Weddings Brick house - songs like that .. help

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Maybe he's lactose intolerant.
 
Brick House & YMCA are just representative of "those songs" that are deemed tired, played out, and corny by many younger couples.

Agreed - but that may not be the issue in this case. There was no evidence of that from the OP.

We are not worth our salt at what we do if we don not have a fairly well formulated mental list of songs commonly placed in that category. It would also include participation dances like Macarena, Electric Slide, etc.

Also agreed but you're making an assumption that the groom (or bride) doesn't want to hear "deemed tired, played out, and corny" dances and in your grouping, you're listing bh with macarena, electric slide, etc.

By trying to read any more into it than that - which we ARE justified in reading into it because this song grouping and the motivation behind it are very common - we are merely making assumptions we don't have business or reason to make unless we are going off other clues than his simply mentioning Brick House and "any songs like that."

Correct, we have no business making assumptions - so instead of assuming, ask the question.

Ideally... get clarification. Barring that, just run with it and let's not pretend we should have "no clue" as to what he means by "like that." Because we should.

Partly agreed. You're assuming you know what the groom means by "like that". What happens if you're wrong?
 
Funny side note. Brickhouse used to be a staple when in the USA but moving to Canada changed that. I have used it minimal and with less than minimal success. Like others I qualify play requests and do not plays. sounds to me like a few tha this song had signficant issue from the past or the suggestive lyrics were the issue.
 
When I saw this post I was thinking he did not want to hear songs that are normally played at events.

Old Time Rock N Roll
Love Shack
You Shook Me All Night Long

That is how I took it. Just need to ask him what music is he talking about.
 
Agreed - but that may not be the issue in this case. There was no evidence of that from the OP.



Also agreed but you're making an assumption that the groom (or bride) doesn't want to hear "deemed tired, played out, and corny" dances and in your grouping, you're listing bh with macarena, electric slide, etc.



Correct, we have no business making assumptions - so instead of assuming, ask the question.



Partly agreed. You're assuming you know what the groom means by "like that". What happens if you're wrong?

Some assumptions are more justified than others, and this one seems to be based on more solid ground than others which are quite more tenuous.
 
Some assumptions are more justified than others, and this one seems to be based on more solid ground than others which are quite more tenuous.

Does that even make any frickin' sense? Why is this one 'more justified' - because in your mind, that's the most logical? They're ALL assumptions, period. This is why it needs to be clarified. Look at ALL the different assumptions we have collectively made.
 
When I saw this post I was thinking he did not want to hear songs that are normally played at events.

Old Time Rock N Roll
Love Shack
You Shook Me All Night Long

That is how I took it. Just need to ask him what music is he talking about.

Example of another assumption.
 
Does that even make any frickin' sense? Why is this one 'more justified' - because in your mind, that's the most logical? They're ALL assumptions, period. This is why it needs to be clarified. Look at ALL the different assumptions we have collectively made.

And on the first day, the Lord said "let us READ and understand posts in their entirety before we *try* to assail them with multi-line quotes."

In my original post, if you would revisit, I already stated that the MOST IDEAL circumstance would be to get further clarification from the client, and that this assumption was merely the most reasonable given the information given by the OP and supposedly - the client themselves - when coupled with our collective experience.

There is a principle called Occam's razor being applied. Our collective experience as professionals would find "Brick House" and the phrase "songs like that" (when used to formulate a class for exclusions) to be representative of those very types of motivations and songs I listed - ie wanting to avoid the "tired out" and "played" out "cheezy" or "corny" songs. "Brick House" in particular gets lumped in with those songs and avoided for those reasons FAR more often than it gets excluded based on lyrical content or it's "sexually suggestive nature" which - let's face it - by today's standards, is completely tame and is outdone daily on the Nick network.

If lyrical content were an issue, it would have been stated as such. No one is going to give a *not even mildly* explicit song as a SPECIFIC example to rule out a class based on sexual content and "hope" the DJ gets it when they give the name of a milk-toast song and say "songs like that." That they were concerned about content would be manifested more explicitly, and any PARTICULAR song given to represent their concerns would be something that would be far more blatantly and easily discerned as being sexually explicit in nature. Furthermore, when an attempt to clarify their entirely unstated concern is made, they would not keep on with the vagueness. They would come around to stating their concern more explicitly to confirm that it was recognized and duly noted as such by the provider. Assuming the OP is giving an accurate accounting of their exchange, no one is going to play the types of convoluted word and mind games that would have to be played here on the part of the client to make their concerns known.

That makes lyrical content a FAR less probable motivation for the client, barring further info, which I had ALREADY STATED you should try to get, if at all possible.

