Where are the millenials???

Craft beer houses/taprooms, coffe houses, college campus parties, cosplay events, gaming, feeling entitled, protesting and disregarding all of society's rules that are of no use to them.

Tunes, I see the same thing and honestly I enjoy it. The places I am at I am seeing mainly 29-45 group and they are there to have a good time. It has been a nice the past couple of years.

Millennials do not have the expendable income that younger people had 10+ years ago. Also they have generally become smarter about going out, and are not drinking and driving as much as previous generations.

They are more into "Netflix and Chill" and playing Video Games on Xbox360 or XboxOne or PS4 all night long.

My younger brother is 30 and doesn't go out to bars. He never has! He goes to the Gym, or he is in his room playing XBOXONE online with people playing games. My nephew who isn't 21 yet is the same way...Plays XBOX probably more than 20 hours per week usually late at night until early morning hours.

Also, Bars are boring for younger people. Even myself, I can't sit in a bar drinking for a long period of time. If I am with a group of friends, I can maybe chill in a bar for 3 hours, but if I am with a buddy or solo...I may last 90 minutes then I'm ready to go home.

I'm going to a local bar with my podcast partner tomorrow night. One of our local bands is playing there. We will hang out, order a burger/fries, maybe order 1 beer...I might have a 2nd one...MAYBE. Then after hanging out for 90 minutes we will be ready to wrap up any recording we are doing, and head home. We will be done early because well...we both work in the morning. Probably leave the bar by 9:15 p.m.

I am just past the cut off of being one those millenials( or I am on the tail end) and I cant stand going to bars , I find it so bloody boring, to just sit there and drink, I also no longer drink, so there is that too. But even when I was drinking, I could only handle so much of being at a bar.

I would much rather, and enjoy it being at home on the weekends playing the PS4( Grand Theft Auto) , working on models, adult activity's with the wife, but also, we have a 5 yr old, so there is that too. Or, if I could ever manage to book some gigs, I wouldn't mind working a wedding on a Saturday.

Personally I get beat up by my friends because I'm a DJ and I don't go crazy about going to parties or a bar to hear a DJ play. It's not because I don't drink but I'm not out for the meat market scene. I don't go there looking to pick someone up. Besides in most cases I rarely am impressed with hearing a DJ play. I go to where my friend plays on Wednesday and Thursday night where I just started playing at on Sunday nights. I go there because he is a very good friend and a very good DJ. I also show up to promote what I'm doing on Sunday nights in the same place. Other then that I would barely go out. My focus is on getting me more work and not going out to hear another DJ play.

Many years ago I couldn't wait to get to the club to party down. I'm at the age where it's not exciting to me any more.

My wife and I are both 25, but we (including our circle of friends) don't go out to bars at all. We instead try to do things outside (disc golf mainly) or go bowling. 9:30pm on a Friday night is late so we are probably just strange compared to most people our age. We are all engineers too so maybe that has something to do with our nerdiness [emoji851].


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Going to the bar was never about getting drunk. It was a social thing. I have met many many people over the years going out and talking to people. Hell I have book gigs this was.

The world is different - there are just so many better ways of socializing than going to a bar. The entertainment options are incredibly varied. It's not that the young people are missing - you're just looking for them in the wrong places.

I wouldn't want to be a bar owner today, and especially not a "club" owner.
As attention spans grow shorter and shorter with every generation, it becomes harder and harder to keep your establishment and entertainment fresh. Combine that with the fact that more people are pre-partying at home now and not going out till after 11pm, and as a result buying fewer drinks for the time they are in the bar, it's now become a pretty tough business to make a go of.

I would rather rent a venue for the night maybe once a month and promote my own one-off events that might give people more of a reason to want to go check it out if they think it's new and different, than to try and keep something like a club a going concern with it's high overhead and constant threat of going from being a hot spot to a "not spot".

Also, and this is so sad to have to say, but as terrorist attacks, club & mass shootings are on the rise, more and more people will be "cocooning" and less likely to want to go out period unfortunately.

The bar/club experience for a lot of people, especially women has been undesirable for quite some time now.

Not wanting to bring a coat with you because you have to leave it with coat check staff who are unreliable or you lose your ticket, or having to freeze your ass off at bar closing time trying to get a cab because you didn't bring that coat with you because of that aforementioned reason.

If your not at your own table with your own group of friends, you have to constantly hold your drink for fear of some creep putting a date rape drug in it if you set it down anywhere for a few moments.

Due to women never being able to go to the bathroom without at least a couple of their friends accompanying them for some strange reason, washrooms for women are notoriously inadequate in capacity at the majority of clubs when at or near capacity, resulting in lines and wait times in many instances.

