My new light

I just thought I would post this.

On a recomendation from John P. I bought an American DJ 150 Projector.

How do you like it?

How'd you get/make the gobo?

How'd you get/make the gobo?

It is very easy to make and uses transparency paper.

John P gave me a template that he uses. Simply type in the names and click print. Trim out the gobo and place it between the 2 pieces of glass.

Presto! You have a monogram.

John P does print 2 gobos and overlaps them to make the black darker but mine does pretty good with just one layer.

Where did you get it? link? price?

Where did you get it? link? price?

They were discontinued some time ago but you can still find new ones on Ebay.

I actually bought 2 of them. I liked it so well that I was afraid if it broke, I would need a replacement.

$155 + Shipping

Rosco Image Pro does an awesome job as well!

Rosco Image Pro does an awesome job as well!


You get what you pay for. It very well should do an awesome job by the time you purchase an ellipsoidal at about $350 and put another $250 into the image pro.

I had run all the options for over a year before I decided on this projector.
I looked at the Chauvet SX Gobo, Martin PR-1 and Imagescan, Goboman, etc. For MY money, there was not a better option.

I can include this as a free addon and don't feel the slightest bit guilty about it.

Briar - any chance you can post a link.....so many out there...want to get the right one......

Briar? Hello !!

Sorry Steve,

I'm not ignoring you, just waiting for another one to be listed on Ebay.

That is the only place that I have been able to find one (or actually 2 and I may have bought the last one).

This is the closest link I could find that will even show you what it is.

http://www.starlight-online.com/Projector150.htm

If I can find another one someplace, I will let you know

Just a thought here:

Has anyone ever typed to use a par can
and cut out his own gobo...???

I just bought this (only two left) for $65. I'm going to try and make my own gobo the way Briar described.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280164743139&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=018

I registered at the goboman's site... Will be buying the 75 watter. I wish the 100 watter wasn't too hot ( supposedly can melt the transparencies ) or I would have bought that.

Tyrone...there's a 250 watt bulb in that unit...Me thinks melted transparancies. I'm looking at the goboman as well.....

I registered at the goboman's site... Will be buying the 75 watter. I wish the 100 watter wasn't too hot ( supposedly can melt the transparencies ) or I would have bought that.


Papa, Have you actually seen the goboman 75 in use?

I saw it in Vegas last year and was not impressed at all. Several of the local DJs bought them there and now they are not happy with them either. (I will be happy to share their names if you want to talk to them)

I called Goboman when the 100 watt was released hoping it would be bright enough and they told me what you stated....it was too hot for transparencies.

I just bought this (only two left) for $65. I'm going to try and make my own gobo the way Briar described.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280164743139&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=018


Tyrone,

That fixture is the exact same as the Chauvet SX Gobo only I believe it will carry the "Eliminator" label. Alot of different fixtures are manufactured by the same company and American DJ, Chauvet and others will just place their label on it.

That fixture will be great if you have your gobos laser cut. It is bright and does a good job but I believe it will smoke a transparency due to the heat.

Just a thought here:

Has anyone ever typed to use a par can
and cut out his own gobo...???


You can do that but the edges will not be sharp and the image will not be clear. Projectors have an adjustable lens so you can focus and the image will be sharp.

Our own DJ Scottie has had great response and success with his simple Gobo man and posted pics if anyone cares to check his past posts.

Papa, Have you actually seen the goboman 75 in use?


No, but someone here had posted pics, and I thought it looked great for the price. Maybe I'll wait til Vegas and see if he is there before making a choice.

Thanks, Briar.

Our own DJ Scottie has had great response and success with his simple Gobo man and posted pics if anyone cares to check his past posts.


Yes, Scottie has done a wonderful job with his Goboman. But he does say that it does not do well on dark surfaces being only 75 watt.

This projector is 150 watt and still uses transparencys. This is most of the reason I decided on it.

Thanks Briar wasnt attempting to steal any thunder yours most likely is the best option but was pleased to see Scotties doing fabulous as well.

Thanks Jon... yes I have had great response with what I have been able to do with the Goboman 75w unit. I can create custom gobos easily and cheaply on my computer and printer.

Birar is correct, being only 75w it is not all that bright in a fully lit room.. however most of the time the lights are dimmed during a wedding reception. I also need to find a lighter colored wall, or ceiling to project onto. Usually this is easy enough... however there are times where the walls are a dark wood. I also have not been able to project onto a dance floor. I dont care much about the floor... once there are people on the floor, you can not see it anymore anyways.

If there is a unit that can use transparences and has a 150w bulb, I would like to get more information on it.... brighter would be nicer.. but again the Gonoman is only about $80. or so.

here are some pictures of what I have been doing with this baby: :sqbiggrin:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/travisandamba.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/eddieandtara.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/dinner.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/DSCF5632.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/RickandSue3DJScottie.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/DSCF4113.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/logoprojected.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/DSCF3070.jpg

They were discontinued some time ago but you can still find new ones on Ebay.

I actually bought 2 of them. I liked it so well that I was afraid if it broke, I would need a replacement.

$155 + Shipping

Was that for 2 units?? or one?? does this projector give you the option to rotate the transparency gobos??

any idea where they are being sold?

Thanks

...putting a transparency between two pieces of glass. If it melts, then it melts... I've got a few ideas how to tone it down too. I'll keep you all posted.

I thought I might put it on a light dimmer first, then try putting the transparency on the outside of the lens. We'll see...

SCOTTY... would you mind posting a picture of one or two of your gobos?

in order to get the gobo to focus, the gobo needs to be between the lamp and the lens.

As for pictures.. are you asking for pictures of what I have printed from my computer?

I will do you one better... here is the word doc that I use to make them.

Was that for 2 units?? or one?? does this projector give you the option to rotate the transparency gobos??

any idea where they are being sold?

Thanks


Hey Scottie.

The $155 is per fixture.


The gobo is actually placed in what they call an "oil wheel". You can place several gobos in this wheel and rotate from one to another but the gobo itself does not rotate.

I bought both of mine new off Ebay.

And yes I am very impressed with what you have done with your Goboman. I had one in my hand at MBLV07 but the lame "no smoking" gobo that they had projected on the wall was less than impressive. I had no idea that it would have worked anywhere near as good as you have shown.

And yes I am very impressed with what you have done with your Goboman. I had one in my hand at MBLV07 but the lame "no smoking" gobo that they had projected on the wall was less than impressive. I had no idea that it would have worked anywhere near as good as you have shown.

Thanks... their sales person really wasn’t that great.. I don’t think they know that it worked this good... I should sell them some of my photos for marketing! :sqbiggrin::sqbiggrin:

mmm... that gives me a idea..... I’m going to be giving Mr. Goboman a call this week!!! :sqwink:

I posted your photo and description on another site (I gave you credit), and was told that the image was bogus. The responder said there was no way those pictures are real. I have to ask, is this the 100 watt unit, and are they all normal pictures? He claims he's seen one and they're not that bright. The first shot looks almost like a spot light... any comments?

I am truly considering getting something like this.

Tyrone, Scottie uses the 75 watter.

T, I can vouch for Scottie since I've seen his light in use and it works good. He has the 75 watt unit. Whoever said Scottie's image was bogus should be put in his place for talking about something they know absolutely nothing about. Loser...

I flew back from Vegas With Scottie holding the light in his lap. Whoever made those comments obviously is one that belongs on other forums.

Steve how did your Wedding go Im gonna post pics of my Halloween Pub Gig it was slammin.

So wait, will the par can work?
Has anyone tried it/ does anyone have a picture

I dont think a par can will work. It would need some sort of lens after the gobo to focus the image.

As for the pictures... ya, I phoptoshoped them all just to get a bunch of DJs that I dont know to say nice things about me... hehehee - as if I have that kind of time! Tyrone... they work great in a lower lit room... Dinner, Dancing lighting.. they work on a lighter colored wall or ceiling. They will not show up on a darker walls, or in a sunny room.

Really, they are all pictures using the 75w Goboman projector.

Here is another one from last Sat night.


http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/dance1copy.jpg

That's Cool...!!! A

I love that you can make your own Gobo's...

I don't know if 100 watt would any better but
200 or 300 watt would but then I don't think you make your own Gobos...

Scottie, are those Gobo's you made on paper...???
and how are they held in place...

Thanks...

Sorry about asking about Par Can...
Len is the key word here...

