen the light of day for 4 years - damn things weigh a ton) Do you know the specs on these Greg? I heard a pair of these years back at a carnival I thought they were awesome looking and great sound. The guy who owned them knew nothing about them he won them in a poker game sparkieg 06-04-2008, 04:13 AM Do you know the specs on these Greg? I heard a pair of these years back at a carnival I thought they were awesome looking and great sound. The guy who owned them knew nothing about them he won them in a poker game Not right off hand Jeff. I do know this much though - they seem to be able to handle an enormous amount of power without even breathing hard. John Daniels had a pair years ago and swore by them. He ran his with separate tops. The pair I have has the largest slotted flared horn (with a huge throat design) I have ever seen on any speaker. I'll see if I can get the specs for you over the next couple days. I'll have to pull the backs off of them - the last time I looked inside them, the specs sheet was glued to the inside of the back board. These things are ancient too - they came out of a church santuary several years ago. They measure somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 feet across the front, 3 feet tall bottom to top, and close to 2 1/2 feet wide front to back. I am attaching a crude drawing of what they look like from the front I made in Paint. Jeff Romard 06-04-2008, 04:26 AM Thanks Greg I did a quick search and didn't find anything on specs for them but I do remember the thump coming from them when I heard them would tear the hell out of my Earthquakes and the quakes ain't no lightweight Jumpin' Jeff 06-04-2008, 08:55 AM Powered! Someone mentioned KISs, and use passive, I could say the same with powered. I really don't know how much simpler it could be. I've used both powered and passive, and powered fits me better, and IMO, is much easier to setup in it's current configuration. Power cords to wall, mount recievers, power up, and play! I don't even have to hide cables back to the main rig, cause there isn't any to hide. DJ Ducky 06-04-2008, 09:16 AM PASSIVE I've heard too many bad things happen with powered speakers, whether they're Mackies or JBLs. I think that too many DJs rely solely upon the internal amps and EQs of these speakers. A common problem I have heard is that all of a sudden, the bottom drops out. Of course, all that DJ can do (and typically does) is jack up the volume. Even if they have a woofer, the change is very noticeable and the sound becomes very top-heavy. Mine is a more traditional setup. For each pair of passive speakers I use, I dedicate one amp. Of course, the signal is processed further...I have an amazing techie working with me. :) Kreation 06-04-2008, 11:56 AM Powered!!! NX750P's and LS800P subs. I couldn't handle carrying my 13lb QSC PLX2 1804 amps, LOL!!!! Garret214 06-04-2008, 05:28 PM I run both passive and active. My mains are active QSC 153i which are tri amped. The QSC HPR speakers are loaded with QSC RMX amps. No cheap crappy amps here. My subs are passive. I'm using a Peavey CS 3000 amp on them. This amp can dump 2000 watts into one of my Yorkville LS 808 subs. If I daisy chain two subs. My bass can hit peaks of 140 db. I have had people tell me to turn it down because their chest was hurting from all of the hard hitting bass. :sqwink: DJ Wes 06-04-2008, 05:42 PM I run both passive and active. My mains are active QSC 153i which are tri amped. The QSC HPR speakers are loaded with QSC RMX amps. No cheap crappy amps here. My subs are passive. I'm using a Peavey CS 3000 amp on them. This amp can dump 2000 watts into one of my Yorkville LS 808 subs. If I daisy chain two subs. My bass can hit peaks of 140 db. I have had people tell me to turn it down because their chest was hurting from all of the hard hitting bass. :sqwink: Just be careful. I know a guy who used to roadie for large concerts and had to give it up because he twice had a lung colapse as a result of heavy, hard hitting bass. :sqeek: DJ Cam 06-04-2008, 06:15 PM If someone local sold the active Turbosunds and I could demo them I would consider going 100% active but it seems that I will remain passive for a long time to come. DJ J Mac 06-04-2008, 07:51 PM Go passive...woohoo! If you can control them correctly, no powered speaker rig can touch a passive rig in terms of quality, flexibility of sound and adjusting to your venue and crowd. Steve Cie 06-04-2008, 10:50 PM I used passive speakers for 30 years. I always feared having an amp failure in a powered speaker, and then not being able to use the speaker to complete the gig. I now run two SRM 450 Mackies and an 1801 Mackie Sub. All I can say is I wish I switched to active years ago. They work well for me. The sound is very good, and I am very pleased with them. My old passive system with amplifier is out in the trailer as back-up if I should need it. Bill Kexel 06-04-2008, 11:48 PM [QUOTE=DJ Ducky;172624]PASSIVE I've heard too many bad things happen with powered speakers, whether they're Mackies or JBLs. I think that too many DJs rely solely upon the internal amps and EQs of these speakers. A common problem I have heard is that all of a sudden, the bottom drops out. Of course, all that DJ can do (and typically does) is jack up the volume. Even if they have a woofer, the change is very noticeable and the sound becomes very top-heavy. QUOTE] You've heard. I've heard this BS too. I've owned the same powered speakers for 7+ yrs & have NEVER experienced a single problem. I used to use be a Passive DJ & had several problems.... never again. Fred Stewart 06-05-2008, 12:40 AM Let's look at a little history on these things (passive speaker systems). In the early years, some of 'em were junk right out of the box. A few bad experiences tainted the concept for many. In all honesty, the bugs have been worked out and these cabs can do a fine job when used for what they are designed to do. That being said, nothing ~ and I mean nothing can substitute for basic PA fundamentals. For instance, a 300 watt active cabinet can't be expected to do the job when a 700 watt active cabinet is needed. Whether passive or active, everything has a limit. Push any system beyond its limit and it's gonna break. | |