Weddings "Love Story" - How To?

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simplyfrank said:
I took the class, I believe in it...
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And yet you don't do them yourself. You explained why and that is good enough for me; however, since you don't do them what are your qualifications for saying anything about them? Going back to Justin's original request, it was for people that do them. I do them. Perhaps you don't like the way that I do them but at least I do them.

simplyfrank said:
IMark is the Originator of the love story
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No, Mark is the originator of the workshop. Any competent DJ can put together a Love Story.

So, maybe it is time for you to move on.
 
TommyO said:
And yet you don't do them yourself. You explained why and that is good enough for me; however, since you don't do them what are your qualifications for saying anything about them? Going back to Justin's original request, it was for people thyat do them. I do them. Perhaps you don't like the way that I do them but at least I do them.
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LOL... I don't need to say any thing else.. LOL...

... but I will... I've never seen you do love story, so I cannot (and have not said) whether I like them or not.. :)

Nor do I pass any judgement on whether you do a good job or not...

I simply suggested the Love Story Workshop to anyone who is doing it, because I believe in it and I believe that the originator of the love story should get the respect he deserves :)

TommyO said:
No, Mark is the originator of the workshop. Any competent DJ can put together a Love Story.

So, maybe it is time for you to move on.
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LOL... Anybody that's ANYBODY in the American DJ Association will tell you Mark is the originator of the Love Story...

I'm glad that you take the time to get your facts straight before posting anything on a website...

And I will move on, there are better things to do than dwell on the mis-information you are providing! :)

Cheers !
 
simplyfrank said:
LOL... Anybody that's ANYBODY in the American DJ Association will tell you Mark is the originator of the Love Story...
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Hmmm...

I did something like a Love Story back in 1984 when I performed my first wedding. I didn't call it a Love Story but it had the same elements. I just thought of it as an extended introduction with sound clips and music to make it more interesting. BTW, I did it live, with CDs, and on Radio Shack gear then.

I got the questionnaire when I used DJ Intelligence and made enhancements to it to make it my own.

As I said, any competent DJ can be creative enough to produce a Love Story on their own without a work shop. I have nothing against Mark doing the work shop and if people want to spend their money on it to get his cookie cutter method, then fine, do what ever you want with your money.

BTW, while I have a questionnaire I don't produce the Love Story in a cookie cutter format. Each is unique and each becomes the property of the bride and groom.

BTW BTW, isn't Mark off selling paintings on cruise ships?
 
simplyfrank said:
The love story, is different for every couple.. but 2 minutes is not enough time to do a LOVE STORY to the fullest effects...

As a matter of fact, done right, people, the guest, the couple's family would want it to go on for longer than it takes... But that's only if it's done right...

Why do something half ass???? Even if you do it for free shouldn't you care enough about your bride and groom to give them a quality love story??? Or are you of the mentality, it's free so they get what they paid for? Still why do it?
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simplyfrank said:
I've never seen you do love story, so I cannot (and have not said) whether I like them or not.. :)
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Your quote above has already passed judgement on the way I do the Love Story and, as you said, you have not seen me do one.

The Love Story and Montages are limited by human attention span. I keep both as short and exciting as I can.
 
TommyO said:
As I said, any competent DJ can be creative enough to produce a Love Story on their own without a work shop. I have nothing against Mark doing the work shop and if people want to spend their money on it to get his cookie cutter method, then fine, do what ever you want with your money.

BTW, while I have a questionnaire I don't produce the Love Story in a cookie cutter format. Each is unique and each becomes the property of the bride and groom.

BTW BTW, isn't Mark off selling paintings on cruise ships?
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You just love to give out bad information don't you... Wow!!!

Cookie-cutter... now that's a good one...

BTW for the love story, there is no questionnaire... just so you know.. :)
 
simplyfrank said:
BTW for the love story, there is no questionnaire... just so you know.. :)
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Maybe for Mark's there isn't but for mine there is.

You seem to want to do things only Mark's way. See what I mean by cookie cutter? Somebody shows you how to do it their way and then every other way is wrong.

It does not have to be a questionnaire. It can be an interview and I have done it that way as well. You can also solicit the parents if you want to get those little tidbits of the bride and groom's life growing up. It takes out of the box thinking to customize how it is presented and how to gather the information.

I've even set things up to have the bride and groom record sections of the script in their own voice. Again, out of the box thinking.

But, Mark has you penned up in his box, doesn't he? You only know how to do it Mark's way so any deviations to that method I offer is wrong.

Enjoy your penned in world.
 
Hey Tommy, I would pay YOU to learn how you do a "Love Story". But I have a feeling you would refuse my money, and have me buy you lunch instead. That's what I call networking and leadership in our industry.

btw. where is Ron Auger when we need him! :)
 
Another method of doing a Love Story.

YouTube - ri wedding dj video 2 ramu the dj love story 617 240 0879

YouTube - Music in Motion DJ Ent. Seymour CT "Love Story" tease


Another example

I believe that one was 2:15.

YouTube - A Better Sound presents: The "Love Story of Stephen Prickett & Kate McAdam - NBC10

YouTube - Love Story - Lyndsy & Kevin

YouTube - Love Story in a Barn

As you can see, there are numerous ways to do the Love Story. It is limited only by your own imagination and does not have to follow any particular pattern.
 
