My Review of Power CD+G Burner

First let me say I do not work for and am not being paid to endorse this product. The views stated here are my views and don't necessarily represent the views of ODJT

Power CD+G Burner from www.powerkaraoke.com is a multifunction karaoke ripping program. This program gives the user the ability to copy from original disc to CDR for archival purposes, rip to PC formats (BIN, wav+g, mp3+g & zip) or create compilation cdg disc's from the pc file formats (wav+g or mp3+g).

After I purchased this piece of software I was pleasantly surprised that every disc that I ripped using it gave perfect results. So I went ahead and re-ripped my entire library over again whether it showed graphical errors or not.

Out of the 300+ discs that I re-ripped from I only ran accross a few errors.

One was due to using a sharpie pen to number a disc that only had a silver surface (btw sharpies will eat through the silver over time) but this only affected one track from that disc.

The second one just simply would not read in either drive that I had with this program, it did however read using audiograbber and resulted in minimum errors, which I can live with.

The third disc, a sweet georgia brown disc #3, gave me graphical errors no matter what program I used to rip it with. This I'm thinking is due to the fact I can't slow my drive down bast 12x which is a major contributing factor to all bad rips no matter what program is used.

Now I am the proud papa of as near perfect pc collection as anyone could want... other than the files metioned above you would be hard pressed to tell if I was playing from a disc or a computer file. And even though my karaoke library may be small compared to some I feel I have an edge over my competition in that you can read the lyric screens on 100% of my collection.

The third disc, a sweet georgia brown disc #3, gave me graphical errors no matter what program I used to rip it with. This I'm thinking is due to the fact I can't slow my drive down bast 12x which is a major contributing factor to all bad rips no matter what program is used.



Point of interest: This disc (Jazz) is even difficult to make a DISC copy of. Must be done in 1:1 safe mode on my Quickdisc. This tells me that there are all sorts of encoding programs involved.

I would also opine that ANY copy of a disc for KARAOKE should be at the very worst 8:1. with a lower ratio preferred.

Point of interest: This disc (Jazz) is even difficult to make a DISC copy of. Must be done in 1:1 safe mode on my Quickdisc. This tells me that there are all sorts of encoding programs involved.

I would also opine that ANY copy of a disc for KARAOKE should be at the very worst 8:1. with a lower ratio preferred.

That's funny you have the same problem with the same disc... no I don't think it's anything special about the disc. It could be more related to the speed of the read.... coupled with maybe a slight warping of the disc itself...

What is Quickdisc?

Does 1:1 and 8:1 relate to speed or number of backups per original disc?

Have you tried Power CD+G Burner?

It'd be a great all around program for both the PC KJ and Disc KJ in that you could rip to PC or directly to CDR.

If you have tried it how does it compare to Quickdisc?

That's funny you have the same problem with the same disc... no I don't think it's anything special about the disc. It could be more related to the speed of the read.... coupled with maybe a slight warping of the disc itself...

What is Quickdisc?

Does 1:1 and 8:1 relate to speed or number of backups per original disc?

Have you tried Power CD+G Burner?

It'd be a great all around program for both the PC KJ and Disc KJ in that you could rip to PC or directly to CDR.

If you have tried it how does it compare to Quickdisc?


1) The QuicDisc is a hard media stand alone CDG burner / editor / error correction device. For actual discs, not for tranfer to MP3.


2) The ratios refer to the copy speed. In other words, 8:1 means that the copy is is made at 8 times the speed of the original music, though it plays back at (supposedly) 1:1. The higher the ratio, generally speaking, the more degradation to the copy, causing random frequency changes, timing shifts, etc.. This applies whether you are copying disc to disc or disc to MP3. Thus, the BEST copy speed would be 1:1, but of course this would take forever ( 40 minute side would take 40 minutes to copy). Though 12:1 MAY be acceptable for straight your straight music discs, if you have the option to slow it to 8:1 you will find that your copies' quality may be enhanced greatly.


3) I used Tyrrannosoft to rip my discs for PCKJ. However, I would be quite interested in seeing how well Power Burner works burning MP3s back to disc. THAT alone, if quality, would be a hell of a selling point for me...


4) As previously written, Power Burner and the QuicDisc are two completely different items. Nothing to compare..

1) The QuicDisc is a hard media stand alone CDG burner / editor / error correction device. For actual discs, not for tranfer to MP3.


2) The ratios refer to the copy speed. In other words, 8:1 means that the copy is is made at 8 times the speed of the original music, though it plays back at (supposedly) 1:1. The higher the ratio, generally speaking, the more degradation to the copy, causing random frequency changes, timing shifts, etc.. This applies whether you are copying disc to disc or disc to MP3. Thus, the BEST copy speed would be 1:1, but of course this would take forever ( 40 minute side would take 40 minutes to copy). Though 12:1 MAY be acceptable for straight your straight music discs, if you have the option to slow it to 8:1 you will find that your copies' quality may be enhanced greatly.


