Radio Edit Version - may not be what you think....

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DJ Forbes

DJ Forbes

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I just wanted to toss this out there, as I am a very new DJ and still learning a lot of things. I like to share the silly things I stumble on so maybe someone else will see it and be one step ahead. I'm sure 98% or more of you already know this... I didn't until recently and yes, I feel like a moron because now it makes sense to me... BUT, we've all gotta learn somehow.

When downloading music (be it from a record pool subscription or some other location of your choosing), some times you will see "Radio Edit" versions. Now, I just always assumed this meant it was the "clean" version like what they would play on the radio. This may be the case in some scenarios, but if you're downloading from a source like a DJ record pool, this more than likely has nothing to do with the content of the song. It doesn't mean there are no bad words in it. In DJ terms, a Radio Edit version means that the song has little or no intro and outro beats attached to it. You get maybe 1 bar (4 beats) then the song starts.. or the song just starts on that track. The same song on a non-radio-edit version, may have 8 or more bars of intro and outro music, allowing you more time to mix in or mix out of your previous/next track.

So, before you just download all radio edit versions of songs like I did, pay a little extra attention. I know for sure BPM Supreme has a distinction between Radio Edit and Clean versions. Some pools don't. Some other sources may just say Radio Edit and halfway through the song an F-Bomb drops.. and you'll find yourself looking at 5th graders and teachers wondering what just happened, lol.

So, in short, Radio Edit MIGHT mean CLEAN version, but likely, it does not.
 
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When it's released by the labels, a radio edit is in fact edited for radio, whether it's a lyrical edit or an edit that shortens the intro or outro of the song.
If your record pool has a song labeled as a radio edit and it's got explicit lyrics, that's their error and they're probably not operating legally anyway.
Versions that have extended intros and outros are just that... extended versions. They're usually created by the record pools or by remix services. Promo Only labels their homemade extended versions as "PO Intro Edit".

In general, the golden rule is "know thy music". You're responsible for whatever comes out of your speakers, regardless of how it's tagged.
 
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I don't do too many school things these days, but when I do, I find it kinda funny that the kids collectively scream out the edited words that have been removed from the clean versions.
 
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I agree 100%. Just wanted to share my story. I assumed that when it said "radio edit" it meant clean. That is not always the case. LOL. Also, now that I'm trying to learn to mix music properly, the longer intros and outros do help.
 
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What I find is in some cases there are those who don't care if you play clean versions of songs or not. In some cases there are those who will consider a song to be clean and yet it will have the N word or B word. Myself I hate playing such songs. I find you need to listen to a song to make sure a song is clean.
 
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What I find is in some cases there are those who don't care if you play clean versions of songs or not. In some cases there are those who will consider a song to be clean and yet it will have the N word or B word. Myself I hate playing such songs. I find you need to listen to a song to make sure a song is clean.
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It amazes me how many times you repeat the same responses
 
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tunes4046 said:
It amazes me how many times you repeat the same responses
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Well that needed repeating. Now the question is what do you do about playing clean music? Is it a big deal to you that the music you play be clean or not? Some young DJs it doesn't matter because they are used to listening to explicit songs all the time. In their minds if it's clean forget it. Now that doesn't mean every young DJ starting out is about such a thing.

I was trying to mentor a young guy just starting out and it wouldn't work. I gave up. I heard they quit DJING a long time ago. What they were into was the ghetto music and the people who listen to it.
 
MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
Well that needed repeating. Now the question is what do you do about playing clean music? Is it a big deal to you that the music you play be clean or not? Some young DJs it doesn't matter because they are used to listening to explicit songs all the time. In their minds if it's clean forget it. Now that doesn't mean every young DJ starting out is about such a thing.

I was trying to mentor a young guy just starting out and it wouldn't work. I gave up. I heard they quit DJING a long time ago. What they were into was the ghetto music and the people who listen to it.
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... Off Topic/Subject of the Thread
 
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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
Well that needed repeating. Now the question is what do you do about playing clean music? Is it a big deal to you that the music you play be clean or not? Some young DJs it doesn't matter because they are used to listening to explicit songs all the time. In their minds if it's clean forget it. Now that doesn't mean every young DJ starting out is about such a thing.

I was trying to mentor a young guy just starting out and it wouldn't work. I gave up. I heard they quit DJING a long time ago. What they were into was the ghetto music and the people who listen to it.
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I’m an old DJ in a bar or club I could care less about the lyrics, at a private event I am much more carefull
 
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tunes4046 said:
I’m an old DJ in a bar or club I could care less about the lyrics, at a private event I am much more carefull
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ThT depends on the bar or club. When I played in the Private Place Lounge they didn't allow the DJ to play hard-core rap or music with explicit lyrics. Eventually they did have to get big man at the front door for security on Friday and Saturday nights. The bar across the street closed and some of the element from there started to come in the lounge. When it was open the police had to sit in the parking lot at closing time to watch out that there were no issues happening.
 
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ThT depends on the bar or club. When I played in the Private Place Lounge they didn't allow the DJ to play hard-core rap or music with explicit lyrics. Eventually they did have to get big man at the front door for security on Friday and Saturday nights. The bar across the street closed and some of the element from there started to come in the lounge. When it was open the police had to sit in the parking lot at closing time to watch out that there were no issues happening.
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I don’t play anywhere that the clientele are potentially troublesome, this is rural Wisconsin, not the hood
 
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tunes4046 said:
I don’t play anywhere that the clientele are potentially troublesome, this is rural Wisconsin, not the hood
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I like that and I understand. There are different areas all across the USA. Some are very nice areas and some are not so nice. Even in nice areas things happen. That's why they have police in the area or a police force near that area. There was a news report about 2 men in Woodbridge, NJ kicked in a door to a house and stole a couple of SUV's from the property. That area is not in the hood.
 
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No disrespect sir. Where was this bar located and did the bar have real security?
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Mix you got to understand most of us here will NEVER have to deal with those problems. The bar gig I do Friday nights has a few characters that show up al the time. In the 4 years I've been there I've seen 3 fights all fists and over in seconds. We don't worry about guns or knives occasionally someone gets feeling like superman and it's handled
 
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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
No disrespect sir. Where was this bar located and did the bar have real security?
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How'd we go from radio edits to security in a nightclub? Oh, right... MIXMASTERMACHOM is here.

Take your subject-changing talents to a different thread. This one isn't about you, bar locations or "real security".
 
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Mix Mix Mix my friend the bar I played at was the Bold Dragon in Cooperstown NY. When we played there i DJed and the two other fellows checked each door as you came in (for age)
. We didn't have guys from the hood coming in causing problems it was the average joe and tourist who worked hard all week coming in blowing off some steam. Lots of times the alcohol would make them think they were superman. When they caused trouble me and the two other fellows would rap our arms around the fellow and push him out the door telling him don't come back tonight. Mix i learned a couple of things back then, I learned how to talk to drunks and how to handle them. Sure, there was a couple of times I got my ass handed to me, but you learn something new every day. I think in the beginning of your career everyone should start play in a bar you really learn a lot about people oh and by the way we would have a fight about every other week to once a month. All in all great place and great memories I don't regret it
 
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