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Tyrone and the others,

Please except my apologize for getting a bit upset. Nothing futher needs to be said. Everyone here has done nothing more than try to understand the correct usage for this product. Thanks again for your efforts.

I have taken the unit apart and have found two fans and 100w bulb. I could not find any markings on the transformer. As I stated earlier, I ran a transparency for about 15 min. with no melting. The key for me was to pull the first lens a bit away from the housing. this allows air flow to move behind the lens.
 
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Tyrone, your offer sounds great to me. All I ask is that you post the truth here on this site on what you find in your evaluation between the two units, the same place the negative comments were made.
People seem to have gotten confused by the Color Holiday Gobos on the table at the booth and the Gobos that you can make on your own computer at home. The color Gobo slides at the booth were not transparencies we made at GoboMan, as I mentioned they actually are part of a ourdoor holiday projector set that sells them every christmas, but they also fit the goboman light so I thought I would buy a few thousand of them and offer them them as an addittional option for the light. You saw at the show they did not smoke burn or melt. There was no snake oil changing of slides or anything shifty like that going on.
There were NO homemade gobos in the booth at the show. Dj scottie is the only one I know that has posted pictures of his homemade gobos. . but there were none present at the booth. There was just steel and the holiday colored slide gobos that were round and some custom steel ones. Those slides we showed were being placed in front of the glass on the first lens closest to the lamp. Transparencies go in the brackets on the first lens with the lens backed off about 1/2"on the 100 watt unit but not needed on the 75 watt unit. Can also depend on the colors used.

The thing is, we didin't start out trying to market a Gobo light unit so people could maketheir own homemade gobos, it was just something that came up during the first MB show talking with customers. After all, I am a custom gobo manufacturer primarily, so having customers make their own gobos at home isn't the greatest thing for business,but it is good for the light and makes the unit attractive to someone that can't afford to make a custom steel gobo for $59.95.

Cheap product. Yes, it is! I think any light fixture less than $100.00 is a cheap product. Will it work, that is another question. You get what you pay for and as with every purchase you have to look at the positives and negatives, is it right for what you do in your business.The thing is, that there are not that many units on the market that let you make your own gobos at all, if that is the way you want to go. Yes, maybe you could try a overhead preojector,
Product reviews I have no problem with, getting the facts correct is another thing. If I was concerned about product reviews I wouldn't offer pictures of the inside of the units, or units for evaluation.
 
Gents...you'd be feeling a lot better if you knew what I paid for the 100W light back in December. At the time, I felt the price to be fair and was glad I made the purchase..and still am. We all miss a sale now and then...I just get to expense a few dollar more than you all! :sqlaugh:

Booch
 
Thanks GoboMan (aka Steve... ?)

I see the second fan inside the light blowing toward the front...

I have a design question which you or someone else can help me understand better...

100 watts has two fans:
The top one or the one you can see outside the unit blows out of the unit while the internal fan blows toward the light. The only openings are slots on the top. Knowing the heat rises would it be better with a few opening at the bottom of the unit to let air flow from the bottom to the top. What I see is that the internal fan pulls air from the top slots were the air is a little hotter than the air below the unit.

Is the internal fan design to cool the blub while the outside fan is used to pull the heat air out...???

I would think that by placeing holes or small openning on the bottom would
help more cooler air to pass through the unit.

Last note on design...
Having the rear blowing air hot toward the len
doesn't help cooling the first len...
ouch...
I just burn my finger...

(And the same thing happen to your wife...)

*****
If anyone missed it before, I sold my first gobo to a client and I hear her said:
"Ooo that is going to look cool seeing our names in lights."
So I had my money back for the light the first time I sold a gobo...

Ya, I was one of those who thought I could make my own gobo on the fly but at the end I don't have the time and don't want to mess around so I'm getting my money back for the film I got...

Not I'm head $33...

:)
 
GoboMan

I agree with your suggestions regarding placement of the fans. Better air flow from the correct directions inside the unit can provide not only longer gobo life, but lamp and electronics life also. I have made suggestions to the factory about better airflow and also quieter fans, but the sad fact is that there is just not enough volume being sold for them to justify making a new housing and mold. Sorry, but that is the truth. I thought of making holes in the bottom of the unit for better air flow, but is is blocked by the circuit board, and the back of the unit is blocked from the transformer block.
 
Ya, I saw those thought the top and front opennings...

I haven't try to open it yet but I may...

I totally understand about sold vs redesign...

