OTS Video overlay - Error!!

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Proformance

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Nov 6, 2006
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OTSAVDJ, VISTA, Denon HC4500

I can no longer get viodeo output - just a constant error message: "video overlay failed: hardware incompatibility error"

Things had been working fine, now I can't get video out from OTSAV, Siglos Karaoke, or even Powerpoint.

(Been through the control panel, display settings etc.) When I identify monitors I can get 1 & 2 to appear on the right screens but the opnly thing that ever shows up is the extended desktop - not the output from the applications.

Anyone know what has happened here?
 
Have you tried different screen resolutions/display size? I know for most of my video issues this is the first thing I try, and it usually fixes it.

If that doesn't do it you can try an uninstall of the video adapter/driver and re-install, check for updated drivers on the manufacturers web sites.

You may also have to reinstall the software as well.
 
I've been able to restore things like Powerpoint and Siglos Karaoke by adjusting the resolution, but OTS is properly configured yet produces an error none the less.
 
lol and he is using crapista, thats why he has problems
 
Old thread I know, but here's an update in case anyone is ever searching for information about OTS and the viedo over-lay.

The Intel chipsets (945/965) do not work in VISTA with OTS AV. Is it Intels or even Microsoft's fault? No, it isn't. You see, if you roll back the driver to an XP version your over-lay will work but you will be sacrificing any benefit to the new hardware/driver combination of your machine. It even becomes unstable. Furthermore, the VISTA driver works just fine with every other video application.

Move onto to Windows 7. Have a video card the meets or exceeds the OTS requirements? Good chance you'll have the same over-lay issues.

Nice work again OTS - you're now 7 years behind the dominant operating system, incompatible with the majority of off the shelf hardware that already exceeds you program requirements, suffering serious latency issues with popular controllers, without any meaningful mix features, and still 8 years without delivery on the promised version 2.0

Hello? If users happen to die first can they pass their free upgrade rights onto their grandchildren? Business must be good with the webcasters because, you haven't given anything back to the DJs who bought into your program.
 
If you change from OTSAV...what current "dj software" program would one desire?
 
My experience with OTS has been very different.

Audio, yeah - that's fine but, they did screw up their auto-segue algorithm when they added the auto-beat mixing and the program really does a poor job on auto DJ when compared to even consumer programs like iTunes. Auto-beat mix is also the most inane waste of program code I could ever imagine. No one playing outside their mother's basement has any need for it.

This is also 2011; video is the norm, and it has been 8 years since OTS sold this product promising an upgade to the next nominal version. For those of you keeping score - the Windows OS is now 3 generations beyond OTS and the program is NOT COMPATIBLE with the majority of mianstream hardware on the market.

OTS Tech is a broken record of excuses and blaming the hardware - when in fact, these probelms with the over-lay DO NOT EXIST with other software programs the way they do with OTS. Who are you going to believe, Inetel, Microsoft, ATI, etc. or the little known Swedish lab that sold this product on the basis of a non-existent upgrade and can't seem to write code that talks to hardware and drivers that everyone else can?

When a software can function on only 2 out every 12 existing video cards - the problem lies with the software - not the hardware or it's drivers.

My professional opinion of OTS is that anyone with a serious ITAV or DJ requirement that involves the use of video should stay away from this company.

It was a nice idea and I hung in there waiting but, OTS has failed miserably IMHO.
 
If you change from OTSAV...what current "dj software" program would one desire?

I will probably seek out a higher quality and more stable broadcast program for my ITAV needs. I can handle video DJ jobs with one my other DJ softwares. The fact that there are so many other video DJ softwares that work and work well is proof enough to me that OTS is a waste of anyone's time or money.

I not only have experience with these products myself but, remember I provide rentals and staging to a large number of different DJs and entertainers in Boston and NEw England. I understand and witness first hand the experiences of many other DJs and their products of choice as well. OTS has proven itself IMHO to be all talk and no substance.

I will probably roll OTS back to it's original best audio version of 7 or 8 years ago and use it only for audio in auto_DJ mode. OTS has serious latency issues with outboard controllers making it completely useless for a mix or club DJ as well. When you put OTS in a serious high-pressure enviroment it chokes on so many levels.

The #1 attraction of OTS in the first place was the music management. Their concept within the proprietary OTS file formats is far superior to the typical folder/directory structure with MP3s. The program manages music the way we do in real life in the club, studio, or broadcast booth. For those of us who have been in the music business many years - sorting MP3's like so many MS word documents is horrible and that is the what made OTS attractive. To bad that's where their ingenuity ended.
 
