How Will A System Be Judged.

jokerswild said:

I guess all us Bose owners don't know what we are talking about and should amend our ways and rejoin the flock..... NO THANK YOU!

If being a Bose user and providing unparalled sound enjoyment to our clients is a crime and punishable, then send me to jail.

There is nothing to be gained by using conventional speaker systems for the type of events done by me. I don't desire them and neither do my clients for if they did they would have hired you (metaphorically speaking).

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Rob,

You see that is part of the problem here.

1. As a Bose owner you think every comment is an attack on the Bose system
when it is not.

2. You talk about "providing unparalled sound enjoyment to our clients" and then take exception to the comment "for what it is".

3. When in fact you go on to state "There is nothing to be gained by using conventional speaker systems for the type of events done by me" and this is exactly what I and many others have said.

As I said before "the Bose system just like many others including Jon's Dynacord system are niche systems and are excellent for what they do. While for the gigs you do the L1s may be the perfect solution but many of us do not limit ourselves to one or two types of gigs. I have the capability to put 20,000 watts of power to a system capable of handling that power. Yes I have invested a lot more than the cost of a couple of L1's into these systems but on the other hand my system can be broken down and used to cover 6 to 8 smaller gigs without a problem so I have a versatility that single system owners simply don't have.

I looked at the Bose system and found it lacking for what I do. I listened to and tested the Bose system and didn't find that it performed any better or sounded any better than a properly setup conventional system. I found that the Bose system was extremely limited in it's volume capabilities V it's cost. And came to the conclusion that it was not what I needed as an addition to to my systems for the type of work my company does.

Again this is not to say that the Bose is a bad system only that it fills a niche that I do not want to limit my gigs too.

I purchased the EV ZX1's for a small system main speaker set and found them incapable of producing what I needed and wanted as well again not to say they aren't good speakers, they are, they simply were not capable of producing the spl levels I wanted without introducing distortion, or handling the power that I use in the field. Since I didn't have the option of returning them I put them in the studio as "a mains sound system, which I had been using a pair of Peavey impulse 200P's for that purpose, honestly The little EVs with a small sub sound better in the studio than the Impulse did (so for what they are they are perfect for the application I am using them for).

So every speaker system does have it's place and use.

Ron Auger said:

I think not knowing much about the actual workings of sound systems is a plus for me.

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Do you tell your clients that you do not understand the actual workings of sound systems?

Anti-intellectualism is not a selling point. Being less knowledgeable about your craft is never a good thing.

soundinmotiondj said:

Do you tell your clients that you do not understand the actual workings of sound systems?

Anti-intellectualism is not a selling point. Being less knowledgeable about your craft is never a good thing.

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Yep, I tell them I'm a blooming idiot when it comes to sound systems. I won't let them sign contract right away and I encourage them to seek out other entertainment first. This way I figure they won't hire me. I like to wear one of those t-shirts that look like a tux and if I can't put the chicken dance in the contract then there's no deal. But for some damn reason, after all of that, these foolish people keep paying me to entertain them. You'd figure after more than 20 years they'd learn their lesson.

Oh, and as a hobby I like to take statements out of context and blow them out of proportion. It's fun.

Jon, let it go man. It's only equipment. Sure, it's the best equipment but it's still only equipment. Did you know that Bose even has speakers handling the sound in the machines in Atlantic City casinos? Even when you loose you win with great sounding slot machines.

Bose, the name and equipment everyone knows for quality and expert sound.

Is this Al Jolson?:sqerr:

Jon Tuck said:

here is another shot of him to help solve the mystery

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Jon: I'm not gonna tell ya again.... stay out of your girlfriends makeup... u's not old enough to wear it.

ahoustondj said:

Ron,
According to you the Inn is historic so that means its been there for quite awhile. What did you and other DJs use before the L1s came along? Are you the only DJ that now plays there? if not, what are the other DJs using?

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No, according to them. http://www.wayside.org/ I'm not sure why you're so insisting on proving everything I say to be wrong but you can see for yourself.
Before the L1's with venues such as this the only choice we had were the speakers on sticks. Putting a 15" speaker not 4-6 feet away from a table was never fun. But, since the new technology a few years ago of the Bose L1 system I can place one speaker in the same location and cover the area 10x better. And best of all people don't know they are speakers because they don't look like or sound like what most people are use to. The dispersement of the L1 is far superior of what was used in the past. For years we used what was available. When new technology is introduce that will work better and provide the guest a better listen experience then I will use it. Of course that's just my personal opinion.

I do know that one of the DJ's that are on their preferred vendors list is using the L1's. I know of at least a dozen DJ's within one of our networking groups are using L1's. Many others wish you were but due to price they settle for JBL's, Mackie's, etc.

:yofaint::yosleep: Yawn......

Well, thank goodness we don't have you around here to be afraid for us. I'd hate to think we were the cause of you being so afraid. After all you'd have us out shined when it comes to equipment so all we would have to compete with is just our talent and skill. I guess if that were the case we'd all have to close shop. So I guess I just have to live with the facts as I know and experienced them. Bose L1 is the number 1 sound system that best pleases the guests at most wedding receptions in this area. Bose L1 is a plus for anyone operating in the majority of wedding venues in this area. And mostly, people in this area just love Bose. Talent, skill, price? It's over rated.

Lastly! Calm down, be cool, yer blood pressure will go up if you keep thinking we are all out to git yer! Only Jon is! Pibull yapping at yer ankles? Don't worry, we have a strong chain on him. You'll get used to the growling!

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Git me? all of you? Look around, you must be awfully lonely. Cool and calm here. I'm in New England where it's nice and cool. It takes a lot more than someone on a chat board to get my blood pressure up. What's a "Pibull". Is that one of those annoying little dogs people keep in their pocket? The kind that yelp and nip at your heals? Let the llittle mutt go, every dog just needs a little wack on the nose to teach them a lesson.