BTW: I like the colors you used in your business card,
it is somewhat I my new cards...
I nice logo too...

:)

That's Cool...!!! A

Scottie, are those Gobo's you made on paper...???
and how are they held in place...


:)


the gobos are printed onto a clear transperency, on a ink jet printer. The GoboMan unit has an holder to hold the gobos... I add a snall strip of good ol gaffer tape to make sure it doesnt move... :rofl:

thanks for the nice words about my logo, and card.... Hire a PRO.... it works!

Hey, I just notice the transparent logo too
I didn't notice that one before...
Very nice job...

Here is a look at my business card...
I like your better... :)

As far as the paper again, (sorry)

Would this one work... ???
Paper-Backed, Clear Transparency Film by 3M, PP2410, 100/Pack

I found this at my local Office depot here in CA.

I just bought the 75W goboman. Hopefully I will have it for next week. For $93 including shipping, and based on Scottie's photos, I'm willing to give it a go!

And, Hank ( RLP ), it will be added in to my new price.... more value for the higher price. :sqbiggrin:

Here is what I use: Staples Transparency film for ink printers.

And as a special bonus for those here on ourdjtalk only..... here is an attachment for what I make up on word. You should be able too open it, and just change the text for what you want.... leave the black background.

when you cut it out.. I leave about 1/2 inch of clear showing on the top and bottom.. and I shave just a bit of the black of the sides. then it fits just right.... again, a small strip black gaf tap works nicely to hold the slide in place.

Ive contacted the GOBOman and asked him if he was interested in some of my pictures to promote his product on the web or in Vegas. I havent heard back from him yet, but if you all let him know that I was helpful with the purchase... it could work in my favor.... Im trying to get a deal for 10 of these! :sqcool:

SO, I got the goboman light yesterday. I set it up and it was very nice for the price. I got nice, clean edges, and reasonably bright. I even had the image about 5' wide.... I was quite happy.... then after about 3 minutes, the lamp blew out! :sqfrown:

Guess I'll be calling the goboman on Monday.

Or you could go to Home Depot tonight and grab a new bulb...

Or you could go to Home Depot tonight and grab a new bulb...

Shouldn't a bulb last longer than 3 minutes? Is it even a regular bulb? I never opened it up to look.

I've noticed that the bulbs that came with my Chauvet type lights from the factory are not very good quality and don't last long. I replace them with Osram and they last and last and last and last.... You get the idea!:)

hey steve, do you get those light bulbs for your Chauvet lights from home depot??

BTW.... Im still using my origional bulb that came with my Goboman light.

Scottie,

What do you charge the B&G for their name in lights?

Well that’s a funny question....

Normally I try to get $75.00 . That is the advertised price... however, I have included it for free to secure the deal.... this happens more times then not. SO I usually included it for nada, if they book with me now... kind of thing.

Canadians don't wanna pay extra for nothin'!
Scottie, you can get the 2-prong 50 & 75 watt bulbs at Home Depot but not the 250 watt bulbs for the Omega's or any other DJ type fixture.

Most people are cheap and as you know most all DJs are worst than the customers they bitch about. When buying my Denon Gear I didnt say umm how much of a discount can ya give me. Though knowing ballpark price on each piece of equipment I told my preferred vendor and sponsor here Ben at NLFX to send a HD2500, x900 mixer, tfuhrman unit the 4500 CD deck unit and the audissey case etc he asked me if I wanted the price. I didnt need one I knew he would take care of me and even if it was more than x Y and Z I could care less cause I know he will take care for a lifelong relationship versus a five minute sales call to get my bank card info etc. My point is perceived value is so different than lasting Value..
Canadians don't wanna pay extra for nothin'!
Scottie, you can get the 2-prong with no surround 50 & 75 watt bulbs at Home Depot but not the 250 watt bulbs for the Omega's or any other DJ type fixture.

its not that Canadians dont want to pay for the extras.... its just after paying for the Beer... there's nothing left! :sqeek:

Yeah thats why I keep my American Green Card LOL so I can go buy it across the border without Duty.

Scottie,

One more question. What color is the unit that you use for weddings? (black or white)

I use the black unit... here are a few more pictures from last week. the lights were still up quite a bit durring dinner:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/goboprojector.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/nameonwall.jpg

Canadians don't wanna pay extra for nothin'!
Scottie, you can get the 2-prong 50 & 75 watt bulbs at Home Depot but not the 250 watt bulbs for the Omega's or any other DJ type fixture.

Really? Cool... I'll have to check.

I scrapped the first projector I had, cause it didn't work. I just ordered a "Image Pro" from Ben, and the slide or gobo is out on the slides a few inches, away from the front lens as shown.

As soon as I get it, I'll post some pictures, but the bulb is 300 watts. It has several accessories besides a rotating gobo holder and a slide holder that rotates between three 35mm slides. Ben assures me that it will accept transparencies.

I scrapped the first projector I had, cause it didn't work. I just ordered a "Image Pro" from Ben, and the slide or gobo is out on the slides a few inches, away from the front lens as shown.

As soon as I get it, I'll post some pictures, but the bulb is 300 watts. It has several accessories besides a rotating gobo holder and a slide holder that rotates between three 35mm slides. Ben assures me that it will accept transparencies.


now your cookin!! I really think that having a 300w unit that you can custom create your own gobos by way of transperencies would the the sure fire way to go! Im looking forward to the pictures, and feed back!!

Alright, who makes the "Image Pro"? Need to find more info on line.

I just picked up the one from IKEA and am very impressed with it's build, all solid metal and features a glass lens.
http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/10050674
It projects the stock steel gobos very well and soon I'll be trying it with a transparency made on my bubble-jet printer. It has a 50 watt bulb but can be replaced with a 75 is desired I believe... It's a standard Home Depot bulb.

I use the black unit... here are a few more pictures from last week. the lights were still up quite a bit durring dinner:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/goboprojector.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/nameonwall.jpg

Where can I get one of those and what do they cost....

The one at Ikea Canada is 57 dollars reduced from 65

http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/10050674

http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/10050674

Great only available in Canada but no numbers listed to contact for ordering.... grrrrrr.

Any available from the Yankee side?

Check the Ikea site or catalog in your area. Call them even they most likely have them not too many variations to Ikea.

For my American Friends
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10050674

its actually ten American cheaper.

Found a Yankee location... in IL

Still can't order online.... shipping from Illinois would still be cheaper then driving there... and it's only $50.00

there ya go buy the box of special paper for 20 bucks and you make instant custom gobos.

there ya go buy the box of special paper for 20 bucks and you make instant custom gobos.


That's what I'm thinkin... and I bet the Brides would go nutz for something so personalized like this.

DJ Scottie and Briar have had much praise for the custom gobos thus far.

Makes putting their names up in christmas lights look real lame.... lol:sqlaugh:

Ben has them and they are priced well below MAP of $569. The two bars that come out the front are low voltage bars that supply power to the clamp on accessories (and there's seven or eight available).

Of the several accessories available, are a drum roller, rotating gobo and three 35mm slide holder that changes slides at intervals... this unit is VERY cool and the only way to go for "real" gobo projection. Mine should be on the way any day now. And, it accepts transparencies.

Yes but at a price point above 500 bucks it's way out of reach for someone like me. I know buy cheap buy later buy expensive no need to buy later... good idea if your pockets are bottomless.

I like the Ikea one but question it's durability it looks like an install and never move again item more of say a home decoration rather than DJ light... any idea's on something in between the two.

its made of metal and Scotties has plastic pieces but he knows what it is and takes care appropriate.

so you have the ikea model?

How do ya like it?

I have to go to chicago, IL in order to get one so need to know if it's worth it.

Maestro got one today and was shocked how solid it is.

I looked at them today and most likely will be getting this one the special paper and a 75 watt bulb and a can of black paint at Home Depot and will be all set asides the details on the transfer program.

Guess I'll wait for his review of it.

It just has the look of some cheap party light like of which you might find at spencer's or wal-mart... know what I mean. At least the pic online at Ikea.com doesn't do much for it. I see that it is made of aluminum tho that's a plus.

I told you that fool. I also told you Scotties has plastic pieces.

I told you that fool. I also told you Scotties has plastic pieces.

I know, I know.... it just looks cheesy that's all.

What about the Goboman?

come on how much different does any of the projectors look?
Goboman is black or silver.

I was thinking of the Chavet SX-Gobo but that thing uses a 250 watt light... probably would melt transparencies....

so okay okay... i'll take a chance on the ikea since it is made of metal...

