Steve Jobs ( of Apple ) wants to eliminate DRM...

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Papa Deuce

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From the LA Times:

Steve Jobs, the chief executive of Apple, wrote an open letter today asking the music industry to consider giving up anti-piracy software on the digital music it sells.

The letter, which can be seen at www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic, walks through the problems of anti-piracy software, also known as digital rights management, that is supposed to prevent consumers from copying digital music.

Jobs lists the problems with the software, which is often hacked and needs updating and prevents consumers from listening to their music wherever they like. He also points out that consumers are already buying compact discs and copying them digitally without facing controls to stop them.

What the letter doesn't spell out is how Apple and Microsoft were advocates for DRM use so that the music they sold through their online stores could only be played on their devices. Convincing record labels "to license their music to Apple and others DRM-free will create a truly interoperable music marketplace," wrote Jobs. "Apple will embrace this wholeheartedly."

The letter comes as the music and film industries are actively talking about dropping the use of DRMs, which force consumers who buy music on Apple's online store iTunes to use the music only on the company's products. Many in the entertainment industry have expressed frustration with DRM and have talked about other ways to protect content without forcing consumers to stick with one kind of device.

"Rhetorically, he's been disingenuous," said Aram Sinnreich, managing partner at Radar Research in Los Angeles. "He's been metaphorically ramming it down their throats. To be fair, Apple has never been as DRM insane as Microsoft. Apple has put it in enough DRM to make it a pain in the butt for consumers to buy music on iTunes….and use it on non Apple devices."

"This is good for consumers and it's ultimately good for everyone," said Sinnreich.
 
Interesting to see if it actually happens, Given that Apple also now gains position by it's content sales needing it's hardware, it also sells a lot of ipods because of it.

Time will tell how genuine his thoughts really are.
 
The challenge will be getting an industry already hemoraging from piracy to see this as a postive thing. Personally, I don't think it will get much traction. What I see coming would be a different, universal DRM, one that would work on all machines & devices. The other more salient way that I think is better still is real time watermarking every frame of every file. Then they could be played on any device or platform but if the file is copied or shared on the web, fingerprints would be all over them. This however would do nothing to prevent personal copying or sharing over unpublished P2P. I think it will be a while before the rights holders warm up to uncontrolled distribution.
 
The challenge will be getting an industry already hemoraging from piracy to see this as a postive thing.

Maybe, but IMO, DRM is just a nuisance to soemone who want to defeat it.... and it will get defeated.... remember the Sony DRM that was defeated by using a sharpie? :sqlaugh:

There will never be indefeatable DRM.

The companies will give up before the hackers will, IMO.

And, also IMO, these companies are not losing as much to piracy as they would have you believe. They are losing it to piss poor music being shoveled to the public. I don't pirate music. I only buy today's music because of our profession.

For crying out loud, give us something that doesn't feel tired or corporate.
 
There very much is undefeatable DRM, I have seen prototypes that would require very sophistcated resources to defeat. Watermarking for example is impossible to do in any practical sense because it is a small binary number mixed in the frame stream & each buyer would have a unique number used.

I agree that the content blows, maybe the best way to send that message is simply stop playing it? If we reject it for parties, then it doesn't get played.

Don't buy it, don't play it & then that might change. As for being corporate, well I hate to burst your bubble but music has always been corporate. If the suits don't think it will sell it doesn't see daylight, if they do, then it does. They look at salability of a track, not it's musical quality nor it having any life more than days.

The record companies are losing serious money to piracy, Trading crappy music is still piracy.....

If we want better music, then stop playing crap. Refuse to play it. Refuse to buy it. Don't let your kids buy it or listen to it. That as consumers is the only way to make change.
 
There very much is undefeatable DRM, I have seen prototypes that would require very sophistcated resources to defeat. Watermarking for example is impossible to do in any practical sense because it is a small binary number mixed in the frame stream.

I agree that the content blows, maybe the best way to send that message is simply stop playing it? If we reject it for parties, then it doesn't get played.

Don't buy it, don't play it & then that might change. As for being corporate, well I hate to burst your bubble but music has always been corporate. If the suits don't think it will sell it doesn't see daylight, if they do, then it does. They look at salability of a track, not it's musical quality nor it having any life more than days.

The record companies are losing serious money to piracy, Trading crappy music is still piracy.....

If we want better music, then stop playing crap. Refuse to play it. Refuse to buy it. Don't let your kids buy it or listen to it. That as consumers is the only way to make change.


I mean in the sense that corporate guys in suits write this crap, they "assemble" "bands", and inhibit artist's ability to actually make a great song or CD.... I know your meaning, though.

On the other topic, as DJ's it is pretty much impossible NOT to buy new music, right? Can you imagine doing an event, and you have almost nothing less than 10 years old? We wouldn't stay in business.

I have no doubt that they lose money to piracy, and OODLES of it.... But these are frequently THE SAME companies that are making OODLES more money now in DVD sales.... People only have so many entertainment dollars.

I find it hilarious that Sony makes DVD burners that they want you to buy... but they really don't want you to use them to their fullest potential.

I have ZERO sympathy for these companies. They want everything, but want to give up NOTHING.

Again, I don't pirate... but I sure ain't crying about Sony's "losses".
 
In my opinion, because Apple has such a stranglehold on this industry with the Ipod, anything they do in this relm, everyone else will follow.

The Microsoft Zune is a joke and sales prove that (the whole sharing thing is a complete disaster because it expires after 3 plays, even if the song is not protected).
 
Talk about empire building, Jobs would never have made the cash on the ipod that he did without the DRM system. It virtually forced people to buy an ipod to use itunes.

I don't see the entertainment industry folding on this, at least not soon.