So you're going to Ricky's neck of the woods
He's just happy my post got lost when the server transfer took place...
It would take me a half a bottle of rum to remember what I wrote in those 7 minutes...
So how would YOU uplight this one?
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He's just happy my post got lost when the server transfer took place...
It would take me a half a bottle of rum to remember what I wrote in those 7 minutes...
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So you wouldn't care to double the money you're making in the same amount of time? Quite simply, that's what got me into it.
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oh we absolutely would....if we had 5 grand to sink in to what it takes to do the uplighting.
Plus, we do not get brides asking for it a lot.
Watch out for rattling from vibration. Also see if the venue can provide you with an 8' by 4' sheet of plyboard on which to place your booth/dj gear. All you have to do is ask nicely. I am sure they won't mind because they can reuse it.
I love it when extra services one could offer to fatten their bottom line are dismissed out of hand with phrases such as, "We don't get many brides asking about it...". Just because they aren't asking doesn't mean when they find out you do offer it and see what it can do to enhance their event that they wont then be interested and/or sold instantly... I would sugest, as I plan to do when funds are available, purchase say 10 inexpensive LED par 56 cans... do some promo work, not free but just enough to cover your costs, get some great pics and then start pitching the uplighting to brides and other clients (remember weddings aren't the only events where uplighting can be used).
But, to just sit back and take the stance that since no one askes there isn't any interest is silly.
But, to just sit back and take the stance that since no one askes there isn't any interest is silly.
Amazingly enough Rob, some of us aren't out to make as many possible dollars as can be squeezed from a given individual...
There's this other theory, that providing a decent product/service, at a reasonable price point = a decent profit/living.
Is that silly...?
Not at all... but dismissing a profitable service add-on almost completely out of hand is...
Especially when one doesn't really know the true investment....$5 grand...no way!
Rob,
That's like asking me to put karaoke into my software. Although I have attended many kroakie events, it is not my forte, and not my interest.
Just because I can make a few bucks more off something, does not mean I will do it.
I have to have a reason, and a passion. Otherwise, it ain't good in my book.
Money is a reason, but passion requires more. If you are only doing something strictly for extra dollars, and you do not have the passion for it, then you are not giving your client what they paid for...
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If you look at the thread where I asked about uplighting, the responses clearly indicate it would be in the $3k - $5k range to do it properly. Go back and look.
In regards to simply dismissing it out of hand.....no I didn't. We have looked into it extensively the past couple months, speaking with venues and our photographer friends about it, and all them indicate that it is not something they get requests for in a high volume.
We don't just go out and make decisions without doing extensive research on it, and we don't just go out and guy things to just buy things. There has to be a smart business reason to buying something, and uplighting, in my area, based on everything I have seen, and the price it would take to start, does not make sense.
Two things....don't go buy a light that does more than you need it to do. A $50 led par can be had and will do the job perfectly --- practically the same light as all the $89++ lights. And second, I was under the same assumption about my area, but advertised the product before ever purchasing a single light. After the Bridal Show where I intro'd it, I purchased my first 10 cans because the brides loved it. If you give them the option, packaged correctly (inc. pricing) they will love it. The people you talking to, would not be the ones brides would be asking for lighting from...so it makes sense that they wouldn't be getting requests for lighting.
Btw, go back and read that thread....I believe I posted on it saying I'll have 40 lights + cords for a total investment of $2250. If it's not there, it was lost in the server move.
Steve LeBlanc
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A decent uplight ; not some cheap junk.....is going to run you 100-150 a unit; with 24 your into 3 K...add a DMX controller, dmx caples, power cords, acses.....I think you're pretty close to 5K...
To do it right, that is.....
Some prefer cheap junk...and have the clients and fee structure to support it
Yeah, like that matters!:triwink:
The gig turned out good. The dad did a fantastic job with wiring silk lanterns and they hung a bunch of B&W old family shots that we focused on for uplighting. Given everything was white, and after talking it over with dad, we did color-change. It helped spice up the room. Not bad for a barn with a dirt/gravel floor. We used a battery/inverter to power the ceremony rig (out in a field). BTW Houston, I ran stereo and ran the sub off the low-out on the VMX1000. Kinda freaked me out a couple of times when I'd play a Beatles or Motown where they place things completely on one side or the other. Did do much hip-hop so I can't really tell if the config change helped with limit on the sub.
Okay, here's what we came out with.
A few shots at the beginning
Hot air balloon release (pretty badarse)
First dance
Long shot
Dance shots
From the outside
Thanks to everyone who gave input on this. For a dirt-floor barn gig, I was pleased.
The entire album.
Ceremony Playlist
Reception Playlist
Okay, here's what we came out with.
A few shots at the beginning
Hot air balloon release (pretty badarse)
First dance
Long shot
Dance shots
From the outside
Thanks to everyone who gave input on this. For a dirt-floor barn gig, I was pleased.
The entire album.
Ceremony Playlist
Reception Playlist
Rick,
One suggestion that also just popped up. Next time you do an event like this. Get some black heavy duty rubber mats. This way you can have your equipment off the junk and you won't have to clean it up so much after.
One suggestion that also just popped up. Next time you do an event like this. Get some black heavy duty rubber mats. This way you can have your equipment off the junk and you won't have to clean it up so much after.
DOH! You know, I carry 2 rubber mats with me. I put one over the top of the cables, where I stand. The other I threw back in the trailer. Good idea. Sorry I didn't think of it.
Looks good Rick Ryan. I would have changed the setup a bit so things won't look so congested in your area. You are even blocking part of the screen.
Referring to the first Pic. I would have placed the speakers on each side of that shorter wall at the corners of the dance floor, firing towards the longer distance, the opposite door. You could have moved your booth over a bit to the right side of the screen. The lights could have been just on the inside of each speaker.
In other words looking at your pic, the left speaker and left light stand could stay where they are to become the right side. The right speaker and stand could be moved to the left corner of the dance floor to become the left side. You would have had better fill and throw.
If you can, always point your speakers towards the longest opposite wall so you won't have "Bounce" from the shorter wall. Just a suggestion!
Referring to the first Pic. I would have placed the speakers on each side of that shorter wall at the corners of the dance floor, firing towards the longer distance, the opposite door. You could have moved your booth over a bit to the right side of the screen. The lights could have been just on the inside of each speaker.
In other words looking at your pic, the left speaker and left light stand could stay where they are to become the right side. The right speaker and stand could be moved to the left corner of the dance floor to become the left side. You would have had better fill and throw.
If you can, always point your speakers towards the longest opposite wall so you won't have "Bounce" from the shorter wall. Just a suggestion!