What a joke Pro!
I've commented on this before, and you don't get it.
Ots works directly with windows. Not the drivers. Windows works directly with the drivers. Windows is the middle man here. It's insane to think that Ots should be compatible with every piece of hardware available to mankind.

Ots should be it's own operating system by your account. And even then, It is the hardware manufacturers that provide the drivers to support the OS.

If you want it to work with Ots, you really need to use one of the 2 best known video card makers hardware (ATI & NVidia), and stay away from the crappy intel video stuff.

Whn you go purchase a new video card, what do you see on the store shelves? Cards with NVidia, or ATI chipsets far outweigh everything else. In fact, you may be hard pressed to find anything else locally. The internet will provide wider choice, but even then, look and the quantity of each provider sourced. ATI and NVidia far outwiegh the other choices. Intel graphics are well known to be very cheap, low quality alternatives in laptops, and desktop systems built into motherboards. It is wise to stay away from those systems if you want quality video output.

This is all on you I'm afraid. Stop blaming Ots for your choices in hardware.

Again, Ots works at a low level within Windows. NOT Windows Hardware drivers.

Ots chose to work at at the lowest possible level with Windows to provide the absolute best video capability possible. It is quite possible that the other cards don't support the chosen mode of operation. That's not Ots's fault. And Ots won't sacrifice quality to support everything.

Have fun finding your replacement software.
 
Thanks Rick! LOL
Fixed!

BTW, Do you agree with my card assessment as a software programmer?


The little guy on my shoulder says to stay out of this "debate"... ;) :)

But as a general rule, yes, I believe if you are going to run videos, you should have a dedicated video card that has hardware level acceleration. I test my software on two lappies, one with ATI, the other with NVidia. They both also have the Intel integrated graphics, so I can use less power by switching to them on the road if need be -- but I do not test using them, as I would not consider using them during a performance.
 
Rick, Thanks!
I wasn't asking you to participate in the software debate. Just support for the hardware.

You've responded as I expected. Basically supporting the thought that intel integrated graphics aren't worth supporting. (Not trying to put words in your mouth BTW).

Not to push this further, but in reference to my previous post, I would like to ask another supporting question....(Last one, Promise!)

As a programmer, When you program Rockit, I assume you program Rockit to work only with Windows level code, not the underlying windows hardware drivers, correct?
 
As a programmer, When you program Rockit, I assume you program Rockit to work only with Windows level code, not the underlying windows hardware drivers, correct?

Yes, that's correct.

It's a no-no in Vista and above to touch hardware, and quite frankly, I wouldn't want to anyway, because I would have to hard code for individual hardware. The DirectX and WASAPI and/or DirectSound interfaces are the correct way to handle video and audio respectively, and they maintain the system integrity in terms of security as well.
 
What a joke Pro!
I've commented on this before, and you don't get it.
Ots works directly with windows. Not the drivers. Windows works directly with the drivers. Windows is the middle man here. It's insane to think that Ots should be compatible with every piece of hardware available to mankind.


Ots should be it's own operating system by your account. And even then, It is the hardware manufacturers that provide the drivers to support the OS.

Jeff,
I'm a full time career DJ who doesn't give a flying F... about the tears and excuses that computer geeks shed over operating systems and drivers. I care about what works and the hardware I have to deal with everyday within the facilities and among the clients of the real world marketplace.

If you want it to work with Ots, you really need to use one of the 2 best known video card makers hardware (ATI & NVidia), and stay away from the crappy intel video stuff.

My present card is an ATI and Ots can not operate with it.

I have tested other software and found it can access the video overlay features without issue not only on the ATI , but also on Intel integrated graphics chipsets and about a dozen older laptops. By "crappy" do you mean "embarrasing" to Ots?

The truth is "crappy" is an adjective that best describes the Ots experience.

This is all on you I'm afraid. Stop blaming Ots for your choices in hardware.

Jeff, you have no credibility outside of your mom's basement. Ots fourms are a ghost town and original Ots users have abandoned the software in droves. The "upgrade" is nearly a deacde overdue and the software is functionally obsolete among actual working DJs. Ots is so far behind in this field there is no hope of it ever catching up.

Again, Ots works at a low level within Windows. NOT Windows Hardware drivers.

Ots chose to work at at the lowest possible level with Windows to provide the absolute best video capability possible. It is quite possible that the other cards don't support the chosen mode of operation. That's not Ots's fault. And Ots won't sacrifice quality to support everything.

FYI: The job description is DISC JOCKEY. Ots Labs and their IT schills like you clearly lack any material grasp of that reality.

