The park event is a no go and I'm good.

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steve149 said:
So tell him for $250 you can bring your DSR tops ONLY and play for a few hours. You may be correct that you need more to "do it right" .. but that doesn't mean you can't do it effectively with minimal gear.
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Steve what he thought was he would get me to do the event by myself for the $250. Figuring I would be excited to be the DJ doing this big event with tons of people there. Not happening here. I wouldn't do it with just the the 2 tops making me look bad. If I did it I would do it right and he knows that. Steve for that amount of money I'll pass. Let him find somebody willing to do it for that price like he said.

My problem with this is the disrespect he showed me. It's not like I'm a stranger to him. He has seen me in action plenty of times. I used to do a carnival in Irvington NJ that he was a part of.

So he knows what I can do. So far him to try to play me cheap, not going to happen. I mean we are only talking $50 more and not $250 more.

He had Kenny Bobien come and sing for the event and he's not cheap. So if he can pay Kenny then he could pay us. This year he said he can't afford Kenny this year. I don't give a damn who he can or can not afford. That has nothing to do with me. Either you pay our price or you don't get us. Just that simple. End of the discussion.
 
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Steve what he thought was he would get me to do the event by myself for the $250. Figuring I would be excited to be the DJ doing this big event with tons of people there. Not happening here. I wouldn't do it with just the the 2 tops making me look bad. If I did it I would do it right and he knows that. Steve for that amount of money I'll pass. Let him find somebody willing to do it for that price like he said.

My problem with this is the disrespect he showed me. It's not like I'm a stranger to him. He has seen me in action plenty of times. I used to do a carnival in Irvington NJ that he was a part of.

So he knows what I can do. So far him to try to play me cheap, not going to happen. I mean we are only talking $50 more and not $250 more.

He had Kenny Bobien come and sing for the event and he's not cheap. So if he can pay Kenny then he could pay us. This year he said he can't afford Kenny this year. I don't give a damn who he can or can not afford. That has nothing to do with me. Either you pay our price or you don't get us. Just that simple. End of the discussion.
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$250, by yourself, seems to be more than you get as a cut at any event you have described in these pages ..

Subs outside are kind of useless anyway .. unless you have a LOT of them .. double 18s to start .. the bass just doesn't carry. So as @redhotdj mentioned .. a couple pairs of smaller tops tends to be a better solution without bringing in a truck full of gear.

I still stand by the fact you could have told him what "you could do" for $250 .. and go from there. $250 for 3 hours of time with a pair of tops is pretty typical. That might have lead to .. "What would it cost to go 6 hours?" .. and you could have come back with your $300 .. or $400 .. or whatever.
 
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steve149 said:
$250, by yourself, seems to be more than you get as a cut at any event you have described in these pages ..

Subs outside are kind of useless anyway .. unless you have a LOT of them .. double 18s to start .. the bass just doesn't carry. So as @redhotdj mentioned .. a couple pairs of smaller tops tends to be a better solution without bringing in a truck full of gear.

I still stand by the fact you could have told him what "you could do" for $250 .. and go from there. $250 for 3 hours of time with a pair of tops is pretty typical. That might have lead to .. "What would it cost to go 6 hours?" .. and you could have come back with your $300 .. or $400 .. or whatever.
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Thank you for that suggestion but that wouldn't work in this case. I know the guy too well. No room for renegotiations. Simply put if it were just for 1 hour and I used my 2 tops I wouldn't do it. It's not about the money. It's about the principal. I wasn't going to allow him to try to manipulate me into doing it. I don't need money that bad. It's about standing up for myself this time and caving in feeling sorry for him. The price was set and if he didn't like the price which he didn't, then he could kiss my azz.
 
MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
Thank you for that suggestion but that wouldn't work in this case. I know the guy too well. No room for renegotiations. Simply put if it were just for 1 hour and I used my 2 tops I wouldn't do it. It's not about the money. It's about the principal. I wasn't going to allow him to try to manipulate me into doing it. I don't need money that bad. It's about standing up for myself this time and caving in feeling sorry for him. The price was set and if he didn't like the price which he didn't, then he could kiss my azz.
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That's certainly your prerogative .. but the pay (if you did it alone) would seem to be higher than anything you have mentioned in a long time. And lots of folks ask for far more than they would get for the $$s .. I do it all the time when buying large items or services .. that's negotiation. I realize it's too late to do that here, but you can certainly do it in the future.
 
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That's certainly your prerogative .. but the pay (if you did it alone) would seem to be higher than anything you have mentioned in a long time. And lots of folks ask for far more than they would get for the $$s .. I do it all the time when buying large items or services .. that's negotiation. I realize it's too late to do that here, but you can certainly do it in the future.
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Steve why would I do what you suggested and just use the 2 powered tops in the park for 3 hours just to get paid $250? Forget about the pay for a moment. What about the how it would it would sound in the park using only the 2 tops. It would make me look bad in people's eyes with a setup like that. Why would I shoot myself in the foot? Especially since we've done this event afew years in a row and it hasn't gotten us any other work outside of this event.
 
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Steve why would I do what you suggested and just use the 2 powered tops in the park for 3 hours just to get paid $250? Forget about the pay for a moment. What about the how it would it would sound in the park using only the 2 tops. It would make me look bad in people's eyes with a setup like that. Why would I shoot myself in the foot? Especially since we've done this event afew years in a row and it hasn't gotten us any other work outside of this event.
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You're not providing sound for the Rolling Stones .. you are playing songs for a couple and their friends. 2 tops WON'T look bad in very many people's minds since it's pretty much the norm for an outdoor party. ONLY YOU seem to be stuck on that.
 