Constantly being groped or grinded upon by more creeps on the dance floor who think they're cool when the woman just wants to dance and have a good time.

Really not surprising that many women are abandoning bars and clubs all together.

I went to a bar tonight.

It was half price burger night, and their burger is awesome.

They had one of our bands playing there that we feature on our podcast. Really, it's a duo. They are in their 40s. They played from 6:30 to 9pm. The entertainment ended at 9 pm for a Wednesday night. I have to say I think that I was the youngest patron in the bar at 34 years old. My podcast partner is turning 50 this year. Most of the other patrons in this bar were all between 50 and 70 years old as my best guess. There were about 35 people in the bar, and 5 of them were there because of the duo playing (including us 2). I had a Bacardi and Coke, and a 10 oz Bacon Cheddar Burger, and my bill was $8.95. ....Not even $10 and I had a huge burger and a cocktail. My buddy just had a coke, and a Burger, and his bill was like $6.

I don't know how these bars survive. The Duo was being paid, but I'm not sure how much. The owner told me that they literally write June, July and August off. Once June kicks in, their slow season starts, and they operate in the red because the locals go to restaurants/bars on the water in the summer time. He said his wife and him are looking to sell the building. Only one low ball offer so far though. They are ready to retire though. A lot of bar owners that have been in the business a lot of years are all looking to sell or gearing up for retirement now.

What's going on is a lot of these Indian guys are trying to buy these places up. They are the ones who have money, and want to try to work the business these days.

I spend a good amount of time (and money) in bars with a few different groups of my friends. Others are more comfortable sitting around chatting at home, or going for a hike.

I don't personally love the club environment to just chill, but I do go so I can see DJs I respect. I get the sense that so many mobiles never really see other DJs work. There's so much you can learn from watching what someone else would do in a room, how they work with the crowd, mixing style, etc. If you don't spend some time out, it's really difficul to see what other DJs are doing.

The issue I find with this is where to go where you can feel safe? That's a big concern today. You don't want to take a chance on going somewhere never to make it back home.

The reason for this is that some places will allow some questionable people to come in their place. So some would rather not take a chance going out to a bar or club. There was a place around here called Taboo. The place inside was very nicely decorated. It would have been a great place to go to had the owner run things right. She let a lot of her friends from city hall come in for free and drink on her.

That left her with letting all types of mess come in the place. It started out great but in the end in 12 months there were 13 shootings. Thus the police came and got the place shut down.

There is a place called Club Marlos in Irvington NJ that is still going strong after being in business for over 35 years. They had an issue where the owner who I know personally lowered the age limit to 21 and over. Someone got shot outside costing the owner a lot of business. He later on raised the age to 25 and older. Now the club is doing well again. They even rent out the club for special events. I happen to used to play there with a friend and I used to work with the sons owner at my day job before retiring.

It's all about how a place is being run. Do people know about the place and what do they have to offer besides just drinks to get people to come to the place. People can stay home and drink if that's all a place has to offer and save money.

I was at a place in downtown Cleveland last weekend. 3 stories. Place was packed. Seemed like mostly younger kids to me

Mix, I have never had to think about that in any of the places I have ever been too. I guess I just got luck and select good places to go to and work at. The world outside your mile radius is much different then you are used to. My favorite part of being in the bar when not working was always to talk to the old guys at the bar and listen to their stories. Always learned something and still one of my favorite things to do when I get a chance.

Dj Jimmy D said:

Mix, I have never had to think about that in any of the places I have ever been too. I guess I just got luck and select good places to go to and work at. The world outside your mile radius is much different then you are used to. My favorite part of being in the bar when not working was always to talk to the old guys at the bar and listen to their stories. Always learned something and still one of my favorite things to do when I get a chance.

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Let me say this. I said it before. It's all in how a place is being run. My friend plays in a place where I just started to play att on Sunday night. Both nights he plays there which he does karaoke on Wednesday nights and classic soul on Thursday nights and no issues. No need for security either night.

The owner had some guys coming in on Friday nights playing from 10pm to 2am and there was a major need for security. It was $10 to get in and the DJS had to get the security. They had a bunch of young people coming and it turne into a mess. The owner stopped the guys from playing for a few weeks. He told them they needed to get better security. They came back to play and same s*** different day.

Eventually the owner got fined by ABC board for allowing under age people to come in there and drink. So that ended them playing there.

On Sunday I don't expect any issues because of the kind of music I will be playing. My aim is to keep the trouble makers out. Let them go somewhere else and raise hell.

I played in the Private Place Lounge and she eventually had to get a guy to stand by the door to look to keep certain element out she didn't want coming into the place. No major issues. Every once in a while someone would try to start a fight. Those people would quickly get put out and things could continue.