52" LCD Flat Panel Screen - Conundrum

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I've been searching and shopping for a 52" LCD for several months. Here's the finalists:

Sharp Aquos LC60C52U
2000:1 native 10,000:1 dynamic 4ms 90lbs $2,498.57 + 7% sales tax

Sony KDL52W3000
2,000:1 native 16,000:1 dynamic 6ms/120hz 81lbs $2,499.95 + 7% sales tax

Vizio GV52L
500:1 native 5,000:1 dynamic 5ms 91lbs $1,800.00 + 7% sales tax

Samsung LNT5271F
2,500:1 native 25,000:1 dynamic 8ms/120hz 70lbs $2,399.99 , no tax, shipping free from NewEgg.com

I have never purchased a TV on-line and apparently NewEgg has a great reputation but, man, am I skittish.

Can anyone lend some advice or experience with any of these models and about NewEgg in particular?
 
can't tell you about the TV's... but have NO FEAR with newegg. I must have bought a dozen things from them. Most expensive was $500ish.

All arrived INCREDIBLY quickly. Never had a service issue, but they are known for good customer service, and, of course, a good price.

I love newegg.
 
Well, this issue is done already.

I had to view the 52" Samsung LCD in person so it was time for a road trip to Boscov's. Conveniently it was situated between the Sony and the Sharp. At 15'-20' my eyes said the Samsung was clearly (very "clear"ly), hands down, the winner.

Worked some magic with Boscov's. Done deal.
 
i was going to say the samsung to purely because of the fact it is 20lbs lighter than the next closest!
 
I have sold a couple of Samsung LCD Televisions this holiday season, I say you cannot go wrong with those. Sharp would be my second pick. I have not personally viewed these at Best buy but from those I know who have them, they are very satisfied. Also I'd reject to Vizio for low contrast ratio.
 
I would also say go with the best contrast ratio. Go into any wal mart and compare the sets side by side. The higher ratio is so much better picture quality.
 
The low price tag under the screen makes it only seem a little brighter. :sqwink:
 
You can't necessarily go by how the TVs look on the showroom floor because they're often miscalibrated to seem to have a better picture. When they're properly calibrated, their true picture quality can be underwhelming. *

* This is what I've read in Robert Harley's book, "Home Theater for Everyone."
 
You can't necessarily go by how the TVs look on the showroom floor because they're often miscalibrated to seem to have a better picture. When they're properly calibrated, their true picture quality can be underwhelming. *
What? That just plain doesn't make a lick of sense.

If the picture is better miscalibrated that would seem to be issue with the person who wrote the calibration procedure and not the electronics.
 
I think what Bryan means, is that sometimes they set the tv's to maximum settings many times, so that they look good, but in the long run, these settings shorten the life of the TV.

I actually saw that on a home theater DVD setup disc.
 
What? An analogy would be that heavy compression makes a song sound better when compared to an uncompressed song. Yet the dynamic range of the compressed song is severely narrowed. It's not natural and is not the way it was intended to be heard.

Most people shop for a TV by going to the local appliance store and walking sown a row of dozens of models, comparing the picture quality of a few sets in their price range. They then choose the one with the "best" picture. Such other factors as brand reputation, warranty, and features may also play roles, but the way the set looks in the store is often the overriding attribute.

But the picture quality you see in the store bears little resemblance to the way the set can look when properly calibrated. TV sets' color, contrast, brightness, sharpness, and tint are often deliberately miscalibrated at the factory to be competitive (look more appealing) on the showroom floor. The settings may not be accurate or produce a pleasing picture in the long run, but the miscalibration sells more TVs. In fact, picture quality is in some ways more dependent on proper calibration than on the set's intrinsic quality. That's why it's hard to compare pictures in a showroom to determine which set will provide you with the best picture quality. Smart home-theater enthusiasts learn how to make their sets look better and last longer through calibration.

Marketing studies have shown that consumers buy sets based on a single criterion: how bright the picture is. To make sets stand out when placed next to competing units, their brightness is turned up -- to as much as four to six times the correct light output level. The color balance is shifted toward blue, again to give the impression of greater brightness. It's no coincidence that laundry detergent has a bit of blue dye in it to make clothes look "whiter than white." More important, this excessive brightness shortens a TV set's life.

There's a direct parallel here with the way some loudspeakers are designed. [Some speakers] are designed to exaggerate the bass and treble so that the speaker "jumps out" in side-by-side comparisons with other speakers. Such a product might impress in a brief showroom demonstration, but quickly becomes annoying and fatiguing in daily use.

It's the same with intentionally miscalibrated displays: An overly bright set may look good at first, but is ultimately unnatural-looking. Just as budding audiophiles go through a phase of liking excessive treble and bass in speakers before their taste becomes attuned to a more natural sound, the novice home-theater enthusiast may at first not like the look of a properly calibrated monitor. But if, after a few weeks, the contrast were set back to what it had been, he would find the picture grossly distorted, and wonder how he ever liked the overly bright picture.
 
It is true. You don't see the Pro Video Guys going to B&H looking at Sony PVM Monitors lol. The PVM Monitors are calibrated to the NTSC Color bars, typically at 75% IRE.

When my parents insisted we pickout a TV, I got the guy to set the color settings exactly as the other picture. From there they made a decision... Plasma or LCD lol.