Maybe it's not you at all - Maybe they are getting cold feet!!! I personally would contact them one more time and tell them you have other clients that are interested in that date as well and you need an answer or you will have to contract another couple - Nothing personal just business!
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DJ PAUL
Director of Entertainment Fulfillment
I have found myself in this same situation. They are obviously dropping some serious coin on this event. They want you sell them on why you would be the best dj for their event. Out sell the other dj.
If you get or take the gig, rock the house you will get one of the most precious things in this business WOM from PITAs they will sell you like no one else!
Do whatever it takes to land it! You'll be glad you did later.
Paul
If you get or take the gig, rock the house you will get one of the most precious things in this business WOM from PITAs they will sell you like no one else!
Do whatever it takes to land it! You'll be glad you did later.
Paul
DjDennis
RIP- My Dad (2011), Sister (2013) and Mum (2017)
Paul but after a Year! - not on your life
I wouldnt even touch it after 90x days let alone 12x months waiting for a contract to be signed
I wouldnt even touch it after 90x days let alone 12x months waiting for a contract to be signed
Well...I've taken the advice from some of you based on your responses. I just sent the bride an email giving them our increased price (we've actually raised our pricing since we met with them last year) and the cost for the additional sound that I would have to rent. Now the ball is in there court. I'll let you know the outcome.
Thanks again for your input!!
Thanks again for your input!!
you came highly recommended (they have faith in you)
they enjoyed your show in person (they like you)
they are inviting 400 guests (big crowds are more fun)
you need to rent extra gear (you can charge them more)
and as others have said...you're ALREADY invested in this gig.
be kind, be polite, but be honest with them.
tell them they need to make a decision...
because you are getting calls about the same date.
but you feel you already have a relationship with them.
and somehow remind them to relax and let you do the rest...
so they can put their efforts into other aspects of the wedding
(and stop pestering you!)
they enjoyed your show in person (they like you)
they are inviting 400 guests (big crowds are more fun)
you need to rent extra gear (you can charge them more)
and as others have said...you're ALREADY invested in this gig.
be kind, be polite, but be honest with them.
tell them they need to make a decision...
because you are getting calls about the same date.
but you feel you already have a relationship with them.
and somehow remind them to relax and let you do the rest...
so they can put their efforts into other aspects of the wedding
(and stop pestering you!)
DJ PAUL
Director of Entertainment Fulfillment
Dennis-
I have booked events two years out. When someone plans to be married two years out they are seriously looking for everything to be perfect. That was my type of client! and potiential clients that really shop around looking for the perfect entertainment are typically your very highend clientel. Once you enter that circle of clientel you are "in" . So if you have to take a small risk so be it! Not guts no glory!
I'd take the one year pain in the ass bride over the ninety day budget bride anytime! I would get more from it.
Just my opinion! trafficgoo I think you made the right choice all proposals should have an expiration date.
Paul
I have booked events two years out. When someone plans to be married two years out they are seriously looking for everything to be perfect. That was my type of client! and potiential clients that really shop around looking for the perfect entertainment are typically your very highend clientel. Once you enter that circle of clientel you are "in" . So if you have to take a small risk so be it! Not guts no glory!
I'd take the one year pain in the ass bride over the ninety day budget bride anytime! I would get more from it.
Just my opinion! trafficgoo I think you made the right choice all proposals should have an expiration date.
Paul
Just heard back from the bride. She's going to talk to her fiance' tonight regarding the price increase and get back with me tomorrow. I think this is the quickest response from her in a year.
Steve LeBlanc
DJ Extraordinaire
It was like a short meeting...my wife spoke with them for about 15 minutes about everything that was going on.
Make me unpopular....but I wouldn't hire you if you jacked the price since our the initial price!
I would drop you like a fly, and bad mouth your business practices.
This is from a client perspective.
Now from a business perspective!
"I" would never raise the price after I quoted a price for an event! I once again shot myself in the foot for a booking in October, and if I get the gig, there is no way in F^%K I will tell them a higher price!