Maestro - tried the Ikea unit yet? put a 75w bulb in it?

Maestro - tried the Ikea unit yet? put a 75w bulb in it?

No need to... I pointed it across my 26 foot wide garage and the image was super bright, I was using the plain white multi-spot gobo that comes with it. My two garage doors have 8 small windows in total plus I had the over head lights on which consist of 5 bulbs ranging from 100 to 150 watts. I did this in the daytime. When JTV pops in today, I'll show him how good it is. The construction of this fixture is really nice which is a bonus! It also comes with 4 dicroic(?) color filters and adjustable iris for round and one for square.

dont forget the assorted gobos included

No need to... I pointed it across my 26 foot wide garage and the image was super bright, I was using the plain white multi-spot gobo that comes with it. My two garage doors have 8 small windows in total plus I had the over head lights on which consist of 5 bulbs ranging from 100 to 150 watts. I did this in the daytime. When JTV pops in today, I'll show him how good it is. The construction of this fixture is really nice which is a bonus! It also comes with 4 dicroic(?) color filters and adjustable iris for round and one for square.


Make a custom gobo...post a photo if you would.....

Thanks

I don't have any of that transparency paper but I will buy some soon...

I think Steve charges extra for custom logo's Steve L.

Hey Maestro customize a Superman or Squirt gun gobo LOL especially for Mr LeBlanc.

I'll give you that one Tuck....lol

Seriously though...I'll buy this light if it can do what Scottie's does.....

It will and its made out of metal with no plastic parts like the goboman... Scotties is excellent however this one in my opinion is atleast as good or better cause of the construction and a bit less at 57 Canadian Dollars or 47 US in the states.

...if it does a custom Gobo.......

you have to customize it like DJ Scottie Does on that expensive special transparency paper. Perhaps you can get kinko or office Staples or one of the office places to do you a sheet up if you give them names etc. Its virtually the same unit and after seeing it today it has a few distinct stronger points than the plastic Goboman.

I used the gobo projector this past Sunday and it was a big hit showing easily on the wall with all of the room lights on. the only issue I have with these is that you can only project it so far away and it becomes huge no shrink ability however you can make smaller medium and full sized fonts which should make it happen wherever you need to point it. I will post a picture once I bring it inside as I didnt take many pictures and forgot to take one of the logo.

Jon, you have the Ikea one?

yes
it works well.

yes
it works well.

I was afraid to try it as it is only 50W..... thanks.

if it had a 75 watt bulb it would likely melt the AV paper and it is plenty bright. How much better does it need to be when in a fully lit ballroom and very clear.

Any place the 75 watts bulb in the IKEA model yet...??

also has anyone try the trans paper with it...???

Thanks to all of you guys for posting your finding...

:)

I just notice that the GOBOMAN has a fan where the IKEA doesn't looks like it does...


*****

I found the 50 watt was more than enough in a fully lit ballroom I promise to post my Christmas pics in one thread soon and will attempt a pic of this find as well. it says use 50 watt max so for the fire marshalls out there I will comply.

I'm still waiting for my replacement projector from Goboman....

I'm still waiting for my replacement projector from Goboman....

What was wrong with it?

What was wrong with it?

Not sure, but it wasn't just the lamp... the fan wouldn't rotate for more than 1 second.

That's strange... Hopefully the new one will get there soon!

Mmmmm...
Goboman are in my area...
Well, if you care to drive for an hour...
Temcula is about a hour drive from Orange...
Did you try calling them...???
866-391-GOBO...

I really hope it works out for you...
I got a American DJ Light and love it so much that I got a second
but the second one wasn't anywhere as nice as the first plus
the fan stopped working too...
I drove it back to the dealer and
they found that the fuse wasn't the right amps...
They fit it and now it works fine...

Good Luck Papa...
but let us know what happens

Well, I see that Goboman makes the 100 watts now...

Scottie, I think they haven't call you because you would be cutting into the money they make by providing gobos...

Anyway, Thanks for your info...

*****
Has anyone tried the 100 watts...???

DJ Scottie,
How in the WORLD are you taping a piece of transparent film to the front of that projector and it's NOT melting? It's a 75w bulb getting MAGNIFIED too.

I have the exact projector and tried that and the slide started smoking, and melting in less than 1 minute. I even replaced the bulb with a 50w bulb to see if that would help. Nope...

What the heck kind of transparent film could you be using that is withstanding direct, magnified light/heat???

WOW!

Scottie stated:

Staples Transparency film for ink printers

Did you get the correct Transparency film...???

yep... Maybe my printer used flammable ink. :sqerr:

Let me know Harryg because I will be needing one of those soon and was thinking of going that way. I don't get ask for it but a few this year have so I need to get something soon.

I will get something after this year MBLV...

If you go lets meet up...

...an Image Pro 300. As soon as I get it, I'll make a gobo and snap a picture. This baby will take transparencies that you make on your computer printer, or 35mm slides.

I use the black unit... here are a few more pictures from last week. the lights were still up quite a bit durring dinner:

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/goboprojector.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/nameonwall.jpg

Scottie - I see you have your transparency paper right on the light. How do you keep the transparency from smoking and cracking. I bought the Ikea Light w/ a 50watt bulb...I turn it on and it starts smoking and eventually I get a whole in the middle...
I'm using 3M transparency film for Ink Jet printers...

Jon - How are you doing it.

Scottie - Question 2...In word....How did you create the duplicate designs.....across the page?

With what I saw, even with the 50 w bulb...this will work nice, if I can get it to stop smoking...

The transparencies that I have purchased (Im still on my first package) are the Staples brand Ink Jet transparencies.

The blub is inside this unit, and it has a fan. I dont believe that the Ikea ones have a fan. My slide is placed on the outside of the unit.. It never gets too hot, I have had it running 10 hour days (recently at a Bridal Show).

All I know.... it works. Dont mess with that works... If Goboman is at MBLV08 this year.... go get one, I use the 75w unit. If your there see if Steve Hoffman is there, I believe he is the owner. Tell him that Scottie from Vancouver, BC sent you!

Here is the goboman unit doing its thing again last night at a Sweet16.


http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/serupreduced.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/danceingreduced.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/goboreduced.jpg

As for question 2... I cut and paste the slide in word. that is how I create several on a page. then I go back and change the colours to create several chooices.

I guess you get what you pay for.....I've been playing with the IKea one a bit...As you side the slide holder out, there's less of a heat issue. I asuume Jon, this is what you are doing?

I'm going to play with the Ikea one a bit more; If I can't get it to do what I need it to do.....Goboman, here I come....

Scottie,
Where was the projector "located" in those pictures in order to get that sweet 16 slide to show so nicely? Was it behind the DJ area?

Yes, the GoboMan was set up on my DJ table. pointed up.:sqwink:

I got tired of worrying about melting and smoking slides. I bought an LED projector and LOVE it. Did I mention I LOVE it. Make your own slides. Zero heat issues and decent coverage. NO... It's not going to throw light like a Source 4 but it's 100's of dollars less money.

Here's a sample in normal house lighting about 15 feet throw.

http://hg-entertainment.com/Pictures/LEDProjector.jpg

I have a used projector that essentially collects dust...I thoght about that as well.....What projector are you using?

I got tired of worrying about melting and smoking slides. I bought an LED projector and LOVE it. Did I mention I LOVE it. Make your own slides. Zero heat issues and decent coverage. NO... It's not going to throw light like a Source 4 but it's 100's of dollars less money.

Here's a sample in normal house lighting about 15 feet throw.

http://hg-entertainment.com/Pictures/LEDProjector.jpg

What projector are you using here?

Nice job harry...

Well, I got the Gobo projector at the MBLV and it's work nicely...

Here is how I did it...

Film cut to fit inside the holder (the first slider near the light). move the slider away about an inch and it working fine... 2 hours with no problems so far...

BS-GOBO-100

Ya, I got the 100 watt version...

and Rebal was very helpful...:sqwink:


Thanks Scottie

That's great to hear!

That's great to hear!

Thanks but I didn't any LED projectors at the MBLV...

Boy, there were a lot of LED lights and MIC on sale...

After fine tuneing I still have a halo around the gobo...

Here is what I needed to do to stop the melting and smokeing...

I cut and placed the film on the two bar which hold the lens...