The one point that I can agree with is that Ots Labs "works at the lowest possible level." The program belongs in a museum along side the Betamax and other good ideas derailed by a failure to launch.

Have fun finding your replacement software.

Been there, done that. It is in fact, a lot more fun than dealing with Ots Labs. In case it's not already clear: "I recommend any serious working DJ stay away from Ots Labs." The product is a competitive disadvantage to anyone who would continue to use it professionally.

Jeff, have fun loading version 2.0 with the grandchildren. LOL.

Ots CONS:

- serious latency rednders outboard controllers useless.
- heavily deficient in common DJ mixing features and capability
- Lack of on screen cue and return controls
- limited video hardware compatibility
- inability to play other file formats
- lack of credible support
- development too slow, product is seriously behind in it's field.
 
Sorry, but I must ask you this also Pro. Have you tried more than a single set of drivers for your ATI card? The latest isn't necessarily the greatest. Then again, sometimes they are.
Never count on it.

As far as credability goes, you don't claim to be a PC technician. I've worked on PCs for 20+ years. I've built them. I've troubleshot them. I ran a computer business locally out of my home as well. I work as a technician everyday for the last 14.5 years in electronics & software. I think I know a bit more than you about how PCs work. So it is you that has no credability here.

You are simply bitter that your hardware doesn't work. Not all hardware and software work well together. There are literally thousands of hardware combinations out there, and not all software will work with every combination. What works on one combination extremely well, will fail on another system completely, possible because a single driver doesn't play well in the overall scheme of things.

Say what you will, but YOU are pushing. I couldn't give a Flying.... if you hang with Ots or not. In fact, I urge you to move on! You're definately not welcome at the user forums any longer.

Ots Video is the best in the industry. It takes QUALITY hardware and software to use it. You ain't got it.

All your comments here and elsewhere... All Subjective! There are thousands of happy users. Many have left Ots, and Returned because, quite frankly, they could find nothing more reliable. Your claims on the intellifade.... The software hasn't changed in that area since well before ABM, so whatever claims you have are invalid.

Latency? I don't have it. I fact, you, are the only one I know of that does.... Hmmm..... Must be you again.

I won't comment on your other issues.

It seems you just chose two bad machines in a row that happened to have problems and are blaming OtsAV. You claim from your 2-machine experience that OtsAV is incompatible with the "majority of hardware". Have you really tested the majority of hardware to assert that? I think not.

You sir are exaggerating to try and give your statements credibility, which doesn't exist. If that were honestly true, there would be many reports on all the forums and to the Ots support desk, which there isn't.

Live with your choices! I do. If you want to change, by all means do so! And then of course, don't look back!

As you can see, I seem to know a little bit when carrying on a dialog with Rick on a couple of your issues. He's Not associated with Ots either.
Seems to me, that gives me some credability. Where's yours?

We can debate each others credability, or we can try to resolve your issues. Personally, with your attitude, I say we're done here. BUT, I AM willing to put things aside, and try and help. I'm betting you are not.
 
Sorry, but I must ask you this also Pro. Have you tried more than a single set of drivers for your ATI card? The latest isn't necessarily the greatest. Then again, sometimes they are.
Never count on it.

As far as credability goes, you don't claim to be a PC technician. I've worked on PCs for 20+ years. I've built them. I've troubleshot them. I ran a computer business locally out of my home as well. I work as a technician everyday for the last 14.5 years in electronics & software. I think I know a bit more than you about how PCs work. So it is you that has no credability here.

You are a PC technician not a professional DJ. You have no credibility trying to tell me how to do my job or what does or doesn't belong in a DJ booth.

You can't defend the software so you attack the user which, BTW is exactly the kind of support one gets from Ots Labs. This is precisely why I recommend DJs stay away from Ots.

We can debate each others credability, or we can try to resolve your issues. Personally, with your attitude, I say we're done here. BUT, I AM willing to put things aside, and try and help. I'm betting you are not.

I am not. Jeff, your notion of optimizing hardware probably works great for your bedroom DJ hobby, but on the road and in the club life is a little different. I'm sure in your limited DJ capacity Ots automation works swell for you. Don't tell me you understand "latency" when you likley can't mix anything short of a train wreck and think "key" refers only to something hexi-decimal.

In the real world where DJs perform Ots chokes big time, and your notion that we should be slaves to hardware, is ass-backwards. If Ots wants DJs as customers than it needs to develop timely products that satisfy our job requirements. OTS Labs lacks the resources to support a professional product in the DJ marketplace as evidenced by the number of years piling up while other products routinely surpass their features and performance. The "quality" isn't there because the development isn't there.
 
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