Overall....two thumbs down on this decision. I would say adapt to the event, show why you are at the top of the ladder, and kick some major dj butt! Don't back into a corner, and shy away.....that's not what our business is about!
I would drop you like a fly, and bad mouth your business practices.
This is from a client perspective.
Now from a business perspective!
"I" would never raise the price after I quoted a price for an event! I once again shot myself in the foot for a booking in October, and if I get the gig, there is no way in F^%K I will tell them a higher price!
Overall....two thumbs down on this decision. I would say adapt to the event, show why you are at the top of the ladder, and kick some major dj butt! Don't back into a corner, and shy away.....that's not what our business is about!
Now for the good response!
Don't let my comment razzle you...it's only an opinion, and there is no "RIGHT" answer. You need to do what is best for your business!
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Don't let my comment razzle you...it's only an opinion, and there is no "RIGHT" answer. You need to do what is best for your business!
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It's all good my brutha....no offense taken. It's great to get different opinions. Everyone's different for a reason and we're not always going to agree. But we all rock in what we do and that's why we do it.
Exactly brutha! Sometimes I dont like posting my "unpopular" opinions...but I posted from a clients perspective and a business perspective. And honestly, from the client perspective it pisses me off!
But from a business side..I wouldn't do it...but I don't blame you for getting on the ball and getting things straightened out. I am just hoping you make right, and not go through this scenario again.
I could've booked this date 2 times over but didn't...that was my fault but it is what it is. It's up to them now. If they pass on us then best of luck to them.
Lesson learned right there. Now that would piss me off, and is probably a big part of why your patience has all but run out with this couple. Remember though, you can't blame them for YOU passing on the other gigs. In the future, set a time limit you will hold a date and/or agreed price for, ie. - "This contract will be void if deposit is not paid within XX days"
Folks....please. I'm not blaming anyone but myself. And I understand that I should've been stricter on the time limit with the contract. I was being the nice guy and it back fired. I already have another gig the same weekend. If this one doesn't happen then it doesn't happen. It's ok if I have another night off. It's a PT business for my wife and I. I have the ability to take a night off w/o worrying.
Not flaming you at all, as I've been a "nice guy" too on many occasions! Sorry if it came across any other way, but I'm pretty sure you understood the intent of the post. Nothing wrong with being a nice guy!
If you end up with the night off, make sure to take the wife out for a nice dinner! :triwink:
If you end up with the night off, make sure to take the wife out for a nice dinner! :triwink:
DjDennis
RIP- My Dad (2011), Sister (2013) and Mum (2017)
Paul so you hold open dates for one YEAR or more without being booked just so a client can THINK about paying you to hold said date and possible loose maybe 2 or 3 other bookings on the Same day that could be higher paying
well sorry that is NUTS
well sorry that is NUTS
It's good to see you taking responsibility. But from the first post, and even this one, it does seem like you still blame them, at least a little. You feel you were just trying to be nice and they took advantage of that kindness. If you truly only blame yourself, I think you'd see that what backfired is your policy for holding dates, not you being a nice guy. I'd be thanking them, because I bet you'll never do that again. We've all been there.
I really don't feel being nice has anything to do with it. You can be very nice, and a very effective closer too. Part of being an effective closer is getting people that are not going to buy from you to stop wasting your time.
I no longer let people see me at a show. The agreement they get sent them shows that this offer is void if not signed and returned within 7 days. If I met with them twice, and they called me back, I would not meet with them again....until AFTER they booked. If I had the date open, I would offer to send them a new agreement.
As far as a different price, I totally agree with you about charging a different price. If you could take it or leave it, I don't think there is anything wrong with asking for more money. Airlines do it daily. Book a flight one day, one price, book it two weeks later, major difference.
I had someone recently inquire about a booking for Saturday next July from a recommendation. When I quoted him, he said, "Wow, that is a lot more that my friend paid. I looked up his friend. He got married on a Friday in February. I told him I would gladly honor that price if he wants to move his wedding to a Friday in February.