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Mix tomorrow I have to do a car show for the Cedarville Fire Dept. I am taking 4 2way 15inch JBL ill take pictures and let you know how it goes. By the way ive done this event for 6 years and the field where they park the car is at least 200 yards long and in the back of the field they can still hear me. Like Steve said I'm not playing for the Rolling Stones just doing a car show. The sound is just right for the people near me and loud enough to be heard out back. But if you want to bring up your big bass bins so we can impress lets go for it. (Not)
 
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Here you go Mix the car show I did. This year as you can see from one of the photos was real wet from all the rain we have had. They moved the registration tent as you drive in
from the other side of the field which made the field smaller. I used 4 2way JBLs and was more than enough. And my grandson was my assistance
 

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I think one of your challenges is you have a hard time understanding someone else's point of view.
The guy DID get someone to do it last year for $250, so it doesn't shock me that that's what he wants to pay again.

He probably feels you are disrespecting him by not giving him the same price.

He doesn't see any more value in what you are offering. You seem to be assuming that people will understand the value of the equipment. It doesn't seem like he does.
Steve's suggestions are spot on
 
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Scott Hanna said:
I think one of your challenges is you have a hard time understanding someone else's point of view.
The guy DID get someone to do it last year for $250, so it doesn't shock me that that's what he wants to pay again.

He probably feels you are disrespecting him by not giving him the same price.

He doesn't see any more value in what you are offering. You seem to be assuming that people will understand the value of the equipment. It doesn't seem like he does.
Steve's suggestions are spot on
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No he understands clearly. I will tell the full details later I'm working. He just wanted a big system and only wants to pay $250.
 
I think it's you that wants the big system.

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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
For the $300 we were going to give him the 2 Yorkville subs, 2 powered tops and the double 15's on the stage. Now where could he get all of/ that for that price?
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So what's needed is some real fire power for it to sound the way it should. He couldn't pay that when we were looking out for him, then screw him.
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I wouldn't do it with just the the 2 tops making me look bad. If I did it I would do it right and he knows that.
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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
Simply put if it were just for 1 hour and I used my 2 tops I wouldn't do it. It's not about the money. It's about the principal.
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This is the only part where I saw the customer saying he wants specific items.
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This is the crazy part. He is looking for the DJ to provide the generator or 2 of them and that's all he wants to pay.
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Mix, Mixmaster, Mixarino, Mixy Baby, Sweetheart, Pal...

You cannot see the forest for the trees here. It is good that you have principals and stand by them. It is not so good that you are a bit inflexible, and perhaps short-sighted in missing opportunities. Also, as others have stated, you do not need a partner. You need a roadie/stage-hand. A set-up assistant is not a partner. Get $250 for a gig, pay someone $50 to help set-up and tear down (not necessarily required to stay for the entire event), and call it a day...

GJ
 
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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
Here's the deal. I did this event for this guy's wife. That was the women's empowerment speaker thing.

So he wanted me to do ths big event in the park that he has for his sons memorial every year. He tried to stroke my ego by telling me how much his wife loved my work. So he thought I was automatically going to do it because of this.

Now I get that the event is what it is and I don't mind helping out but the price has to be right. He wanted me to cut my partner out of the deal because last year the sound was terrible.

So he tried to soup me up telling me how he knows that I got the right sound. He didn't need to tell me that. I already know that.

I found out that last year that he played the sympathy card and got my partner to do it for $250. As my partner explained it to me he got what he paid for. He wanted to teach him a lesson.

So I talked it over with my partner and I was serious about this. I understand it's basically a charity event and that's fine. We weren't looking to kill his pocket because we've done this event for him a number of years in a row. Last year I wasn't involved. All we were asking for was $300 doing a big favor for that price.

For the $300 we were going to give him the 2 Yorkville subs, 2 powered tops and the double 15's on the stage. Now where could he get all of/ that for that price?

This event is all day. He wants you there at 10am to set up and the event isn't over until 7:30pm. He told my partner he can get anybody to do it for $250. We both wish him good luck.

My plan if I don't have a job to do that day is to attend the event so I can have a great laugh! All we wanted was an extra $50. It's not like we were asking for a ton more of money. Also it's not like he doesn't know about our work and how good we are. This is the crazy part. He is looking for the DJ to provide the generator or 2 of them and that's all he wants to pay.

I'm a very nice guy and I lIke to help people when I can but I'm not that damn nice! I guess he'll learn a valuable lesson after this year. Either way we won't be the DJs.
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I would have done it. I would have brought out 2 powered tops and played from my iPad remotely to my airport express while sipping on some brews under the shade tree, and eating some free food!

You could have taken a bunch of pictures of the guests'!!!!!!!!!if your into that kinda stuff?
 
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.. and a Business Plan .. and a Reality Check .. and an ..
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Enema ;)

redhotdj said:
Here you go Mix the car show I did. This year as you can see from one of the photos was real wet from all the rain we have had. They moved the registration tent as you drive in
from the other side of the field which made the field smaller. I used 4 2way JBLs and was more than enough. And my grandson was my assistance
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That gear looks awful familiar. My semi-retired passive system is JRX with QSC amps (and a Yamaha) and the same Dell laptop (that's a 1501 I believe?)


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Steve why would I do what you suggested and just use the 2 powered tops in the park for 3 hours just to get paid $250?
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Because it's more than you have made since the start of the year DJing. How much gear did you provide Saturday night and how much were you paid?
 
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