What a weird coincidence last night

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tunes4046 said:
more cheap "please sense the sarcasm" speakers
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First I'm having it done with Wix. I'm not going to change the domain name as I have the business cards with that website and don't want to have more business cards printed up. I first have to pay 1 & 1 before I can move the domain name. So I'll get them paid and get the code from Wix to move the domain name. I don't have a clue how to do it and that's why I'm getting my friend to help me out.
 
dunlopj said:
I disagree. His not addressing those two basic questions is his choice.

Isn't there an option to not see postings from any member? That is your choice.
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Yes, I have him on iggy. Yes, I sometimes will click the "show ignored content". My irritation isn't the issue. The issue is that we have a forum member who is NEVER going to be anything but a detriment and bother to the community. He shouldn't be allowed to continue pestering people here and stirring up trouble. He should be kicked out.
 
rickryan.com said:
Yes, I have him on iggy. Yes, I sometimes will click the "show ignored content". My irritation isn't the issue. The issue is that we have a forum member who is NEVER going to be anything but a detriment and bother to the community. He shouldn't be allowed to continue pestering people here and stirring up trouble. He should be kicked out.
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He's only a bother to those that allow it. Come on, he's not gunning for you, so let it roll. We've got better things to do. I view him as comic relief...yes, that may be disrespectful, but Mix is one of those cats that just will not get it.
 
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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
Ihaven't finished up the website as I don't know myself what to do. I keep forgetting I have to contact 1 & 1 hosting to cancel my subscription with them so I can use my domain name with Wix. I'll do that now to see what needs to be done next so I can get the new site up and running soon. My friend that is a expert with computers and repairs them will help me. Hopefully he will be free on Sunday as I can't get him to help me all the time. He has a business to run himself.

Besides I've got work this Friday and Saturday. He's also the guy that works with me sometimes. He just got a great deal. He picked up an original pair of B 36 Earthquakes for $50.00. The person selling them is not a DJ and just wanted them gone. I will call him to see if they work or not. Just the cabinets alone are worth the $50.00 he paid.
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You always have some reason for not doing something and that's fine - as long as you understand - you are holding yourself back from doing any better. You are the single biggest reason why things are not being done and why you are not doing better than you are. Before you answer - several people here have tried to help you in many ways - some have even built a 99.9% complete website for you and was willing to hand it to you, for free - and you turned it away.
 
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MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
Tigger you are 100% correct. A potential client has to see you're worth the price you quote them or they will look elsewhere. We've all done it when shopping for something. Just buying gear we've done it. We look for the best price we can get for an item. Why pay more if you don't have to?

Sometimes you do get better service when you pay a little more by buying from a reliable dealer. What I mean is sometimes it's best to spend a little more for peace of mind.
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But that's not what you said - so now you're contradicting yourself. Your previous post:

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I also understand why he charges what he does. He has mentioned on more than one occasion this is his sole means of support. He doesn't have a day job or other income coming in. So he has to charge what he does or else he couldn't maintain his lively hood. He has told us he has a mortgage, insurance for the vehicles and much more expenses that he has to meet to keep his head above water. So he can't go and do a wedding for $500.00. Where there are those who can because their lively hood is not dependent on DJing. I personally hate myself because I didn't listen to him years ago and slowly increase my rates. I should have took his advice. I made that mistake and it cost me. Now that's some truth about me and not talking about someone else.
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He doesn't charge what he charges because this is his only job. He charges what he charges because people see the value and are willing to buy his product. I'm sure that Bob can do (and does do) a show for $500.00 or even $200.00. It's all in what you can convey to your customer.

Taking his advice then .. or now isn't going to change things. Unless you can show your customers that you ARE worth the price, then raising your rates does nothing.

FWIW, you've also been given tons of advice here that you have failed to adopt - notice a pattern? You are your own enemy.
 
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I too thought the price was a smokin deal.
But there are many things that go into a price. At 1995 it's a deal, he gets the job(s). At $2295 maybe she walks and he gets nothing. Hard to say sometimes.

I'm thinking of offering DJ and Photobooth for $995. 3 years ago a photobooth alone was $1500..they're more like $600-800 now, perhaps lower. At the show i'm doing there are 2 DJs that will do a 5 hour wedding for $500.

So...my take on it is this - I can sell a photobooth and get $600. I can do a DJ gig and get $600. OR I can sell BOTH and $1000. My extra cost is $125 or so for the person to run the booth. So I put $275 more in my pocket really easily.

Now could I get $1200? Perhaps, perhaps not. I can live with the $995 price and it's something that will attract brides - "Show Special Save $200"

Ricky's wife does the photography so it's a nice combo markup for him. If I add photography I'm gonna pay someone a chunk of change to shoot or DJ...still deciding what to do about that.

I could do a $2495 for everything and throw in an album. My cost...maybe $600. A lot more hassle to get the help - had folks call off sick in the past..creates too much stress for me, can affect the final product too much too.

MIXMASTERMACHOM said:
Why should I? We're just talking here. I know I'm a pain in the butt sometimes and I like to start trouble sometimes on purpose. Not this time. You're giving them a great value for that price. I hope they get to see it that way and tjhey just don't focus on the price alone. You assume I'm saying you're doing something wrong and that's not the case. If it works for you I'm happy for you. Almost 2k for all of that is a steal of a deal. Please let us know how it works out for you. Simply put for some that price for some would be a good pay day, while for some others like Bob Carpenter that would be chump change to him because he can sell it for a lot more to someone. That's not a put down on you. Not everybody can come close to what you're doing. Never mind Bob.
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I won't touch photo booths. Not at this point in time. The time to get into that was 2011 or prior.