3) I used Tyrrannosoft to rip my discs for PCKJ. However, I would be quite interested in seeing how well Power Burner works burning MP3s back to disc. THAT alone, if quality, would be a hell of a selling point for me...


4) As previously written, Power Burner and the QuicDisc are two completely different items. Nothing to compare..


Ahh I see well in that case you might want to check it out then... from what I can tell when I did one of my discs as a direct copy I can't tell the difference between the original and the copy..... of course speed is important the slower the better and it doesn't have to be a two step process. Meaning you don't have to first rip to pc then copy to CDR you can do direct copy from disc to disc. Of course just like copying any CD it creates a disc image that it burns to the CDR.

I'll be honest though if your going to do this you might as well rip to your pc and run from your pc and keep the CDRs as archives.

This applies whether you are copying disc to disc or disc to MP3. Thus, the BEST copy speed would be 1:1, but of course this would take forever ( 40 minute side would take 40 minutes to copy). Though 12:1 MAY be acceptable for straight your straight music discs, if you have the option to slow it to 8:1 you will find that your copies' quality may be enhanced greatly.

What about MP3 to disc?

A few years back I copied all my albums to my PC in MP3 format, at 8x compression (8:1?) - Sometimes I make a copy of a disc or songs from several discs. So going from MP3 to disc (either MP3 or WAV format) is a slower copy speed still better?

What about MP3 to disc?

A few years back I copied all my albums to my PC in MP3 format, at 8x compression (8:1?) - Sometimes I make a copy of a disc or songs from several discs. So going from MP3 to disc (either MP3 or WAV format) is a slower copy speed still better?

Are you talking about just mp3's or mp3+g's?


What we are talking about is karaoke files and the ability to get as near perfect copy of the graphic file as possible which is what Power CD+G Burner does.

Any time you rip a CDG disc or even a CD to your computer no matter the format you rip to be it mp3+g (which is 1 mp3 file and 1 cdg file), mp3, wav, flac, etc... the speed of your drive is important.

Think of it this way remember the days of coping tape to tape how they had a normal mode and a high speed mode? In those days everyone knew that coping a tape at high speed like that created bad copies and while it was faster people realized that coping at normal speed gave you a better copy...

The same is true with CD technologies... the falicy here is that with CD you are just simply coping data which isn't quite true... first of all the drive has to interprit the CD-DA information and then convert it into a data file that the PC will recognize and at high speed this information can have errors causing things like audio dropouts or in the case of a CDG graphical errors in the lyric screens.

Now what Joe is talking about when he says 1:1 or 8:1 he his talking drive speed of drive one to the drive speed of another drive he is doing direct copies of discs without the PC middleman so to speak.

When you say you copied your albums to mp3 at 8x compression are you refering to the speed of your CD-Rom drive? mp3's are usually expressed in kps for example anywhere from 34k-320kps the lower the number the more compressed the file is and also the higher the chance of noticeable audio problems many consider anything less than 128k to be unacceptable from an audiophile stand point.

wav would be your best uncompressed format and is considered a lossless format however it also creates the largest file size.

Again speed is important here instead of converting from CD-DA to wav or mp3 you are now doing the reverse.

Hope this helps.

I'll be honest though if your going to do this you might as well rip to your pc and run from your pc and keep the CDRs as archives.

Depends what you call "right" :sqlaugh: I ONLY use the PC for a backup or for the teeniest of private events. Wouldn't be caught dead using it for a bar venue or decent size show. The old disc vs MP3 thing, plus I prefer the impression that a disc based show leaves on my clients and customers... No need to start that debate over again though. Just chalk it up to personal preferences based on my own experiences and let it be.....

Depends what you call "right" :sqlaugh: I ONLY use the PC for a backup or for the teeniest of private events. Wouldn't be caught dead using it for a bar venue or decent size show. The old disc vs MP3 thing, plus I prefer the impression that a disc based show leaves on my clients and customers... No need to start that debate over again though. Just chalk it up to personal preferences based on my own experiences and let it be.....


I agree but not quite sure why disc would be more impressive over pc... anywho personal preference I guess... nothing wrong either way.

Joker, I've heard you mention problems ripping SGB #3 before. I didn't realize that people had problems with that CDG. I ripped mine with MTU MicroStudio and a Plextor with no problems. (I ripped to a .bin file and used MP3+G Toolz to convert to MP3+G.) I think I ripped at "max" (about 30x or so).

Joker, I've heard you mention problems ripping SGB #3 before. I didn't realize that people had problems with that CDG. I ripped mine with MTU MicroStudio and a Plextor with no problems. (I ripped to a .bin file and used MP3+G Toolz to convert to MP3+G.) I think I ripped at "max" (about 30x or so).

Hmmm.... Power CDG Burner does rip to bin maybe I'll try that and see what happins... overall thought the rip isn't too bad it's just not perfect like the other rips... it's exceptable by most people's standards just not as good as the disc.

wav would be your best uncompressed format and is considered a lossless format however it also creates the largest file size.

Hope this helps.

I also hope that the file was decompressed BEFORE copying- ALWAYS