Would you couple your Bose L1s to a powered speaker?

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I was told back in the day when using the 58 setting was the Cats Pajamas that it was not a good match to add other non Bose subs to the equation as the settings in the Bose system were not set for other types of subs. Though you could do as such the tone or the benefits of add on Sub might not sound up to its optimal potential some in the know who attempted such had mentioned the ill effect:sqerr:. Something to that effect. Or simply put not recommended. Someone with better memory than me can count in on my comment. LeBlanc?
 
Thunder said:
...But again I have NO experience with the B1. I did extensive testing and comparision of the L1 and 10 inch conventional speakers using 500 watt amp on the conventional speakers, and there were huge deficits with the L1s!
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Was that a fair comparison then?
I'm not looking to start a fight, I've always respected your views of the Bose because they were based on your personal experience. However it seems that review is skewed. I don't believe the L1 is designed to be used without at least a single B1 to give it full range. And if I remember correctly, the L1 system is not 500 watts.

As to the OP...as has already been mentioned, yes it can and has been done. Reach out to those mentioned that have done it.

As a side note, I don't like Preset 58...too muddy. I keep it flat at 00 and tweak the EQ as needed.
 
jokerswild said:
Same here but, only when the bins are all next to each other. When I separate them I use 58 then but, when together I agree it's muddy.
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I've never separated them. I usually put them under the Dj skirt / table. Sometimes in front of the table.
 
Papa Deuce said:
I've never separated them. I usually put them under the Dj skirt / table. Sometimes in front of the table.
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I don't like having to separate them either but, this past year I've been at about 5 or 6 events where I had to due to some setup quirk or another.... like my Jan 9th gig... and in that Venue I actually like that setup it fills the room better than how I've setup there before.
 
Thunder said:
Just a point here! I never tested the B1 modules, only the L1, I never had the B1 to play with!



But again I have NO experience with the B1. I did extensive testing and comparision of the L1 and 10 inch conventional speakers using 500 watt amp on the conventional speakers, and there were huge deficits with the L1s!
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To me, a DJ trying out these units without any B1's is like taking a car for a test drive on the highway with the windows down and then taking it back because it's too noisy and cold inside the car.:sqwink:

Whoever sold you that unit should have asked you what you plan on using it for. They then should have said DO NOT BUY this system without 2 b1's if you are considering it for DJing. Even with a poor salesperson, a quick search of the website would have alerted anyone to the fact that the company does NOT recommend these units for DJ use without any b1's.

Like anything, when equipment is not used properly, poor results are typical.
 
Actually, a better analogy would be buying a truck that you want to use for snow plowing and then taking it back because it's not very good at pushing snow.

Well, you do need to put a PLOW on the front of the truck.
 
Jon Tuck said:
I was told back in the day when using the 58 setting was the Cats Pajamas that it was not a good match to add other non Bose subs to the equation as the settings in the Bose system were not set for other types of subs. Though you could do as such the tone or the benefits of add on Sub might not sound up to its optimal potential some in the know who attempted such had mentioned the ill effect:sqerr:. Something to that effect. Or simply put not recommended. Someone with better memory than me can count in on my comment. LeBlanc?
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If I'm not mistaken, Cap preferred the DYNACORD powered sub when he felt he needed the chest pounding bottom end.

I believe he had the Powersub 315....
 
Thanks Steve for mentioning that though I was referring to the early days and the 58 setting. Lots has changed along with the revert back to 00 setting and what subs would work best with the stick. Time changes alot of things I suppose.
 
I think what has to be remembered is that any one's typical system is not going to do every job. My RCF 310A's with 705AS sub won't do a 350 kid middle dance in a field house and I suspect any "wedding" system will not perform as well....I'm not going to do 125 guest wedding in a small venue with 4 tops and 2 LS800p's either.

There are those large jobs where extra gear is going to be needed, whether one runs RCF, JBL, Peavey or Dynacord.

This is not just a Bose issue....
 
Steve LeBlanc said:
I think what has to be remembered is that any one's typical system is not going to do every job. My RCF 310A's with 705AS sub won't do a 350 kid middle dance in a field house and I suspect any "wedding" system will not perform as well....I'm not going to do 125 guest wedding in a small venue with 4 tops and 2 LS800p's either.

There are those large jobs where extra gear is going to be needed, whether one runs RCF, JBL, Peavey or Dynacord.

This is not just a Bose issue....
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Totally agree. No one system is perfect for every situation. Too many variables involved. Just like no vehicle is right for everyone's situation. We all have different needs, likes, and responsibilities.
 
jokerswild said:
Adam: Most certainly you can add a powered sub to a L1 system.... and yes, definately you would want to run two L1 systems together assumeing both came with 2 bass bins placing the bins together and using Preset 58 will give you maximum bass response which by the way goes much lower than most subs but... and we all knew there'd be a but... these bass bins no matter how low in frequency response they can go do not reproduce the SPL levels (the bass you feel) that standard subs can even though standard subs typically don't go as low....

Where am I going with this.... well if you want to feel the bass then I would add a powered Sub in conjunction with the Bass Bins and the L1 stands have an output that will allow you to take the audio out to a single sub.

With that said.... I'm not so sure it's even necessary to run a Sub with a Dual L1 with Quad B1 setup unless you want or desire chest pounding bass. But, believe me when I say this the B1's run as a group of 4 coupled to one another on Preset 58 is still a lot of bass that your ears will probably enjoy more even if it doesn't rattle your balls.
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Awesome response.....:sqbiggrin: Couldn't have said it better myself!
 
WaydeWest said:
Was that a fair comparison then?
I'm not looking to start a fight, I've always respected your views of the Bose because they were based on your personal experience. However it seems that review is skewed. I don't believe the L1 is designed to be used without at least a single B1 to give it full range. And if I remember correctly, the L1 system is not 500 watts.

As to the OP...as has already been mentioned, yes it can and has been done. Reach out to those mentioned that have done it.

As a side note, I don't like Preset 58...too muddy. I keep it flat at 00 and tweak the EQ as needed.
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This is interesting guys....as a new Bose user, I've been more apt to use preset 58...and not to derail this thread but do you find that you get - for lack of a better word - "as much bass" when using preset 00 and eq'ing the lows as you would using preset 58? And do you use the Bose remote to eq or your mixer eq or both? I'll be starting Sat's in a small club this week so I hope to get the sound right....
 
I tried 00 and 58.

I dont think it really made all that much difference. But I turned the Bose to the 58 again.

I spose once I team the L1s with some more bass...I might lean towards going in the 00 direction.
 
you have to power down and reset Adam likely why you didnt notice atleast a moderate difference in Bass level.
 
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