TommyO said:
You only know how to do it Mark's way so any deviations to that method I offer is wrong.
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And that truly is the problem with workshops. Many people do not know how to or have the confidence to go beyond the presenters method. They continue to use what was presented and drive it into the ground.
 
The only ones I would say who are "driving it into the ground" are those who are misinformed of the original concept and those who perform it in a "cookie cutter" manner. The people whose minds are closed are those who refuse to try to understand the method of performing a Love Story. Be careful. You just might learn something.
 
Mitch Taylor said:
The only ones I would say who are "driving it into the ground" are those who are misinformed of the original concept and those who perform it in a "cookie cutter" manner. The people whose minds are closed are those who refuse to try to understand the method of performing a Love Story. Be careful. You just might learn something.
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The original concept is the telling of the tale of how the bride and groom met, how they fell in love, and how they got to the "I do's". That concept has been around before Mark developed his work shop. When it comes down to it, it is a method of introducing the bride and groom or toasting them. All Mark did was stick a name on it.

As I said, I used something like it back in 1984 when I did my very first wedding. I did it several times through that first DJ career and picked it back up in 2001 when I got back into the business and before I had even heard of Mark Ferrel.

I never do it the same way twice and I enjoy introducing new elements to it.

Maybe, some day, I'll check out Mark's workshop but some day may never come. Until then I'll muddle along doing things the way my clients want them.
 
TommyO said:
Quality is in the eyes of the beholder. My clients have been happy with the product and guests have liked the idea and presentation. So, with that knowledge, why spend the money on the workshop? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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How do you know they have liked the idea? Just maybe....there's a better way of approaching it that you haven't thought of yet.

TommyO said:
I also tell them that there is no extra charge. Most opt to not do it.
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Why do you think "most opt to not do it"?

TommyO said:
I describe it as a photo montage without the photos. It paints a picture of their lives and how their love came to be through words, sounds, and music.
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Why? Is that what the Love Story is to you? A photo montage without photos?

TommyO said:
I actually get more clients buying the photo montage add on, which I do charge for.
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Again...why?
 
TommyO said:
The original concept is the telling of the tale of how the bride and groom met, how they fell in love, and how they got to the "I do's". That concept has been around before Mark developed his work shop. When it comes down to it, it is a method of introducing the bride and groom or toasting them. All Mark did was stick a name on it.

As I said, I used something like it back in 1984 when I did my very first wedding. I did it several times through that first DJ career and picked it back up in 2001 when I got back into the business and before I had even heard of Mark Ferrel.

I never do it the same way twice and I enjoy introducing new elements to it.

Maybe, some day, I'll check out Mark's workshop but some day may never come. Until then I'll muddle along doing things the way my clients want them.
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Hmm...four references to the man yet someone else is pushing his workshops. Sounds like you're doing a pretty good job of that yourself Tom...Thanks!

In all seriousness, I'm glad if it's working for you but I would always encourage anyone to never be satisfied with the status quo. You can ALWAYS do better. It's when we get complacent that we get stagnant and some other younger whipper-snapper replaces us quicker than we can say "Love Story"!
 
Where did Tom ever say that his way was "the best," "the right" or "the only" way to do things? Yet you guys come in here just judging, slamming, and pushing an agenda.

Sure, your beloved "trademark holders" put a name on it and put a spin on it that made it something nice, but that doesn't mean they originated the idea or that they have "the only way" of doing anything.

Its not the self-learners who are self-righteous here, nor are they the one's closing their minds off.

COULD someone like Tom who has been delivering them for years doing his own method learn something from "the masters?" Sure, maybe. If his clients are happy with them and he's happy doing them, who care's?

Ever stop to think - and here's the mind blower - that it may very well have taken Mark years to develop and perfect, and subsequently his followers and students hundred of dollars - to simply do what others are able to come up with on their OWN?

:sqmad::sqeek::sqmad: The HORROR you say!

Be careful - perhaps it is YOU who could benefit from stepping out of the masters mold and shadow.

But be careful now - you might just learn something!:rofl::sqlaugh::rofl:
 
well how about people that are way too far away

they just cant jump on a plane and spend 20x or so hrs then do a seminar then back on a plane just to hear a person that has an over inflated ego at times

no thanks i'll learn other ways that really benifit
or I will just not use it at all..


DJ Jake B said:
Then why would you be doing it. Aren't you just a part time DJ?
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then saying that isnt good
how long you been djing for was that 5mins or 5hrs lol
I have been djing for 30+ years actually 32 and as of 30th of july I decided to go into SEMI RETIREMENT
I do what shows, I want, when I want
so when you decide that your better than anyone else think of who knows more than you and how much more experience some one really has before commenting



have a nice day
 
simplyfrank said:
LOL... Anybody that's ANYBODY in the American DJ Association will tell you Mark is the originator of the Love Story...
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Can you please show documentation on this? Where is it a fact?

Back since the 1980's when I first began, the MCs where using the Love story before the couple made their grand entrance to their Bridal Shower not on their wedding. This was way back in the early 1980's. Propaganda is good at ADJA and many believe the hype. I don't need to be a member to know that it did not start there. I know for a fact that Latin MC's here in Miami where using it at many Bridal Showers that I played, right before the couple entered the hall and made their grand entrance, the MC will read a short story about the couple. So that is nothing new and has been around for more then 20 years!!!!!
 
Frank and Mitch:

At this point, if I were you, I'd run, not walk, but run away from this thread and hide for a while.
 
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