Hell, I won't get out of my jammies for less than $250...
Remember, he has to pay half for the "security" as well. Let's say the "security" costs $80 for the night, that means he has to pay $40. Now we have a net loss of $15.
Another meeting with restaurant owner tomorrow.
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Hell, I won't get out of my jammies for less than $250...
Remember, he has to pay half for the "security" as well. Let's say the "security" costs $80 for the night, that means he has to pay $40. Now we have a net loss of $15.
Hell, I won't get out of my jammies for less than $250...
Remember, he has to pay half for the "security" as well. Let's say the "security" costs $80 for the night, that means he has to pay $40. Now we have a net loss of $15.
you are so right i forgot about security
Then subtract the $50-100 for 1/2 of the security and when you split the take 3 ways .. well everyone gets a good reaming.
I would suggest, that Mix is the one getting the reaming here.
If these stories of his are true, then he's being a dumbass. If not true, then he is just yanking our chains for S&G...
Maybe we could have that gear swap meet at his "gig", then we could all see whether he is BS'ing or not. I would suggest someplace in NY, so that me and Steve could cover the door, and "security". I think a nice country bar would be a good place to indoctrinate him in the ways of the real world (I got dibs on the first bar stool thrown)...
I didn't say I was definately doing anything. I still got a lot of concerns and reserves in doing this. My partners girl is hung up on the fact that the owner isn't charging us anything to come and do this. He's letting us get the place for free. Other places have wanted to charge them to have an event in their place. I don't care that right now he's letting us get the place for free. I care that we make some decent money out of this or at least break even to start. The gas thing isn't that big a deal because the place isn't that far from where I live. It's less then a mile away. Probably less then 1/2 a mile.
I haven't said I was certainly doing it. Like I said the owner would have to be willing to give an incentive to get people in the place before I would agree to do this. I certainly understand that to get people to come to pay at the door you need to be a big name main event DJ that people want to see perform. Also the other thing too is being able to bring in a performer that people will want to see also too. Not just making it only about a DJ playing somewhere.
My friend that has a big name and can draw a crowd has at times people that everyone wants to see perform at his parties. Not every time but on certain dates to keep things fresh that's what he does. Once again keep in mind I've not said I certainly will do this. I might try it once to see how it goes and if I don't feel it is a good workable ideal then I'll just pass up doing any future stuff in this place. My main concern to start is breaking even. If we make some money off of the event then that's a plus.
I know I'm pretty good with people knowing who I am as a DJ but my partner is still trying to go back into yesterday. It's not about yesterday but are you a hot item today.
I haven't said I was certainly doing it. Like I said the owner would have to be willing to give an incentive to get people in the place before I would agree to do this. I certainly understand that to get people to come to pay at the door you need to be a big name main event DJ that people want to see perform. Also the other thing too is being able to bring in a performer that people will want to see also too. Not just making it only about a DJ playing somewhere.
My friend that has a big name and can draw a crowd has at times people that everyone wants to see perform at his parties. Not every time but on certain dates to keep things fresh that's what he does. Once again keep in mind I've not said I certainly will do this. I might try it once to see how it goes and if I don't feel it is a good workable ideal then I'll just pass up doing any future stuff in this place. My main concern to start is breaking even. If we make some money off of the event then that's a plus.
I know I'm pretty good with people knowing who I am as a DJ but my partner is still trying to go back into yesterday. It's not about yesterday but are you a hot item today.
I get it trust me. I'm into making sure that this owner is willing to more then just let us come in and play there to see what we can bring. That's why I mentioned the drink specials thing. Just him willing to go half on security just isn't enough for me. On both sides we need bodies in the place or it's a bust for all. So he also needs to work with us to get bodies in his place. The big thing is this is his place and he wouldn't be contacting us if he already had a big crowd flooding the door and can't wait to get in. He said he used to have a DJ play there regularly but stopped that.They slapped the wrong person when somebody was born!
