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JoeChartreuse said:
So how did Dubya retain the office when it was found that he lost the election a few months after he assumed office? ... Either way, when it was found that Bush lost ( if you don't know this please do your own research- that way you won't have to waste thread time), it was never publicly announced and he stayed in office.
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Sorry, Charlie -- It's the Electoral College that counts.

A simple Google search reveals:

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/votes/2000.html

2000 Presidential Election
Electoral Vote Totals

* George W. Bush and Richard Cheney received 271 Electoral Votes
* Albert Gore, Jr. and Joseph Lieberman received 266 Electoral Votes

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/electoral_college_2000.htm

Bush received the Electoral College votes from 30 states (271 votes)
Gore received the Electoral College votes from 21 states (266 votes)

Both sides of the pond agree.
 
Both sides of the pond agree.
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Not sure about that (even though at the time, I used a chad puncher for King George). The Lord forgave me though.



One thing I will say -- it will go down in the history books as "not the most valid US election of all time"...


You can blame either/both sides for that, or the current mess, it doesn't matter. Hell in Handbag ;)

Anybody know if the dollar is worth anything anymore...?
 
in fact I heard a report that the oil barrel is being considered to be valued by another form of circulation than the US dollar due to its devaluating trend and possibly become measured with the Euro per Litre versus U.S. Dollar.
 
So how did Dubya retain the office when it was found that he lost the election a few months after he assumed office?
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Are you kidding or are you really that ill-informed or so uneducated that you can't find credible sources of information?

If there is such a powerful conspiracy underway - how come you know about it? :sqlaugh:

Losing is always easier to swallow when you convince yourself the other side cheated. Unfortunately, (as the second term proves) sour grapes don't win elections.

Political corruption is generally about money, not votes. Those with the money to buy power know the cost is the same regardless of whether you're buying Democrats or Republicans.

The power to change still resides with you and me, we just choose not to exercise it well.
 
SoftJock Rick said:
One thing I will say -- it will go down in the history books as "not the most valid US election of all time"...
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Yup. Just ask the military in Florida and overseas!
 
I find it funny how some say Bush is a blooming idiot.

Yet,

He managed to somehow steal an election.

He manages to every day control the stock price of crude oil.

He managed to somehow cover up his planning (or allowing) of the towers.

Etc.etc.

Must be one lucky idiot.
 
Proformance said:
How is it you can have over 3,000 posts but never heard of Google?

The fact is, you want a good price on your roof - so you don't care if all the workers are documneted.

You don't want to pay what it would cost to have a middle class family man pounding nails on your roof. - So is it any wonder that Brides don't care about the high expenses of middle-aged mobile DJs?

Are you just mean? No. You want cheap because you also want HD television, premium cable, text messaging with video, and mobile internet access.

Doesn't it strike you as odd that people will line up to buy a sports tickets for $1,500 - yet bitch at the auto-mechanic who charges them $600 to fix the brakes on their car?
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Awesome post. I am standing in my office chair applauding..
 
Flyingdjdan said:
I find it funny how some say Bush is a blooming idiot.

Yet,

He managed to somehow steal an election.

He manages to every day control the stock price of crude oil.

He managed to somehow cover up his planning (or allowing) of the towers.

Etc.etc.

Must be one lucky idiot.
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W is an idiot. Ever heard him speak in public without a script?
He has been a puppet of the current regime all along and does what his handlers tell him. Every once in a while he gets to thinking he is actually the president. That is when it gets funny.
 
John P said:
and when I had my roof replaced 2 years ago, it was done by some Polish guys that make $20 an hour.
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weren't these the guys that used to take American jobs away (along with the Ukranians, chinese etc) before the Mexicans came along. Every generation has someone to blame....It's much more convinent than blaming yourself
 
a border fence from San Diego to Brownsville;
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If you send all the illegals home who's going to build the fence?

301,139,950 is the current population of the USA. On the outside estimates there are 20,000,000 illegals. You are trying to tell me that less than 7% of the true population are causing this kind of havoc?

Most illegals are willing to work for little or nothing to live in the land of milk and honey. Most of them do jobs that the average American dosen't want anything to do with

You want to see the economy really go in the ****ter put all the illegals out and pay citizens, if you can find any to do the jobs, twice the rate.

The wealthy are the ones supporting the illegals. Big Business supports the illegals but no one targets them its so much easier to go after the poor and weak than to piss off the ones who got you elected
 
Remember out-sourcing ? When all the jobs were going to go to 3rd world countries where the labor was so cheap?

Well, that didn't work out so well because it sucks having your factory in a foreign country where the government is weak, not well organized, gets overthrown, or decides to nationalize industry.

So here we are with the new corporate plan - bring all the cheap labor here. Hence - the guest worker program.
 
Here is a nice site that offers some balance to the smoke-n-mirrors: FACT CHECK!
 
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