So, any more choirs we care to preach to today? LOL

More telling and more helpful in sorting out which assumptions are more justified would be a peek at the client's must-play list, or desired songs for dancing. Any amount of money says there is stuff on there that would easily trump "Brick House" on content. Perhaps this information will be made available at a later date.
 
Nope, no assuming here. I KNOW we don't have anything better to do than analyze things that are meaningless because here we are - doing it! LOL

Keeps us off the streets, and outta trouble... :sqbiggrin:


BTW, kudos to you, for you prior post. That is some serious BS artistry :)

I see you have been reading some of my late night rantings from the Man Cave, and realized resistance to the BS Force is impossible ... :sqlaugh:


PS. I enjoyed the reference to lex parsimoniae -- Rox would be proud... hehehe
 
And on the first day, the Lord said "let us READ and understand posts in their entirety before we *try* to assail them with multi-line quotes."

Maybe, maybe some of us were absent on that day - doing the Lord's work.

In my original post, if you would revisit, I already stated that the MOST IDEAL circumstance would be to get further clarification from the client, and that this assumption was merely the most reasonable given the information given by the OP and supposedly - the client themselves - when coupled with our collective experience.

Y'er kidding me right? Is this stand up night on ODJT? This isn't April Fool's day yet. Did you not see everyone else's 'assumption' based on the very same message? Given that, I highly doubt your assumption has any more weight than any other. This is why the OP needs more information.

There is a principle called Occam's razor being applied. Our collective experience as professionals would find "Brick House" and the phrase "songs like that" (when used to formulate a class for exclusions) to be representative of those very types of motivations and songs I listed - ie wanting to avoid the "tired out" and "played" out "cheezy" or "corny" songs. "Brick House" in particular gets lumped in with those songs and avoided for those reasons FAR more often than it gets excluded based on lyrical content or it's "sexually suggestive nature" which - let's face it - by today's standards, is completely tame and is outdone daily on the Nick network.

This has got to be a joke - how you came to this conclusion without proof or evidence. JT, you put him up to this? Ricky?

If lyrical content were an issue, it would have been stated as such. No one is going to give a *not even mildly* explicit song as a SPECIFIC example to rule out a class based on sexual content and "hope" the DJ gets it when they give the name of a milk-toast song and say "songs like that." That they were concerned about content would be manifested more explicitly, and any PARTICULAR song given to represent their concerns would be something that would be far more blatantly and easily discerned as being sexually explicit in nature. Furthermore, when an attempt to clarify their entirely unstated concern is made, they would not keep on with the vagueness. They would come around to stating their concern more explicitly to confirm that it was recognized and duly noted as such by the provider. Assuming the OP is giving an accurate accounting of their exchange, no one is going to play the types of convoluted word and mind games that would have to be played here on the part of the client to make their concerns known.

Somewhat agree - if you read previous posts, people like Ricky think that the groom is referring to lyrical songs like this.

That makes lyrical content a FAR less probable motivation for the client, barring further info, which I had ALREADY STATED you should try to get, if at all possible.

Maybe, maybe not.

More telling and more helpful in sorting out which assumptions are more justified would be a peek at the client's must-play list, or desired songs for dancing. Any amount of money says there is stuff on there that would easily trump "Brick House" on content. Perhaps this information will be made available at a later date.

Agreed.
 
Yes, all the more reason to get clarification.... a few probing questions should reveal a lot...

Agreed. Rob, I was using your post to prove there's yet another angle on what this guy means.

To the OP, Are you going to ask the groom for more info? If you did, what was the answer(s)?
 
this groom MUST be more specific.
the words "songs like that"... could be take many different ways.....
does he mean:
1- songs from that era, decade, or year
2- disco songs
3- songs with suggestive (?) lyrics
4- dance songs
5- songs performed by black artists
6- songs you hear a lot at weddings

simply tell him that you want to honor his wishes, but in order to do that
you need him to be more specific about what he DOESN'T want...
just as he would be about songs he WANTS you to play.
 
Thanks Mike great point. Not only did he not say songs with sexual connotation he also did not say Cheesy Wedding songs like Brick house or even Funky R&B songs like Brickhouse. He gave no guideline to what songs like means. DJs often assume or attempt to read in their own thought for anything.
 
Not only did he not say songs with sexual connotation he also did not say Cheesy Wedding songs like Brick house or even Funky R&B songs like Brickhouse. He gave no guideline to what songs like means.

Exactly my point. Haven't I been saying this?

DJs often assume or attempt to read in their own thought for anything.

Which was proven with this thread alone.