I place the first len about 1 1/2 away then the film about 1/4 from the first...

while I do get the text projected on the wall I also I'm getting that Halo which I can't delete... :(

More after I play cards with my family I missed while doing the MBLV...

Harry you were right but I was able to stop the melting...

...at great length at MB. He mentioned DJ Scottie several times during the conversation. Hmmmmmm...

He put an ink jet transparency right on top of the lens and left it on all day without a problem. While playing with the 100 watt unit, I could move the gobo out about an inch and still get a sharp focus with the other two lenses... I recommend it to anyone looking to make your own gobos. My Image Pro 300 melted everything I put on it, so it's for sale. Offers?

...at great length at MB. He mentioned DJ Scottie several times during the conversation. Hmmmmmm...


Well even though I did'nt make it this year, looks like part of me made it :sqbiggrin: That was nice of him to mention me.

I have been talking with MR. Goboman over the past month or so, and I have an order of 5 or 6 of theses going out soon. They have been a very nice up sell.

Scottie,

Just for the record, the 75 watt Goboman handles transparencies better than 100 watt unit. Is this true?

hey Ruben,

I have only used the 75w unit, but it works nice, and no melting.

I guess I need to call Tom or Rebel and try to understand why I cooked my film on the len and why when I was able to finally find a location (or distance away to the first len)
where it didn't melt the image wasn't all the good looking...

The black background started to crack so I use a lighter background but while it looked a little better I still was getting halo because of the len locations...

????

I will call and see if the film I'm or the inkjet printer wasn't what they (whoever) used...

So far, I can create the gobo myself to use with this Projector (I got the 100 watts btw)...

I have a little insight to the 100 watt goboman projector. I purchased the 100 watt unit at MBLV. When I brought it up to my room I took a closer look at it. I found that there were 100 watt stickers placed over the 75 watt words printed on the box. After examining the unit there were no stickers on the unit itself displaying any information. The paperwork from the box said the unit was rated for 75w/100w/250w halogen lamp x 1 supplied. I'm now figuring that all they did was include a 100w bulb and up the price $20 but it's the same housing.

The next day I asked the goboman these questions (no other customers were present at the time). He got very piss off with me for even questioning him. I wanted to know what the difference in the units were and not just the bulb. He said and I quote "I don't know, take the unit a part and find out". He went on to tell me that the 75w unit had a sticker on the back of the housing, the 100w didn't. He also said that China shipped the 100w units in the 75w box so it was easier just to make up his own stickers. While being very pissed off because I asked for an explanation he did tell me I could return the unit. I of course said no, that I just wanted to know what the difference was. He wouldn't look at me, talk to me, then just ignored me.

I don't know how the unit works as I haven't tried it yet. I read that DJ Scottie used it and like the unit so I thought I'd take a chance. I'm sure the light works just fine but I can only conclude this: The 75w unit and the 100w unit are exactly the same. They are putting in a 100w bulb and charging an extra $20. Stickers have been placed over the original box and the specs sticker has been removed from the back of the 100w unit which is probably the 75w unit.

If anyone who purchased the 100w unit has anything different please let me know.

Ron,

You asked a legitimate question regarding the product. The Goboman sounds like a butthead. I don’t deal with buttheads.

He acted as anyone would act, getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar. Prove me wrong, that's all I ask and I will apologize and go away.

Thats why we were able to chat so many times in the halls you say what you mean and mean what you say. Great attribute in my books. Thanks for the honesty we could use more.

Jon.....what's your experience with the Ikea light?

I find it's smoking the transparancy at 4 inches or closer...Then I have focus issues.....I'm about to make some modications to try and make this unit work (total cost - about 3 bucks)

I'd be happy to learn those modifications as well. Does it smoke with a 75w bulb? I know DJ Scottie never had a problem. Also, I wonder if it matters if the film is printed using an ink jet vs. laser.

Most be laser because ink jet show the grain when projected...

And running throgh twice in the ink jet only helps a little...

*****
He may be a butthead but she is nice...:sqrolleyes:

Here is what I was told by one of them...

I asked the same question becuase both units look alike...

"Can you change the wattage from 75 to 100"...???

"We are working to create that type of unit" was their answer...

the transparencies have a slight smoking but I put it on the other side of the glass and it helped it from smoking and my Ikea unit has only a 50 watt bulb but lit up the wall fine with the rooms lights all on. IT smokes initially slightly but then stops.

my issue with the Ikea and Goboman units are that they cant zoom out or in. This causes you to be held to moving the stand to a location to have it enhance the wall behind a head table or the center of the dancefloor or center of the dancefloor ceiling or the best place according to the room.

When I make transparencies, I print 3 different slides with 3 different sized fonts all on the same sheet of transparency film. This way, I use the one that will size the best based on where I place the projector.

smaller font makes bigger picture or vice-versa?

Time to look for an old overhead projector......How to hide it though.......

Smaller font for longer distances!

Small font for longer distances but the grain from the ink jet can be seen more...

Plus if it get a little hot you are able to see the cracks that the heat does to the film...

Time to look for an old overhead projector......How to hide it though.......


Ya, when I got my film they had those at the store and I thought about the same thing...:sqlaugh:

...at goboman and asked him to respond to the above concerns regarding wattage and smoking. I told him I'd post his response... stand by.

Thanks Tyrone,

Way to step up and do the adult thing by going to the source...

Let see what, if anything, comes of it...

Like they said in my state:

"I'll Be Back"


:)

Who didn't do the "adult" thing?

By that I meant...

I should of call myself but didn't...

I just put the light aside
after trying everything I could think of to get it to work
the way others shown they would doing it...

The Adult thing in my case would been to call and ask the big question myself...

Now that Tyrone has taken those step I think it is better to wait and see what answers he gets before I call myself...

Jon wrote:
IT smokes initially slightly but then stops.Do you inhale?


I did the adult thing in a professional manner on the show room floor at Vegas. I don't think he like it too much. My post says it all but I made sure he was alone, no other customers were around. Again, I know what the machine is, I know it's a cheap unit but I also just like to know exactly what I'm dealing with. After all I am the consumer, I have the right.

And by the way she was both nice and hot!:sqlaugh:

AAAAaaaaa......

You looked...

Ya, she was and I guess you can say...

She was smoking... :)

Interesting thread all...seeing that I ordered a Goboman 100W version in December. Haven't used it yet other than testing to make sure it wasn't DOA. Did anyone ever pick up a 75W bulb at Home Depot?

As for the melting, the folks at Goboman told me this in October 2007...

We use slides in the 100W unit often. Make sure that the slides are affixed to the front of the first lens, not behind it. The glass will help deflect some heat. you can also move the first lens a bit farther out, leaving a gap beween it and the body of the unit. This further allows heat to dissipate. Have an extra slide on hand for longer projection times, just in case.

Booch

Dang I found my way setting it up without that valuable info and on a 56 dollar replica of the Gobo man bought at Ikea and yes after seeing it this yr my unit is more durable. IT is Silver almost a brushed look. I stopped by the booth and even told him the 56 Dollar Ikea model was very similiar and basically the same units. Mentioned Scottie and all his free adverting for the goboman. The guy seemed like a real Tool. But who am I to judge.

Interesting thread all...seeing that I ordered a Goboman 100W version in December. Haven't used it yet other than testing to make sure it wasn't DOA. Did anyone ever pick up a 75W bulb at Home Depot?

As for the melting, the folks at Goboman told me this in October 2007...

We use slides in the 100W unit often. Make sure that the slides are affixed to the front of the first lens, not behind it. The glass will help deflect some heat. you can also move the first lens a bit farther out, leaving a gap beween it and the body of the unit. This further allows heat to dissipate. Have an extra slide on hand for longer projection times, just in case.

Booch

I did all of this and even created a metal shield like part to go between the first len to help reduce the heat but after a few minutes my film began to show it's age... ha ha

Bottom line here is:

Ya, you can create your own gobo as a few said here but
no one claimed that they were only to be as nice looking as Scottie's pictures showed...

I worked from very angle I could think of but
at the end the heat WON.

Now I have a 100 watts Gobo light with I could upsale
and order a steel gobo for any client who pays the price...

Did I loose anything...???
Ya, just little trust in a few people...
No problem because that doesn't kill me only makes be stonger...
I also learned who are my real friends and who I can really trust...

Gobo Light = $85
Film to create my own designs = $33
Finding out who I can really trust and call my friends = priceless

:sqcool:

...order a steel gobo for any client who pays the price...