Also photo booths are a lot of hassle. What if the person you hired to attend it doesn't show? What if it's a person who is lousy at tear down, and you end up having to do tear down and set up...they are essentially just paid to stand there and smile...maybe take the prints and give them to the guests.

The Agent that handles booking DJs and Photo booth, and Up lighting at the agency always tells me "The photo booths are 80% of my hassle and worry". He owns 3 of them and he has an easy time finding girls who will show up to be an attendant for $100, but to find people to actually tear down, set up, and drive back to him is real difficult. He has to often go and tear down, and pick the booth up at the venue himself...sometimes after a dj gig! Sometimes the staff is waiting for him to show up to take the booth down so they can leave. Probably not good when that happens as it reflects poorly from the venue.

Also running DJ and photo booth yourself with no help is a pain. Lots of tear down too at the end of the night. There is a DJ here in Maryland out of Ocean City offering a $895 DJ+photo booth deal, and he does it all himself. His booth looks like it's on the cheap side though.

Then there are the expenses of the booth to deal with. I'll stick to just DJ and Up Lighting. If someone ever asks me about a booth, I will refer them out.
 
IceBurghDJ said:
Ricky's wife does the photography so it's a nice combo markup for him. If I add photography I'm gonna pay someone a chunk of change to shoot or DJ...still deciding what to do about that.
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My opinion, hiring a DJ is MILES easier than hiring a photog. You can get a sub DJ for $300-$500, easy (especially if you supply the gear and they can just walk in and plug in). Photogs will hire out for the same but they'll bail on you quicker, if they land a full-paying job the same night. It does take a while to find good people, which is the key to making any of it work (my opinion). On booth setup/teardown (in answer to Ricky B), if you're using full-sized booths then this is a real issue. You'll have to pay more to get the extra labor. I do open-air so you're only talking a printer/pc/camera and maybe a backdrop. On the booth last weekend and this coming weekend, I've already passed it off to the girl who's doing it and won't have to worry about the hassle. BTW, I pay $100-$125 and consumables cost me $50.
 
I have 2 folks that have been second shooting for me for years, and I've had few if any issues getting one or the other, or both at times. Getting a dj has been impossible on more than one occasion in the past year alone.
the photogs know my style (I trained both)..DJs do their own thing.
 
IceBurghDJ said:
I have 2 folks that have been second shooting for me for years, and I've had few if any issues getting one or the other, or both at times. Getting a dj has been impossible on more than one occasion in the past year alone.
the photogs know my style (I trained both)..DJs do their own thing.
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This is a temporary issue that will be corrected as you meet better quality DJs. My main issue is in looking at it from the client's perspective. DJs can be a lot more hands-off with clients and it's okay. With photogs, they are much more hands on. If you introduce an unknown photog into the equation, the day of (or even a few weeks before), then you have an un-easy client and that's a recipe for disaster. I think the best way to handle it, in terms of hiring a DJ to work with you, is to politely (yet firmly) let them know up front that you will be there and you are the boss. It's best to not micro-manage them, obviously, but if they're informed clearly that they are helping you with YOUR gig, they tend to stay to task a lot better.
 
I'm working on teaching my daughter to be a DJ - but as 12 she's not quite ready to take over. My son at 15 could do it - but has no interest. I'm hoping he really comes to the dance next week and see what it's like - he may change his tune. He's a tad on the introverted side so that i'm sure is a big factor. He wants to do form a band so he's gonna have to learn to get up there and how the gear works sooner or later.
 
IceBurghDJ said:
I'm working on teaching my daughter to be a DJ - but as 12 she's not quite ready to take over. My son at 15 could do it - but has no interest. I'm hoping he really comes to the dance next week and see what it's like - he may change his tune. He's a tad on the introverted side so that i'm sure is a big factor. He wants to do form a band so he's gonna have to learn to get up there and how the gear works sooner or later.
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Please accept this as friendly advice, no offense intended. I would not plan on either the daughter or son taking over DJ duties anytime soon. My son is 18, and quite capable, and I would not turn this over to him either. I usually look at 25-30 as being what I'd consider an acceptable age for handling wedding DJ duties. It needs to be someone who can handle themselves as an adult with hateful drunks. Any younger and you're just sporting for problems. If I were in your situation, I'd put an ad on craigslist and start interviewing some experienced guys who wouldn't mind sub-contracting to you. Put each through an interview process and, if you find anyone you're interested in, take them along with you to co-DJ on a few gigs. The first few guys I'd plan on paying them a fair portion of the prevailing DJ wage. In my case At present, I'm paying between $300-$500 for the DJ portion, depending on experience and how much they're able to successfully take off my plate.
 
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IceBurghDJ said:
My son at 15 could do it - but has no interest. I'm hoping he really comes to the dance next week and see what it's like - he may change his tune.
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Oh you betcha he will change his tune...a room full of young ladies his age...I'd be worried if he DIDN"T show any interest...:)

BTW...I'm assuming it's a school dance of some type...
 
redhotdj said:
Mix does it for free, hire him and you can make even more money :laugh:
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Don't tell that damn lie. Speak for yourself! LOL!

Myself I've known DJs who will bail on a client if another client comes along paying more for that day. I've never done that because I don't want someone putting it out there that I bailed on them. I believe in protecting my reputation. That's the most important thing to me. I don't care if someone was willing to pay $200.00-$300.00 more. There are those that would jump at that deal. Just not worth it to me risking the back lash that will come from stiffing a client for such a small amount of money.
 
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