I'm worried about people tripping on legs of tripods.

DJ Bobcat said:

I don't put my speakers behind me because I think it helps with feedback prevention to have them slightly in front of my microphone location, and I think it's normally a bit loud. I do use two monitors, but I can adjust the volume up or down at various times and it has no impact on the audience. I really don't need two monitors, but I have this OCD thing where I prefer symmetry.[emoji1] We all have our disabilities I guess.[emoji4] You don't look deaf, Chuck.[emoji1]
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I really don't have problems with feedback. People say that to me all the time. I do not know why. Maybe it's the room, maybe it's the gear or the way I have them set... but I do like the look and you even get better bass I think because it is bouncing off the wall behind.. (not sure about that, just seems so LOL)

Ausumm said:

I do this at a lot of the smaller venues I play.
It keeps the legs safe from the guests AND the servers...
and it really gives a more appealing look.
But, as I said, these venues are smaller, so no cranking is necessary.
(I also skew the speakers away from the center, and EQ the mix so it doesn't feedback)

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Hey, Mike... I like the setup, but can you tell us how you attach that mirror ball to the stand??? Is that a product you can buy, or something custom?


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Chuck The DJ said:

In the 4 or 5 feet of moving the speakers behind you, if your speakers won't be loud enough on the dance floor, may I respectfully suggest you need new speakers.

Am I deaf? Well, that is beside the point, in fact I have been deaf in my right ear since 9th grade, thank you for reminding me of my disability. But Since I mostly do weddings and while I do play it loud, I like to be able to hear my mixes better and it does help me from overly blasting the crowd as I can hear how loud it is.

At events, as time goes on, our ears get used to the sound causing us to turn it up. Ever be behind your speakers thinking how great it sounds only to run to the bathroom or bar and go "shit, that's loud!"... While volume can be an effect, it can also be very disturbing to many older guests.

Last night at my school dance I had them beside me, but I also had a EV ZLX 12 as a monitor behind me... Just personal choice really.

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I was asking not so much that you need to hear the music as your placement will make you deaf.
Safe Noise Dose Chart: Noise Exposure Limits for Hearing Safety

100db is limited to 2 hours of exposure according to OSHA and the above link says damage can in occur in 2 hours at 91db.

Don't know about you, but I play about 90-95 most of the time for dancing - it can be a lot quieter behind the speakers. Part of my setup (and experience) I know the max volume on the mixer and work from that. I don't rely on my ears after hours of music to determine how loud is too loud.

you can also watch teh dancefloor - too loud and the crowd moves to the far side of the floor. too soft and they're 1 foot from your speakers. Works everytime.

Also you get a 6db drop with a doubling of distance Sound level distance damping decibel dB damping calculation calculator change distance versus sound level apps reduction drop dissipation SPL sound transmission loss free field loss sound and distance - decrease drop fall sound over distance versus dB sound different distances attenuation microphone calculator distance level drop ratio dampening - sengpielaudio Sengpiel Berlin

so if the dancefloor is 15 feet deep and you move your speakers 5' behind you farther from the floor you have a drop of 6db or more in the middle of the dancefloor compared to putting the speakers at the edge of the dance floor. So for the same volume/db/spl you need MORE speaker, more power, higher levels...for what? You like to run your gear harder, buy and move bigger gear, have less headroom?

I know about the numbers, but it is why we can each run our business how we see fit and what works for us. Rarely is there a "right & wrong" way...

there is science and art.
art is subjective..what songs you play, etc is up to you and there is no wrong or right.
Science is facts...db/spl drops with distance. it's always louder in front of the speaker than behind it. I see a lot of factual reasons to put the speakers in front of you and near the floor and no factual reasons to the reverse.

I know that I sure as hell dont want the speakers behind me, I am already hard of hearing in one ear.

sometimes science and art mix. But again, to each their own. I still prefer my way and it works for me, my clients and my pocketbook.

DJ Bobcat said:

Hey, Mike... I like the setup, but can you tell us how you attach that mirror ball to the stand??? Is that a product you can buy, or something custom?

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The actual tripod stand was part of one of those 4 par can packages with the chase controller.
The lights attach to the tripod with a special bolt, which slides into socket on the top of the stand,
and is tightened with a hand screw. (knob)
I took that special bolt, and screwed it to a piece of square U-shaped aluminum (3 sided)
and attached the mirror ball motor at the other end.
I'll take a pic next time I dig it out of the trailer

IceBurghDJ said:

Science is facts...db/spl drops with distance. it's always louder in front of the speaker than behind it. I see a lot of factual reasons to put the speakers in front of you and near the floor and no factual reasons to the reverse.

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Want a factual reason?
In a room where there is a a lot of traffic around the front of your table.
It's a fact that sometimes it's safer when speakers are tucked back against the wall.
Isn't that what the OP was about?
And, honestly, louder isn't a big problem when the difference in the speaker location is only a matter of 4 or 5 feet...
and the room is small to begin with.
No one said it is the preferred way to do it...
just that sometimes it's the best way to solve a problem.

Found these two pics.
In both cases, the dance floor is right in front of me, and there are important doors on either side of the DJ table.
(doors to the kitchen or doors to the bar)
Imagine how more dangerous it would be for guests and servers if my speakers were in front of the table.

In that case, that was probably the best possible choice for the placement

I have never had that issue and don't worry about it happening.

MIXMASTERMACHOM said:

I have never had that issue and don't worry about it happening.

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Keep playing those small bar/venues. It'll happen.
And if you don't worry about it (or think about it)
you won't be prepared when the situation arises.