That's primarily what I'm going to do. If they ask if I can project a gobo for them, I'll just have them order it.

Booch

mine worked flawlessly and brilliant same as Scotties unfortunately I didnt have time to snap any pictures since I was head cook and bottle washer plus a detailed MC. I too used a shield to keep the wash from spraying over. It did the trick.

I haven't posted in this thread for sometime now since it turned into a goboman and a DIY thread.

But I thought I would post another quick shot of the last bridal show that Sandy and I did. It was very bright in the room and my little 150watt light still did very well. My transparent gobo was still in fine shape even after the 5 hour show. No smoking, No melting.

Just thought I would also share what a great marketing tool it is to have this at a show. A couple from the last show could not remember our company name or find our card but they remembered our monogram and were able to look us up on the net that way..

excellent Bob!!

Thanks for coming back to check out what has gone on since you were here last...

Sorry, I didn't your post better about some dj in Las Vegas not being happy with the Goboman light. I have couple there that also tolk me that they got them last year and
while they didn't last long they were able to upsale for a while...

Note to self...
"Take your time and read others post"

hee hee...

CatDog,

That may have been me, but I didn't say I wasn't happy with the light. I said I wasn't happy with getting taken for an extra $30 for a $3 bulb. The light is exactly what it is, a cheap low cost toy. But it works fine. Even the goboman said the same thing. I just stunned him when I questioned the difference between the 75w and the 100w units. He was putting stickers over the 75w boxes to make them appear to be 100w units. Slimmy little trick.

Will I hope you got 100watts bulb...

Where do you get $30...???

They were selling the units for

$75 for the 75 watts units
$85 for the 100 watts units

I think the bulbs are about $10 for 3 bulbs at home depot...

I too said that at the end I got a gobo light but
That wasn't what I thought I was getting.

Wow, I just read the whole thread and am ready to jump on the bandwagen! I've got 3 sweet 16s comming up, and the option of projecting the girls' names is great. From what I've read, the Goboman 75watt looks like the all around best choice, but just to clarify, did anybody have any problems with the 100 watt version over the 75 watt version? Someone said cracking of the ink and a halo of light, others said it was fine.

My Ikea wannabe is only 50 Watts with the AV paper even it has a slight heat factor.

As a business man, he should have answered my e-mail by now. By not doing so, I'd have to assume that he has something to hide and didn't want to respond.

I was ready to order a few of them, but am now looking for another option. His irritation at one or members at the show and lack of response to my inquiry, leads me to believe his claims about the unit are not what they seem.

However, I agree... she was HOT!

His irritation at one or members at the show and lack of response to my inquiry, leads me to believe his claims about the unit are not what they seem.


Totally agree!!! If somebody has another source, please tell us.

Wow as this topic is floating around on another board also, and I had purchased one of these as the MB show also and doing some research.

My gobo was smoking the other night with the 100w bulb after 10 sec

I was told at the show that the 100w fixture can use a custom printed gobo

I took apart my 100 watt unit on Thurs night, it has a EFP 100w 12v mr16 halogen bulb in it.

I called Goboman on Fri to ask if I can use a 75w bulb in the 100w fixture and the girl said no problem, I asked what bulb was the one in the 75w fixture as there is a EXN and a few other ones depending on a flood or spot beam. She didnt really want to give me the info as she was being lazy and I said can you look at a replacement bulb and she said she had to go to the warehouse and would call me back. I have yet to hear back from her. I might call on Monday again

I called my buddy here in ct who has the 75w fixture and told him to open it and let me know what bulb is in it well it does not say anythinh other than 12v 75w


I called bulb america out of nyc and the guy there said he sees no problem putting a 75w bulb in the fixture as you are going down in watts and the ceramic base has nothing stamped on it.

I went to home depot today and lowes and wallmart, none have a 75w 12v bulb there.

So I will be ordering online tonight from Bulb America. I will prob get a spot and a flood, and there are a couple of types of reflector shells. I am going to keep experimenting.

Dave Parks Spin Doctor DJ

Thanks Dave for all your assistance and spending the money to figure this out. I tried buying a 75w last year and couldn't find one. I had to get mine on line at the same place I believe.

I would be interested in what type of bulb works for you.

I had made a gobo on the printer the other night. After putting it on it started smoking a bit. I could tell if it was just lint on the glass or the film. I didn't notice the film melting at all. I then pulled the first lens about an inch or so away from the machine. The next two lens focused nicely. I ran the unit for about 15 mins with no problem. I'll keep trying also.

By the way, don't hold your breath for an answer from Goboman. I think he knows we're on to him. :sqrolleyes:

Will I hope you got 100watts bulb...

Where do you get $30...???

They were selling the units for

$75 for the 75 watts units
$85 for the 100 watts units

I think the bulbs are about $10 for 3 bulbs at home depot...

I too said that at the end I got a gobo light but
That wasn't what I thought I was getting.Sorry, I can't handle the new math.:sqerr:

The 75w at the show was $65.
On his site they are $69

The 100w at the show was $85
On his site they are $99

I guess that's where I got the $30 from. On his site there is a $30 difference. Only $20 from the show price. Still, the bulbs are under $3 on line. I'm not faulting him for trying to make a profit, I just don't like being taken or deceived. Nothing I can do about it now but inform others before they buy so they know what they are getting. Placing the stickers on the 100w stickers on the box over the 75w is deceptive.

Are you sure the 100 watt version doesn't have a larger transformer rated for the bigger bulb? I know when I checked my Sparkle and Roto Gobo, the transormer that powers the bulb is rated exactly the same wattage as the bulb. In other words, there is no way you can run a 75 watt bulb in a 50 watt Sparkle. I don't understand why you guys are having so much trouble, Scottie's 75 watt unit works great! And yes, I've seen it in person... :)

My 50 Watt Ikea illuminates a fully lit ballroom floor or wall. Steve? You wanna concur?

When I talked to Steve... he assured me that ink jet transparencies would work just fine. He showed me the one he was using, and it seemed a LOT heavier duty than an overhead transparency film that I'm used to. Maybe the one he had on display was a laser transparency or heavier plastic... I don't know.

I called Ben and asked if he could shed some light on this subject. He told me that there isn't a "reliable" unit that he is personally aware of that properly handles transparencies, but he would do some research for the benefit of our members, and report back. Give him some time and he'll get us the facts.

Tyrone,

Thank you for taking the extra effort to get this information. I appreciate it.

Ben,
Thank you for helping us out. This shows what an upstanding businessman and person you are. This isn't even your product but you'll go above and beyond anyway.


I don't mean to keep harping on this but after reading all these posts I think the Goboman is somewhat of a snake oil salesman.

I don't know how to go about this but Mobile Beat should be aware of what many of us have experienced with this product. I don't believe the Goboman is a reputable, truthful, dealer nor should he be part of the vendors at this show. With so many new DJ's attending these shows, that's just another group of naive people he can sell to. Remember, we are the consumer, we have the right to question.


Steve,
Are you sure the 100 watt version doesn't have a larger transformer rated for the bigger bulb? I'm not sure. But then again neither was the guy selling the product. I was told to take it apart and find out for myself.

I think it comes down to what we were told was not the case. I know Scotties 75w works just fine. No one that I read about had tried the 100w. Since the salesman stated we could do the same with in regards to transparencies with the 100w, why not get a brighter bulb? Guess we were taken. For me thats just a learning purchase. Someday I'll learn "you get what you pay for". My intent was just to share my experience with anyone considering purchasing these units. This way they have correct and truthful information.

Thanks Ron and like a few others here I feel your pain...

I told was told that it would work with the 100w unit.
She even show me that they had some there do just that...

I'm sure you saw them. The showmen on a yellow background I think...

Anyway, the film was round with what looked like a paper border...

I should of looked harder at what she was showing me and less at her...

My bad...

*****
On a good note...
I sold my first Gobo to a client yesterday...
She loved the idea of see their names up in lights...

:)

Understandable CatDog!

Ah, the old bait and switch. Watch the pretty girl as they sell you what you cannot see. I fell for that as well.:sqerr:
Back a couple of months ago when guys were debating using the IKEA gobo solution and or the Goboman, I decided to get the Goboman because of Scotties work with it and because IKEA in my area were not helpful in getting a unit.

I simple called the "Goboman" via phone told him I had heard about certain models that looked alike 75W / 100W were burning tranparancys and he was very forth coming in suggesting the use of the 75 watt version although I was ready to spring for the more expensive model.