Since we are talking about this unit here are the main points which led be to buy it...

>>> DJ Scottie review of the unit...
>>> DJ Scottie being able to create his own Gobo with color...
>>> The size the weight of the unit...
>>> and Lastly the price of the unit and the cost of replacement blubs...
  • The first day I got the unit I was happy...
  • The first time I try to get the film to work I got say...
  • The first client that ask about gobo for their wedding and having the unit right there to show off, I got happy again...
  • The first I heard a client sound excited about having their name in lights, got me very very happy...

Like a lot in the business of entertainment;
Having happy clients is our goal and
on that day having a Gobo light available to show off was great...
Did it help to land the job...???
In this cast no but it did get my client happier...
and that only cost me $85.00 but now $0.00

The their wedding isn't until August so I have a lot of time to order there Gobo which their took the gobo pdf sample with them...

So Far, So Good

:)

*****
I still would love to be able to create my own quick Gobo
so Steve if you have a step by step on how to I would
love to have it...

Thanks for post on this board...
and I still say you are one lucking guy...

:sqwink:
 
GoboMan

If you scroll down on the goboman page showing the 75 watt or 100 watt fixture, there is as downloadable pdf. of "Transparency Tips" showing needed sizes etc... If you need it emailed or faxed, just let me know and I will be happy to send it to anyone. I think the key I have learned from DJ Scottie and others that are making their own gobos, is to be able to get the blackest blacks for your background, this prevents light bleed through. Keep in mind the black ink in the background acts the same way the steel would on a steel custom gobo, blocking all the unwanted light.
 
Ya, it doen't come down to three things:

First, the black better be really black to look nice...
Second, your printer better a nice printer...
Lastly, the paper better be nice film.
I'm using Mylar which I use at work for printing drawings...

Even with the better stuff it will not look as good as a steel Gobo...

I still am getting the halo effect because where I need to locate the film because of heat
Plus, I don't want to worry about smoking or melting.
If a client want it, I will only use the steel for now...

I have to many things to worry about without also
adding creating slides that make smoke...

Remember I'm got the 100 watts which
isn't the one that Scottie shown he was using...

I don't know if having 75 watts would work for me now...

It all comes down to
The right light using the right Paper printed on a nice printer...

If any of these isn't right than it will not look nice...

That what I have found using the 100 watts unit...

*****
Now I need to get back to what I do best
and that is DJ and selling my business...

It was fun (not really) but I need learn a few things...

Thanks everyone...

CadDog...
Over and Out
 
Scottie's is indeed 75 watts and he uses the cheaper, house branded transparency to print on. From Staples I believe... If you guys want your stuff to look like Scottie's then just get a 75 watt unit. I remember when Scottie checked with them, he told me that they suggested the 75 watt unit if he was going to be making his own transparencies, so that's what he bought. He's been happy ever since. OK, it's not all that bright but it looks pretty good and the gobos are cheap enough to make. Will a PR1 blow it away? Sure... But then you'll have to fork out the big bucks for each custom gobo and pass the cost onto the client. Not every client want to pay for these little extras but being able to throw in a FREE gobo is a good way to close a deal.
 
I think Scottie was the biggest seller of this unit with just his simple but effective use. He was the reason I purchased mine. I would however, if you are going to purchase either unit, to buy the 100w. For transparency gobo's all you need to do is pop in a 75w bulb. At Bulbs America you can buy them for a few bucks. Then when you wish to purchase a custom or metal gobo you can just put the 100w bulb back in. That was my reasoning for buying the 100w in the first place. I already had the 75w bulbs.
 
maestro said:
.... Sure... But then you'll have to fork out the big bucks for each custom gobo and pass the cost onto the client. Not every client want to pay for these little extras but being able to throw in a FREE gobo is a good way to close a deal.
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Exactly my good man...
 
djharryg said:
They sell bulbs in Home Depot.

They sell the bulbs in Walmart.

They sell the bulbs in Target.
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Only speaking for the stores in my area. The highest watt bulb of this type that they sell is 50w. On line you can get all types of flood, spot, etc. in different wattages. Plus they are a lot cheaper on line.
 
Ron Auger said:
Only speaking for the stores in my area. The highest watt bulb of this type that they sell is 50w. On line you can get all types of flood, spot, etc. in different wattages. Plus they are a lot cheaper on line.
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How 'bouts a link for us impaired folks?

Booch
 
Boy...!!!
This Gobo Threat is still going...???

:)
 
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