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DJBIGRICK

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Mar 29, 2009
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I was DJing a Christmas Party. I had the music cranked up pretty loud and the music started cutting out. The music would stay off for about 30-45 seconds, which seemed a lifetime in the middle of the dance floor be full.
I have a Mackie 1400, 2 JBL-TR125 and a Peavey 112HS monitor. One person told me that I may be overloading the amp because of not enough speakew wattage. I thought that I would get some tips from some of you.
 
Chances are whatever he was running went into thermal shutdown.

If you learn how to use equipment properly, and don't push the equipment past the limits (use the right equipment for the size and type of crowd/event) then it's not a problem.

I took over management at a bar. Our amps were going into thermal shutdown from the DJ's. One day I overheard one of them mentioning how they had rewired the sytem. I spent nearly 10 hours tracing down every speaker cable to every speaker and rewiring the system properly. They couldn't get the system to thermal shutdown after that and the sound was MUCH cleaner.

Learn to set up and run the equipment right and you won't have that problem.
 
Yep, the amp is trying to protect itself from a more permanent failure. If you'd like some help understanding amplifier loads and impedance, just ask. There are lots of helpful people here, and we'd love to help. :)

Ben
 
NLFX Pro said:
Yep, the amp is trying to protect itself from a more permanent failure. If you'd like some help understanding amplifier loads and impedance, just ask. There are lots of helpful people here, and we'd love to help. :)

Ben
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Just be prepared for a 3 page gear masturbation thread..... LOL
 
The over load lights on the amp are not staying on. And I can hear the music through the headsphones just fine. Would it matter if I used bannana clip connectors or XLR.
I can play at home and it is fine. When I play pretty loud for a long time it starts the fades.
 
DJBIGRICK said:
The over load lights on the amp are not staying on. And I can hear the music through the headsphones just fine. Would it matter if I used bannana clip connectors or XLR.
I can play at home and it is fine. When I play pretty loud for a long time it starts the fades.
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If you have your Playback Source ( CD, laptop, etc) connected to a mixer, you can take away the amp and you will still be able to listen to playback on your headphones. Not really an indication of how your amp is or will perform, it really just means your Playback Source and mixer is working, nothing else.
Doesnt matter what kind of connectors you are using, its how you are connected.

Like everyone said, how are your speakers wired.
 
There is also a possibility that you didn't have enough electric wattage/amperage going to your amp. That would have caused the amp to overheat and give you problems.

I bought a circuit tester to detect all the outlets on each circuit breaker. I use sticky notes and number them 1's, 2's, and 3's and but them next to the outlets so I can make sure I have the electric I need for the different equipment depending on how much equipment I need electric for.

They are not real expensive $40. up to about $150. I am not a pro electrician so I got the cheap and it works great.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_6170-12704-...ntURL=/pl_Test+Meters+_4294821925_4294937087_
 
I have 2 double cd players & controlers, a Furman power conditioner, Numark C3 mixer and a small double light set, all in my rack. Then I have the MAckie 1400 in a separate case. All of the power cords go to the conditoner and the cord from the conditioner to the wall plug. I have the double wire from the amp to the mixer with 1/4" and RCAs. I have 2 speaker wires with banana clips that plug in to the 2 speakers outlets on the amp and 1/4" plugs going in to 2 speakers. Then I go from one of the speakers to the Peavey powered wedge monitor in front of my table.
 
You have to watch for things like Coffee pots and hot plates plugged into the same circuit you are working off of. Somebody else can plug in and be taking the amperage you need to operate you equipment.

I had a Christmas party and after I got all hooked up they brought over a big blow up Santa that runs a blower and plugged it into a circuit that I was using for 2 powered speakers. It had a 15 amp circuit breaker on it so 80% of 15 = 12 amps at the outlet. 1 main and 1 sub needs 12 amps so I had to explain the I needed that circuit and I already had a 50 foot cord on it. I won't go past 50 foot because of loss. So I loaned them a cord and they ran it to a circuit that I was not using.
Not everybody worries about the electric but I do and it makes the equipment sound better, work better, and last longer.
 
??????????? You are running from a conventional speaker powered by an amp to a powered monitor?
 
MusicMeister said:
Double check the case - is the front and back open on it? Running it hard will cause thermal shutdown in an enclosed case.

And from the regular speakers to the powered wedge?
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Mackie 1400 I believe exhaust to the side!
 
DJBIGRICK said:
When I play pretty loud for a long time it starts the fades.
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Play slightly less loud, and you will not have a problem.

Reducing the power to the speakers by half will reduce the output of the speakers by -3dB, at most.
 
DJBIGRICK said:
I have 2 double cd players & controlers, a Furman power conditioner, Numark C3 mixer and a small double light set, all in my rack. Then I have the MAckie 1400 in a separate case. All of the power cords go to the conditoner and the cord from the conditioner to the wall plug. I have the double wire from the amp to the mixer with 1/4" and RCAs. I have 2 speaker wires with banana clips that plug in to the 2 speakers outlets on the amp and 1/4" plugs going in to 2 speakers. Then I go from one of the speakers to the Peavey powered wedge monitor in front of my table.
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Well, for starters, the powered wedge should NOT be paralleled with one of your speakers, it should be connected to the same signal that you run out of your mixer to the mackie amp.

Send it out the Zone of the mixer and you can control it separately.

I don't know if that'll fix your issue, but it's a start to getting it hooked up properly.
 
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