So at that time I told him what I was going to do and what I wanted to use it for along with what material I expected to use in it and got the answer of what product would be best (75 watt).

Your mileage may vary but I was content he gave me his best guess of what would work best.

This is to address the gentleman who walked into my busy booth at MBLV implying that I was cheating him and merely switchig lamps inside the GoboMan projectors and charging an additional $20.00, trying to pass the unit off as different.
Well I have never cheated anybody,and I am in this business for the long haul.

The units are different, and I offer anyone interested in seeing the interior pictures of the 75 watt unit vs the 100 watt unit. It is clear to see in the pictures or to anyone who opens their units that the 100 watt unit has two fans, also a much larger transformer, and different circuit board.I am happy to email you the pictures just let me know at steve@goboman.com
As for the stickers and boxes. they are not something I sit and stickon. The units are a low cost item and are not worth the cost of reprinting a new boxes. Any of you who have bhad to have anything printed before can appreaciate this.
I explained all of this to this person and offered a 100% refund, but still it was not enough, to the point that other customers in the booth felt uncomfortable. Yes, they called and told me.I welcome any questions any of you might have on either fixture preferably not in the middle of a busy trade show situation. If anyone needs help with where they are supposed to place the gobos properly or any other questions, please let me know.steve@goboman.com

Thank you Steve. I met you in MBLV, and I enjoyed the short talk we had.

I was the guy talking to you about DJ Scottie.

Ron, you have never once attempted to ask how to properly install the transparencies or even operate the unit for best results, but you assume you know the correct way, and it is most likely wrong.
You are trying to buy a $60 to 80$ gobo light made in China, and make your own gobos and then get the results of professional gear. Try buying a steel Gobo for $59.95.
If you think it is such a terrible projector and GoboMan should not be allowed to exhibit at MB go speak to Cubby from Mobil Beat, he has used the unit with great results and never bitched once.
As far as the light bulb goes, we get whatever the units ship with from China, and offer spare lamps for $3.95.We don't claim to be in the lamp business.
GoboMan responds to all emails, so stop claiming you never got an answer.
If I sound irratated its because of people like you Ron that never contact us directly but instead slam us online.

I am still waiting for anybody to take me up on the offer to see the pictures of the difference electronicly between the 100 watt goboman projector and the 75 watt GoboMan unit.
Maybe besides looking at the pictures, you want to put your money where your mouth is, and I will send you both units FREE and you can open them and look for yourself, then you can tell the truth for once and for all and look inside and tell us what you see. For that matter anyone on this board who has a 75 watt unit can tell you that there is only one fan, and anyone who has a 100 watt unit can tell you there are two fans in their unit without even having to open the projector.
Truth is ,you got an answer you didn't want to hear in the booth and it wasn't good enough for you so you had to go on and on. So try to step up to the plate and find out the real truth before you accuse people of using a bait and switch tactic or trying to profit from a $3.00 light bulb.
steve@goboman.com for pictures anytime
.

Would you explain which type of gobo you had right next to the lens on the unit on the table? When we talked, I wasn't exactly sure if it was an inkjet or laser transparency. Some here have commented that the ink on their transparencies is smoking and melting.

Here's an offer for you. Send me a unit to fully test and evaluate, and I'll send you back a check if I decide to keep it. If not, I'll send the unit back to you ASAP, and you can sell it as a demo.

I'll run it through everything as fairly as possible and test it in a club setting and I'll take pictures. If you agree, I'd be willing to let you use my evaluation for your own purposes or promotion. Fair offer?

Steve and Ron, while it was fine to present both of your sides, maybe now it is time to take this private? As most of us know, we strive for as little friction on this board as possible.

:sqbiggrin:

This is to address the gentleman who walked into my busy booth at MBLV implying that I was cheating him and merely switchig lamps inside the GoboMan projectors and charging an additional $20.00, trying to pass the unit off as different.Now this is the attitude of a business man I really want to do business with. Read my posts closely. You were alone. I gave you the respect of being alone. It was 12noon and the show just opened, no one was in your booth. I had a legitimate concern about a product that you could only answer by tell me to take it apart. You got all defensive about the sticker issue etc. I apparently was the only one who approached you with questions yet others here have had the same questions. I've had issues with other vendors and products before. I ask them questions, they give me answers. Non of them get all upset and worked up over it. You sell a cheap products, you even admitted it before selling it to me. I purchased it knowing it was a cheap product. Now I know better and have learned a lesson. Don't buy cheap products.

Ron, you have never once attempted to ask how to properly install the transparencies or even operate the unit for best results, but you assume you know the correct way, and it is most likely wrong.Stick around, you haven't read anything yet. And with your 3 posts you must know. Please show me where I said I know the correct way. Show me where anyone knows the correct way. Again, read these posts carefully before you make a statement. I never had a problem with the transparencies except for a little smoking, just working out issues like everyone else. I haven't had one burn up on me yet. Other guys have though. Why don't you try attacking them. This is not the only board others are talking about the working of this unit. I clearly stated of what you told me in Vegas to everyone. No exaggerations no lies. Just what you told me I repeated. It's in one of my first posts. I reported my findings that's it.

If you can't handle product reviews you should read them. We are the consumers and we choose what we buy. When we have issues, we the consumer will discuss it. If I was the only one here with these concerns I'd take a second look but as you can see on this board and others there are many more people.

Time to "chill" and give clear heads a chance to prevail. No more slamming permitted. I don't want to have to over edit any more posts.

We've heard both sides... now for some legitimate facts. Stay tuned.

Tyrone and the others,

Please except my apologize for getting a bit upset. Nothing futher needs to be said. Everyone here has done nothing more than try to understand the correct usage for this product. Thanks again for your efforts.

I have taken the unit apart and have found two fans and 100w bulb. I could not find any markings on the transformer. As I stated earlier, I ran a transparency for about 15 min. with no melting. The key for me was to pull the first lens a bit away from the housing. this allows air flow to move behind the lens.

Tyrone, your offer sounds great to me. All I ask is that you post the truth here on this site on what you find in your evaluation between the two units, the same place the negative comments were made.
People seem to have gotten confused by the Color Holiday Gobos on the table at the booth and the Gobos that you can make on your own computer at home. The color Gobo slides at the booth were not transparencies we made at GoboMan, as I mentioned they actually are part of a ourdoor holiday projector set that sells them every christmas, but they also fit the goboman light so I thought I would buy a few thousand of them and offer them them as an addittional option for the light. You saw at the show they did not smoke burn or melt. There was no snake oil changing of slides or anything shifty like that going on.
There were NO homemade gobos in the booth at the show. Dj scottie is the only one I know that has posted pictures of his homemade gobos. . but there were none present at the booth. There was just steel and the holiday colored slide gobos that were round and some custom steel ones. Those slides we showed were being placed in front of the glass on the first lens closest to the lamp. Transparencies go in the brackets on the first lens with the lens backed off about 1/2"on the 100 watt unit but not needed on the 75 watt unit. Can also depend on the colors used.

The thing is, we didin't start out trying to market a Gobo light unit so people could maketheir own homemade gobos, it was just something that came up during the first MB show talking with customers. After all, I am a custom gobo manufacturer primarily, so having customers make their own gobos at home isn't the greatest thing for business,but it is good for the light and makes the unit attractive to someone that can't afford to make a custom steel gobo for $59.95.

Cheap product. Yes, it is! I think any light fixture less than $100.00 is a cheap product. Will it work, that is another question. You get what you pay for and as with every purchase you have to look at the positives and negatives, is it right for what you do in your business.The thing is, that there are not that many units on the market that let you make your own gobos at all, if that is the way you want to go. Yes, maybe you could try a overhead preojector,
Product reviews I have no problem with, getting the facts correct is another thing. If I was concerned about product reviews I wouldn't offer pictures of the inside of the units, or units for evaluation.

Very glad to hear ALL the comments.

Gents...you'd be feeling a lot better if you knew what I paid for the 100W light back in December. At the time, I felt the price to be fair and was glad I made the purchase..and still am. We all miss a sale now and then...I just get to expense a few dollar more than you all! :sqlaugh:

Booch

Thanks GoboMan (aka Steve... ?)

I see the second fan inside the light blowing toward the front...

I have a design question which you or someone else can help me understand better...

