Couple things I will say in reply. Pulling in the speakers closer will make for an ugly congested look. First thing that catches your eye will be two black boxes in the middle, which would detract from the beauty of the trees.. Putting the speakers on the outside will break up that ugly outline. The placement of the Trees do not affect the sound. The speakers/sound take priority for the event. People come to have a good time and dance not sit and stare at a Christmas tree. All this can be conveyed without getting into a battle or confrontation.So let's say you put your speakers to the outside like you prefer. What would you say if the staff then comes and asks you to pull your speakers in close so that everyone can see the beautiful Christmas trees?
Both!The Hyatt uses my Entartainment agency and The entertainment Agency recommends the Hyatt. The people at the Hyatt like my sound because they will tell me that most of the DJs who come there are messy and sound like crap. One Guy tried to use one speaker and it was very blaring.Point of clarification requested. You've been back there several times, was it by the staff's (not a event manager/coordinator) choice or were you contracted in by someone else?
I just told you a few posts up that I did. Last year I pushed the trees farther out because I used lights there for the first time and I wanted the lights closer to the Dance Floor. See the pics here.Spoken like a true DJ. I can assure you that the women in the room, and probably most of the men, will care least about your needs. It's you against the world. Good luck if that situation ever arises.
That is ridiculous. Last I looked there was not a vote to see where things were going to be.Spoken like a true DJ. I can assure you that the women in the room, and probably most of the men, will care least about your needs. It's you against the world. Good luck if that situation ever arises.
Some comments above in red. Moving a table closer to your booth and the speaker farther out to take the table's place equals the same footprint. People just get caught up in the empty space and feel the need to jam everything in there. Another thing is, the DJ Booth/Table does not have to be in the middle of the two speakers. It can be anywhere as long as you can see what is going on. That is why they make cables in different lengths.Are you talking about pack space in the vehicle? No!
Are you talking about setup footprint in the venue? Yes!
In general, setup footprint will be about the same for any reasonable "tops on stick, sub(s) in the corner" setup. I have long tried to share that with folks but they seem to think if you spread the speakers the Footprint becomes larger.The space is more about the tripod footprint than the cabinet. If you are talking about "visual impact" of the gear...that is a different thing entirely. That also plays a part
Here is an example of a small space setup in a corner. I would never in a million years setup like that, ever! If you want to show an example of congestion that would be it. Behind the table are two subs, the dolly and equipment boxes. The DJ console holds the controller, laptop, mixer, etc. Total floor space consumed is about 7ft x 4ft - less than the area of two 8ft banquet tables. The venue was about 1200 sqft with 90 guests. There was not a need or room to spread the speakers out. Unless you like comb Filtering and Cross Talk.
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I have long tried to share that with folks but they seem to think if you spread the speakers the Footprint becomes larger.The space is more about the tripod footprint than the cabinet. If you are talking about "visual impact" of the gear...that is a different thing entirely. That also plays a part
I would never in a million years setup like that, ever! If you want to show an example of congestion that would be it. ... Unless you like comb Filtering and Cross Talk.
Some comments above in red. Moving a table closer to your booth and the speaker farther out to take the table's place equals the same footprint. People just get caught up in the empty space and feel the need to jam everything in there. Another thing is, the DJ Booth/Table does not have to be in the middle of the two speakers. It can be anywhere as long as you can see what is going on. That is why they make cables in different lengths.
Thanks for posting the pic. I would have dragged both trees nearer to the middle and put the Tripods/speakers on the outside and towards the wall instead of up front.. It would have lent itself to a cleaner look. Where the tripods are in your pics presents a tripping hazard. Sure it did not happen but just saying. This is another one of the reasons i use lighting stands for tripods so my speakers can be just about anywhere facing the dancefloor and won't bother anyone, They are usually 8-10 (From the bottom of the speaker) up in the air.
Maybe so Wes, maybe so. The trees at the Hyatt were much larger and it took me about 5 minutes to drag both of them over. Its all good!We'll have to agree to disagree. That would have been very time consuming for little benefit. I would have preferred the speakers to be spread out, but it just wasn't practical in this case.
Thank You. At last somebody gets it! Glad I am not the only one. A perfect setting for a Single Bose L1.if somebody set me up like that..i'd walk..it's about presentation.in a space that size ..you don't need two subs ..or two tops for that point...full range speakers on floor would suffice..
Couple things I will say in reply. Pulling in the speakers closer will make for an ugly congested look. First thing that catches your eye will be two black boxes in the middle, which would detract from the beauty of the trees.. Putting the speakers on the outside will break up that ugly outline. The placement of the Trees do not affect the sound. The speakers/sound take priority for the event. People come to have a good time and dance not sit and stare at a Christmas tree. All this can be conveyed without getting into a battle or confrontation.
I will give you a recent experience that happened NYE night.
Mike, by and large my clients don't care and they trust my judgement. I have come to the conclusion that most DJs do not ask for what they want out of fear of a repercussion. If one pleads their case in a sensible manner, common sense will prevail. Frankly speaking, I do not see the Venues doing to the bands what they do to DJs, That shows how much regard they have for DJs.Everyone is entitled to their opinion and this is all from your point of view. The guests / client / venue may feel otherwise. It is also your opinion that speakers / sound take priority for the event (most DJ's / sound people do). The venue's / clients opinion may be that their placement of the trees take priority. It is also your opinion that people come to dance and not sit. Some people only come for the food / discussion.
Canute - I think we all agree that there are sometimes better ways to set up and hopefully most of us DO try to do that. However, there are times where you have to work with what you are given.