"Normalizing?"

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Sounds To Go

Sounds To Go

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Dec 22, 2008
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One of the things I am wondering about, and I have no hands-on experience with the various software bundles around other than about half an hour in Rockit so far - is the ability to automatically "normalize" track gain/volume across multiple tracks or a playlist.

One of the big advantages I see in "going digital" (I know, I know - as if cd's aren't a "digital" format) is that it will free me from my shackles at the mixer with the ability to queue up selections in advance.

But this ability itself almost doesn't seem like it will be beneficial at all if I am still going to have to deal with differing track volumes, set gains in headphone queue, etc for each upcoming track... Im still tethered to the board unless I want to risk drastic increases or decreases in volume if I step away, no?

Is there any feature/method/etc I am missing that is common in the various software bundles that let you get over/around this, or are we still tethered to our table/mixer with the only real advantage now being the ability to load the drunk girls request faster??:sqlaugh:
 
even my am/fm radio cant "normalize" volume/gain on all songs.its like adjusting an EQ to fit different songs.
 
Sounds To Go said:
Is there any feature/method/etc I am missing that is common in the various software bundles that let you get over/around this, or are we still tethered to our table/mixer with the only real advantage now being the ability to load the drunk girls request faster??:sqlaugh:
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Yeah, run MP3Gain on your music files -- works pretty decent, and is un-doable if you don't like the results. This way you don't need to worry about which software you are using. :)
 
I have several programs on my computer (even audio grabber) that will normalize individual tracks, but those products wont normalize a BATCH of tracks or a library to a uniform standard will they? Only volume of the entire track itself that gets normalized.

I also want to avoid this if I can because normalization will be yet another degradation in quality on top of the sacrifice I've already decided to make by going to MP3 in the first place.

Oh well, thanks!
 
MP3Gain does not degrade the file, and yes, it does batch :)

I used to have AGC in Rockit (actually it's still in there, just took it out of the Config section, and turned off by default -- it can still be accessed via the INI file). MP3Gain works much better across a batch load of tracks, which is why I did what I did, since MP3Gain is free.

Try it -- you'll probably be pleasantly surprised :)
 
Nice, thanks! But just to clarify... does it actually normalize ACROSS a batch, or simply let you specify a 'batch' of files to process? There is a difference!:sqwink:

I trust you know what you're talking about - I just want to be sure.:sqlaugh:

If that program does work, I dont want to use it for the entire library, only for a dedicated folder with copies of some of the typical/traditional cocktail and dinner playlists - Those are the times I am apt to be wandering around doing things. Not concerned about trying to auto-pilot dance segments.
 
Yes, there are a couple different ways MP3Gain works -- one is across a batch of tracks (that is how I do my folders I use for my in-home music).

Read the included help file, and it will explain each of the ways to normalize within the program.
 
Wouldn't it be great if we could run PEOPLE through a "normalization" process?

Nah, that would make the world all too boring.

Wasn't there a movie based on such a theory?

But on a serious note, I use mp3Gainm on all my tracks - makes auto running music for cocktails easier as all music will be the same volume. Plus mixing is better for the same reason.
 
If you used a DJ software like Serato Scratch Live or Serato iTch, you wouldn't have to run mp3 gain (which reduces audio quality if you're normalizing an mp3).

You build 'analysis or overviews' on Serato and it will adjust the individual volume of each and every music file in your collection to a pre-defined dB value (I set mine to 92dB). This value does not stick with the actual song, it just stays with your Serato installation/settings. I don't have to adjust the left or right up/down fader volume levels now when going from track to track like in the days of vinyl. My entire collection is around 92dB. You can actually see the individual gain knob adjusted in the software for each individual track as you play it in either play deck.
 
Gaffle said:
you wouldn't have to run mp3 gain (which reduces audio quality if you're normalizing an mp3).
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There is no degradation using MP3Gain -- it does not re-encode the file -- it adjusts the relative loudness of samples within the frames.
 
Does either of these programs take the whole drive at one time or would I have to go folder by folder or even album by album, that would take a month or two.
 
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