100 watts has two fans:
The top one or the one you can see outside the unit blows out of the unit while the internal fan blows toward the light. The only openings are slots on the top. Knowing the heat rises would it be better with a few opening at the bottom of the unit to let air flow from the bottom to the top. What I see is that the internal fan pulls air from the top slots were the air is a little hotter than the air below the unit.

Is the internal fan design to cool the blub while the outside fan is used to pull the heat air out...???

I would think that by placeing holes or small openning on the bottom would
help more cooler air to pass through the unit.

Last note on design...
Having the rear blowing air hot toward the len
doesn't help cooling the first len...
ouch...
I just burn my finger...

(And the same thing happen to your wife...)

*****
If anyone missed it before, I sold my first gobo to a client and I hear her said:
"Ooo that is going to look cool seeing our names in lights."
So I had my money back for the light the first time I sold a gobo...

Ya, I was one of those who thought I could make my own gobo on the fly but at the end I don't have the time and don't want to mess around so I'm getting my money back for the film I got...

Not I'm head $33...

:)

I agree with your suggestions regarding placement of the fans. Better air flow from the correct directions inside the unit can provide not only longer gobo life, but lamp and electronics life also. I have made suggestions to the factory about better airflow and also quieter fans, but the sad fact is that there is just not enough volume being sold for them to justify making a new housing and mold. Sorry, but that is the truth. I thought of making holes in the bottom of the unit for better air flow, but is is blocked by the circuit board, and the back of the unit is blocked from the transformer block.

Ya, I saw those thought the top and front opennings...

I haven't try to open it yet but I may...

I totally understand about sold vs redesign...

Since we are talking about this unit here are the main points which led be to buy it...

>>> DJ Scottie review of the unit...
>>> DJ Scottie being able to create his own Gobo with color...
>>> The size the weight of the unit...
>>> and Lastly the price of the unit and the cost of replacement blubs...

The first day I got the unit I was happy...
The first time I try to get the film to work I got say...
The first client that ask about gobo for their wedding and having the unit right there to show off, I got happy again...
The first I heard a client sound excited about having their name in lights, got me very very happy...


Like a lot in the business of entertainment;
Having happy clients is our goal and
on that day having a Gobo light available to show off was great...
Did it help to land the job...???
In this cast no but it did get my client happier...
and that only cost me $85.00 but now $0.00

The their wedding isn't until August so I have a lot of time to order there Gobo which their took the gobo pdf sample with them...

So Far, So Good

:)

*****
I still would love to be able to create my own quick Gobo
so Steve if you have a step by step on how to I would
love to have it...

Thanks for post on this board...
and I still say you are one lucking guy...

:sqwink:

If you scroll down on the goboman page showing the 75 watt or 100 watt fixture, there is as downloadable pdf. of "Transparency Tips" showing needed sizes etc... If you need it emailed or faxed, just let me know and I will be happy to send it to anyone. I think the key I have learned from DJ Scottie and others that are making their own gobos, is to be able to get the blackest blacks for your background, this prevents light bleed through. Keep in mind the black ink in the background acts the same way the steel would on a steel custom gobo, blocking all the unwanted light.

Ya, I will check that out but black act in another way too...

Heat likes Black...

:)

*****
Here is the Link if others want to give it a try:

http://goboman.com/item.asp?cID=45&PID=567

Thanks again Steve for you help...

Ya, it doen't come down to three things:

First, the black better be really black to look nice...
Second, your printer better a nice printer...
Lastly, the paper better be nice film.
I'm using Mylar which I use at work for printing drawings...

Even with the better stuff it will not look as good as a steel Gobo...

I still am getting the halo effect because where I need to locate the film because of heat
Plus, I don't want to worry about smoking or melting.
If a client want it, I will only use the steel for now...

I have to many things to worry about without also
adding creating slides that make smoke...

Remember I'm got the 100 watts which
isn't the one that Scottie shown he was using...

I don't know if having 75 watts would work for me now...

It all comes down to
The right light using the right Paper printed on a nice printer...

If any of these isn't right than it will not look nice...

That what I have found using the 100 watts unit...

*****
Now I need to get back to what I do best
and that is DJ and selling my business...

It was fun (not really) but I need learn a few things...

Thanks everyone...

CadDog...
Over and Out

Scottie's is indeed 75 watts and he uses the cheaper, house branded transparency to print on. From Staples I believe... If you guys want your stuff to look like Scottie's then just get a 75 watt unit. I remember when Scottie checked with them, he told me that they suggested the 75 watt unit if he was going to be making his own transparencies, so that's what he bought. He's been happy ever since. OK, it's not all that bright but it looks pretty good and the gobos are cheap enough to make. Will a PR1 blow it away? Sure... But then you'll have to fork out the big bucks for each custom gobo and pass the cost onto the client. Not every client want to pay for these little extras but being able to throw in a FREE gobo is a good way to close a deal.

I think Scottie was the biggest seller of this unit with just his simple but effective use. He was the reason I purchased mine. I would however, if you are going to purchase either unit, to buy the 100w. For transparency gobo's all you need to do is pop in a 75w bulb. At Bulbs America you can buy them for a few bucks. Then when you wish to purchase a custom or metal gobo you can just put the 100w bulb back in. That was my reasoning for buying the 100w in the first place. I already had the 75w bulbs.

.... Sure... But then you'll have to fork out the big bucks for each custom gobo and pass the cost onto the client. Not every client want to pay for these little extras but being able to throw in a FREE gobo is a good way to close a deal.


Exactly my good man...

They sell bulbs in Home Depot.

They sell the bulbs in Walmart.

They sell the bulbs in Target.

They sell bulbs in Home Depot.

They sell the bulbs in Walmart.

They sell the bulbs in Target.
Only speaking for the stores in my area. The highest watt bulb of this type that they sell is 50w. On line you can get all types of flood, spot, etc. in different wattages. Plus they are a lot cheaper on line.

Only speaking for the stores in my area. The highest watt bulb of this type that they sell is 50w. On line you can get all types of flood, spot, etc. in different wattages. Plus they are a lot cheaper on line.

How 'bouts a link for us impaired folks?

Booch

Boy...!!!
This Gobo Threat is still going...???

:)

OK, dis for youd impared folks.

http://www.bulbamerica.com/50W-100W-473-cat.htm

:sqlaugh:

Caddog,
What are you selling a gobo for to make a profit if you now have to BUY a gobo?

Harry, I am asking $200.00 for a custom gobo, so far no bites... This would be using a Martin PR1.

Harry, I am asking $200.00 for a custom gobo, so far no bites... This would be using a Martin PR1.


This is why I REALLY hestiate on buying a quality gobo projector.

Ok I got the 75W 12V Bulbs. 5 Bulbs with shipping $6.97 on ebay. If I ordered out of NYC it was $9.95 for shipping alone plus any bulbs.

The 75W bulb will work in the unit made for 100W. The first custom printed gobo I tested didnt smoke.

The 2nd one started to smoke slightly. I need to play around with the ink, I want to try to make one on a laser printer and do some more tests. That will happen after I make it though a busy weekend


Dave Parks Spin Doctor DJ

Remember that the 100w unit has that second fan which blows toward the len
which could be adding heat to your film which wouldn't be there with the 75w unit without the second internal fan...

Just a thought...

Remember that the 100w unit has that second fan which blows toward the len
which could be adding heat to your film which wouldn't be there with the 75w unit without the second internal fan...

Just a thought...

I'd say that's a fairly decent assesment of what may be the root cause for those buying the 100w unit....

If.... I get one I'll be getting the 75 watt'r... since that is the one most are having the best results from....

Actually, the 100w unit has a fan inside that draws air into the unit from the front lens. It then has the second fan that exausts the air out the top. At least that's how my unit works.

Scottie's works great and if I buy one, it will be the 75 watt version as well. :sqbiggrin:

OK, dis for youd impared folks.

Tanks for da linx Ronn.

Booch

Ron, I will have a look again today...

hmmmm. $200 for a gobo. That's about 20% of the cost of the average DJ. For a name.... in lights..... on a wall...... hmmmmm. okay..... With a profit for the Dj of about $100 bucks.

OK, Ron you are right...

The internal fan does suck and doesn't blow as I thought...

Dang that light is hot...

No way is any film going hold up to that heat...

I can't see how the 75w being any less hotter...

CatDog,
Try pulling the first lens away from the housing about an inch. This will still allow you to focus using the other two lenses. At the same time you're creating airflow around the lens and making it a bit cooler. I ran a transparency for about 15 mins with no melting. This is not rocket science, just trial and error.

