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What you are doing on paper we are doing on the PC... except with less work. AutOK can be set with a closing time... and also set to not allow new or old singers from posting new songs if time wont permit them to sing them. As long as those that have been there all night continue to request songs to sing up to the sold out time they will sing them.... no matter how many new singers come in....

Regulars will quickly learn the earlier they get there the more they get to sing... they'll also soon learn that as long as my song is in the queue I will get to sing, period.

Don't know if it's easier ( write a name/enter a name. Tap a key/add a tally mark- Except no bothering with screen or window changes :sqwink:)

The question I would have is how does the program know how many more singers can get up until closing? Do you preset a time per song? If so, what if the variables allow for more or less times up? For more time up do you allow a new singer, or bring up an old one? If less, do you cut off singers?

If not preset, does the program use actual elapsed song times when entered along with a preset space between singers?
 
God this is bad, I helped design it and I hardly know the answer...

I think we settled on a 4 minute average per song. Basically how it works is..
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You set what time you want your show to end here. (In this case, 1:30am) Then it takes how much time is left in your playlist, adds that to the current system time. If playlist + current time = Closing time, then no more songs.

Current time is 12:00am
So lets say my closing time is 1:30am.
There's 50 minutes of songs in my playlist.
12am + 50 minutes = 12:50

Closing time(1:30am) - Playlist time(50minutes) = 40minutes

40minutes / 4 = 10
Or there's room for 10 more requests (give or take a few minutes)

All that complex math happens in the background. Good thing because my math skills suck. Once your playlist time hits your sellout time, the entry boxes become greyed out.

If you need to "Squeeze one more" in you have 2 choices. Change your sellout time (I usually add another 5 minutes) or change the tempo of the entire playlist.
 
Don't know if it's easier ( write a name/enter a name. Tap a key/add a tally mark- Except no bothering with screen or window changes :sqwink:)

The question I would have is how does the program know how many more singers can get up until closing? Do you preset a time per song? If so, what if the variables allow for more or less times up? For more time up do you allow a new singer, or bring up an old one? If less, do you cut off singers?

If not preset, does the program use actual elapsed song times when entered along with a preset space between singers?

Yeah Joe, it is a lot easier. Most of the time there is no entering of names because you just click "Play" and that's it. I'm not speaking of autOKdj but computerized karaoke in general.

I can't see that a shut-down timer is a really great feature. Unless you're using Toqer's baton method where there is no wait time between songs, I used to just figure 5 minutes per song and that was pretty close.
 
Yeah Joe, it is a lot easier. Most of the time there is no entering of names because you just click "Play" and that's it. I'm not speaking of autOKdj but computerized karaoke in general.

I can't see that a shut-down timer is a really great feature. Unless you're using Toqer's baton method where there is no wait time between songs, I used to just figure 5 minutes per song and that was pretty close.


As for easier, remember that I DO run PC shows for my tiny events. I have experience with both, an see them as about the same. ( I like to poke Toq with the fact that I actually won a speed loading contest against a PC with discs.:sqcool:). Not important here though. My question is HOW are song times determined by the program. Do you preset say, 3:30 per song for your timer, or are the real elapsed times per song entered when they are added to the playlist?


BTW, Toq and I are just about at opposite poles in more than just the PC issue. My shows are more relaxed, and I give singers ample time for their "stardom" and applause. No speed singing here. The baton method would lose me singers rather quickly. I have seven venues (4 once each weekly, and 3 (same owners) that rotate Sundays. Except for one, they are all restaurant bars. In these venues I rarely pull more than 30 singers a night, and usually closer to 25. I can afford to be a bit more leisurely, and they enjoy a more personal approach. However, my venues are, from what I can tell, completely different from Toqer's. I guess that's why different singers prefer different hosts....
 
My question is HOW are song times determined by the program. Do you preset say, 3:30 per song for your timer, or are the real elapsed times per song entered when they are added to the playlist?....


Both, really. If no singers are queued into the playlist then the number of slots available for singers is based solely on a predefined average song length as pre-programed into AutOK. Once a singer is enqued into the playlist the number of available slots is adjusted based both on the real time it would take to get each singer through and the pre-programed average song length.

What this does is some songs may be shorter or longer then the average and when taken into account in the actual playlist the number of slots available is dynamic then.
 
I can't speak for autOkdj but if I was going to include that feature, I would do it like this. Assuming that the MP3 file is not using a variable bit rate (very unlike) you would know the length of the song from the file size/frame number etc. Then, since this would only affect the end of the night I would average the times between the end of the song and the time the KJ hit play throwing out the highs and lows for the evening. This would give me mean times between songs plus song length. Using this method you could probably get it down to the minute. Or you could just say "last song" in the microphone.
 
I can't speak for autOkdj but if I was going to include that feature, I would do it like this. Assuming that the MP3 file is not using a variable bit rate (very unlike) you would know the length of the song from the file size/frame number etc. Then, since this would only affect the end of the night I would average the times between the end of the song and the time the KJ hit play throwing out the highs and lows for the evening. This would give me mean times between songs plus song length. Using this method you could probably get it down to the minute. Or you could just say "last song" in the microphone.

That really is an over complicated way of doing it....

Autok automatically adjust in real time no matter how long it takes to get a singer up even in manual advance mode... If it takes 2 minutes of time to get a singer up and going from the time ya call em to the time ya press play... autok has already calculated the new number of open slots.... song average has already be programed accurate or not it's just a guide point anyway.