Now he's looking to build things back up and for me for him to do so he needs to assist us too. I'm not into doing all the work myself. He has to give some too if he plans to try to make it work. It's called give and take. We can't do all the giving and he's doing all the taking just because he's allowing us to get the place right now for free to do what we do. It's about cooperation.
I know it's his place and he has a right to do what he wants to do in his place. I'm just being extra careful and not just jumping in excited that I get somewhere to play and people can see me shine. My ego isn't that big.
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Please fogive me for typing the following in all caps.
WHY IN THE HE11 WOULD ANY DJ PAY A OWNER TO PLAY AT HIS/HER CLUB? AND TELL THE GIRLFRIEND TO GO SU*K IT!!!
Mix never never never say to any bar owner, i wont charge you ( The owner ) Ill just have a pay at the door, if anything you tell them your normal rate for 4 hours is lets say 250.00 for the night, try me for a month for 200.00 a night and at the end of the 4 weeks you go back to your normal rate, put this in a contract and have him sign it. Why do you want to work for nothing what happens if you blow a speaker, the way you have it set up with him now you make jack s*it and he makes out like a bandit and laughs all the way to the bank
Listen this is how he was talking Redhead. I get what you're saying and I agree with you. He doesn't want to do things that way. I too like to have an owner just pay me to play there and let them worry about getting people to come in the place.
The 4 week deal won't work. He doesn't want a study DJ any more to play there each week. I'm not paying him a thing to play there. He mentioned the thing about once he sees enough people in the place then he wanted us to pay him something. Hell to the no. By that time you can move on to somewhere else and get paid.
If you're bringing in enough people and he's making enough money because we're there he will change his tune.
The 4 week deal won't work. He doesn't want a study DJ any more to play there each week. I'm not paying him a thing to play there. He mentioned the thing about once he sees enough people in the place then he wanted us to pay him something. Hell to the no. By that time you can move on to somewhere else and get paid.
If you're bringing in enough people and he's making enough money because we're there he will change his tune.
Then find another bar !! Or let your partner and his girlfriend do it and charge them a nominal fee to use your equipment.
I think this line sums it up for you Mix - this means you should not be paying one dime, period. Now you're a planner, promoter, etc too? Find one thing and stick with it. The alternative, as you can see, is to go many ways and lose everything.
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I'll say it this way. If the owner isn't willing to give something like a drinks special, open bar for 1 hour or a buffet then I know it won't work and I'm not doing it. Him and his girl can do what they want. I'll let them know right then and there at the next meeting my ideals and if it's a no go, I'm a no show.
This place isn't a club with a club system. A place that people know about, can't wait to get there and pay money to come in. So it will take some building up to get things the way we all would like to see it.
DJ Jimmy you mentioned you've never needed a gimmick to get people to come to a place where you were playing at. When I go to play at the bar in Orange, NJ there is no need for a gimmick to get people to come to the place. They already have people who are regulars that come there and who else shows up. So the place is never empty. They also have a set thing that they do on different nights of the week and it's the same week end and week out. So there's a variety that customers can choose from.
This place I'm talking about is where would be starting out cold turkey. That means we would have to work to build things up. Not sure how long that would take. All I know that means we would have to work our butts off to make it a big hit and must come to place while we are there. It also would need to be something that people will get used to. Consistency is the big key.
This place isn't a club with a club system. A place that people know about, can't wait to get there and pay money to come in. So it will take some building up to get things the way we all would like to see it.
DJ Jimmy you mentioned you've never needed a gimmick to get people to come to a place where you were playing at. When I go to play at the bar in Orange, NJ there is no need for a gimmick to get people to come to the place. They already have people who are regulars that come there and who else shows up. So the place is never empty. They also have a set thing that they do on different nights of the week and it's the same week end and week out. So there's a variety that customers can choose from.
This place I'm talking about is where would be starting out cold turkey. That means we would have to work to build things up. Not sure how long that would take. All I know that means we would have to work our butts off to make it a big hit and must come to place while we are there. It also would need to be something that people will get used to. Consistency is the big key.