Ya, I did that and was able to do it but
like you said 10 to 15 minute
and it starts show its age...

I just don't want to mess around with it anymore...
I doesn't look and feel save...

Where you able to change the blub to 75w and run the unit longer...???
If so that would be the way to go if you have low light levels...

Printing the film is the other point which I have made better...
At work I have a 600 dpi Hp Color printer which creates great slides...
The blacks are black and the colors come out great...
The mylar is a little thicker than the film you buy which
reduces the amount of light through it...

It is comes down to a balancing act
which again I just don't have the time to mess around with...

I have had fun playing with it and
have gotten near what Scottie had but just not as good...

Let me know about the 100w to 75w conversion (anyone)...

:)

Jesse,
I'm confused. Are you getting OUT of the Gobo business? Or, are you purchasing $85 metal gobo's for now on?

Just thought I would take a minute to say Thanks Briar

I got my American DJ 150 projector and made some gobo's off the template you provided, I am very happy with the results and just thought it appropriate to say thanks so much for the heads up and the assistance.

Jesse,
I'm confused. Are you getting OUT of the Gobo business? Or, are you purchasing $85 metal gobo's for now on?


I never was in that business...

I had my 100watt unit in the den and had a client want it...

I told her it be $150 she jump on it and wanted her name up in lights...
The guy said; "Whatever you want its ok with me."

So I got my money back on the 100 watt unit and a happy client...
I don't think I'm going to mess around with the light by taking it apart
unless I need to add a blub...

Once she asked about it all I need to do is
insert the "WELCOME" steel gobo which comes with unit and she was sold...

*****
Goboman...???
Here is an idea...
How about provide a Gobo sample with "Steve & Rebel" add a date like 12-25-07...
We can show our clients...
Not to many girls named Rebel in the world... :)

Goboman...???
Here is an idea...
How about provide a Gobo sample with "Steve & Rebel" add a date like 12-25-07...
We can show our clients...
Not to many girls named Rebel in the world... Maybe not but some guys down south might consider marring their dogs named Rebel.:sqembarrassed:

WOW... go off the boards for a few months (been busy booking up the year) and lookie what happens. After reading everything, I thought Id post up in more detail what I have been doing to get the results from the GoboMan unit that I purchased at MBLV07.

First off I really wasn’t sure if I should even buy one... the do look cheep, and at $80. I was expecting cheep. But as Steve mentioned about my transparencies... I do like CHEEP stuff.... ok, so my wife thinks Im cheep to:sprolleyes:

I bought the 75w unit..... I have no idea why you all are going out and buying the 100w unit?

I went to Staples and purchased a package of their house brand transparencies #sl5257 (for Canon, Epson and apple INKJET printers... because I use a Canon PIXMA ip4200 inkjet printer. This printer is good for printing pictures at home.

I create a 2"x2" black box on word, and I use the word art to create white names in the box. when Im happy I click print....... HOWEVER I also go into the printer settings, and change from 'normal' printing to "FINE" ... THIS IT THE KEY TO MAKING THE BLACK BACKGRUND ..... BLACK! I also change the paper from 'paper' to TRANSPERENCY.

I could imagine that if you were not printing correctly, you might have gotten a bad background... or some other undesired effect.


I find that if I project 30-60' I get very nice results... further, the image is very large, and not as bright as I might want.

Here is a promo video that I use, in it you can see a few shots of the name projection in use. http://www.grmusic.com/GRMwedvido.wmv

I hope this helps some.... If you went and did something other then what I have been doing, and it isnt working.... I cant help you. :spkiss:

I know this thread is old but, I have a lady interested in a gobo projection of her daughter's name for her sweet 16. I really want to pickup a goboman, but, I'm not sure if the 75 watt version will be bright enough. I was going to go with the 100 watt version until I saw this on goboman's website:

"GoboMan does NOT recommend using homemade Gobo transparencies in the 100 watt unit"

I would be making the gobos out of transparencies.

Does anybody with the 100 watt version have any insight? I could just get steel or glass gobos made, but, thats a hassle and if I can avoid it I want to.

.....

"GoboMan does NOT recommend using homemade Gobo transparencies in the 100 watt unit"

I would be making the gobos out of transparencies.

Does anybody with the 100 watt version have any insight? I could just get steel or glass gobos made, but, thats a hassle and if I can avoid it I want to.

I spoke to the goboman in Vegas... 100 watts melts the transparencies.

The 75 does a much better job than I expected.

I spoke to the goboman in Vegas... 100 watts melts the transparencies.

The 75 does a much better job than I expected.

Thanks Papa, I'll just order the 75 watter and if its not bright enough I'll figure something out for next time.

Brian... Please read my directions carefully!! One trick that is very important, before you print, go into the printer preferences, and set the graphics to FINE, or set to the Highest DPI available. This is the trick to make the black background BLACK!!!!

If you would like my sweet 16 gobo, I have it in a word doc, and I can email it to you


http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/goboreduced.jpg

Brian... Please read my directions carefully!! One trick that is very important, before you print, go into the printer preferences, and set the graphics to FINE, or set to the Highest DPI available. This is the trick to make the black background BLACK!!!!

If you would like my sweet 16 gobo, I have it in a word doc, and I can email it to you


http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j102/deejayscottie/goboreduced.jpg

Thanks Scottie, I'll PM you.

The Gobofolks said you can use a transparency in the 100W unit...just have to move the lens with the "holder" away from the main unit...though I haven't tried it yet.

If a bride & groom want a gobo, I tell them to order it from Goboman...then I don't have to worry about using a brighter bulb and they get to keep the gobo as a momento...se attached...

Booch

I have the Goboman 75 watt. Everytime I tried it. I just didn't like the quality that I was getting. Its probably the ink or transparency that I use. I decided that if I do this then I don't want to worry about burning film or ink not good enough.

So I Will go with the Mania PR1 next year it will look good in our setup and I will just charge to have the gobo made. If I can have them made for 50 to 80 dollars I will charge 100 dollars and pay for my mania eventually. We use the EFX 600's so it will fit in our look. It will be the centerpiece in the truss if you used.

Dave - Why a truss?

2 600's and the PR 1 would sit on a T bar and be so much more compact and easier to set up and load in out....

Is there a T bar that would look good and be able to hold that kinda weight. I think you also own them don't you. They are like 45 lbs each. When I bought the dura truss I was going to get more light but I found that having the 2 EFX gave me all the lighting I needed.

According to Martin, they weigh 36.4 lbs (I know...as we grow older, it seems heavier..lol). The PR 1 weighs 19.8 lbs....91 lbs...

Here's the T Bar I use:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Hercules-Stands-LS700B-QuickNEZ-Crank-Light-Stand?sku=453074&src=3SOSWXXA

Rated at 100lbs.....With two identical lights, the stand would be balanced...The PR 1 in the middle....

The cranks work excellent; this is a good, durable stand (I use 2)...you can put speakers on them as well....

There is this as well....I'm assuming it's rated at 100lbs....

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Odyssey-LTP8PRO-Crank-Light-Stand?sku=451010

Dave; for what you have, this would make you set up neater and more versatile.....the T could actually go behind you, as with the Bose....there is nothing blocking the lights...

Sometimes you get what you paid for...

One time use:

I used the Gobo Projector Once and lend it to a friend and at the event the bulb went out...:sqmad:

He paid $60 for the gobo and never got to show it...

Good thing was that the client never missed it...:sqerr:

I just sent away for replacement bulb from
BulbAmerica.Com (4 bulb at $12 plus shipping = $22)

I have another event where the client want their names in lights...
I hope with the 4 bulb I can be ready to replace one if it goes out at the event.

I order the same size just to make sure I don't have any problems...

(EFP 100 W/ 12V MR16 HALOGEN BULB)

Wish me luck...:sqembarrassed:

Does anyone have a current link to the IKEA lamp?

I have the Goboman 75 watt. Everytime I tried it. I just didn't like the quality that I was getting. Its probably the ink or transparency that I use. I decided that if I do this then I don't want to worry about burning film or ink not good enough.

So I Will go with the Mania PR1 next year it will look good in our setup and I will just charge to have the gobo made. If I can have them made for 50 to 80 dollars I will charge 100 dollars and pay for my mania eventually. We use the EFX 600's so it will fit in our look. It will be the centerpiece in the truss if you used.

I have the Martin...It's a tank but well worth the money!