Weddings Brick house - songs like that .. help

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ittigger said:
Rick, I'm not disagreeing with you about 'brickhouse'. I'm questioning the 'other songs like it' part.
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My subjective reasoning, is that the song is essentially a staple at parties and weddings, and has been for ages. It's an easy song to dance to, and most folks like it.

Therefore, I surmise, that there is something in the lyrics, that is turning them off.

If it was a hip-hop/rap/black music type thing (yeah, I'm stereotyping, but we've all run across it) -- that would not have been the song he mentioned. He would have brought up the genre I think, or mentioned another song far worse.


So, look at the type of lyrics in the song, and try to avoid similar songs... :)

I mentioned Big Butts, but I could also mention LL Cool J - Around The Way Girl, or a whole bunch of others, that imply a hot chick out to get her man, based solely upon sexuality...

Try playing Joe Walsh - ILBT's :D
 
SoftJock Rick said:
My subjective reasoning, is that the song is essentially a staple at parties and weddings, and has been for ages. It's an easy song to dance to, and most folks like it.

Therefore, I surmise, that there is something in the lyrics, that is turning them off.

If it was a hip-hop/rap/black music type thing (yeah, I'm stereotyping, but we've all run across it) -- that would not have been the song he mentioned. He would have brought up the genre I think, or mentioned another song far worse.
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You may be right - from my experience, when they say the song 'brickhouse and others like it' - to me, that's an automatic genre type and not about the lyrics. People usually tell me if it's about the lyrics. So should we agree that this just 1 of the multiple points that needs clarification - lyrics vs genre?

I didn't see anything in that post that gave evidence of a lyrical issue.
 
MADNESS said:
I hate when people do this. A groom told me he does not want brick house played or any songs like that. I asked him if he could be specific about it and he just said that type. Kinda broad, but any siggestion that could guide a brotha along?
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The best course, in my experience, when given that kind of open ended authority (a blessing really) is to used my best judgment, read the crowd, and mix other songs that have served me well and that do not fit the seed songs very generic characteristics.

If Brick House if your seed any 70's or 80's straight up funk, funkier Motown ish, or funkier club stuff would not be my course.

This list from the Platinum Series should provide some guidance:
Funk 105 Brick House Commodores 7 1
Funk 106 Give Up The Funk Parliament 8 6
Funk 106 Jungle Boogie Kool & The Gang 23 17
Funk 106 Flashlight Parliament 24 18
Funk 106 More Bounce To The Ounce Zapp 25 2
Funk 108 Atomic Dog George Clinton 7 5
Funk 108 Dazz Brick 25 3
Funk 110 Play that Funky Music Wild Cherry 4 17
Funk 112 Rapper's Delight Sugarhill Gang 7 8
Funk 114 Fantastic Voyage Lakeside 23 18
Funk 115 Let the Music Play Shannon 7 9
Funk 116 Jam on it Newcleus 8 5
Funk 117 Burn Rubber Gap Band 8 2
Funk 118 The Roof Is On Fire Rock Master Scott 8 7
Funk 119 Double Dutch Bus Frankie Smith 24 16
Funk 121 Freak-A-Zoid Midnight Star 8 4
Funk 123 White Horse Laid Back 24 17
Funk 125 No Parking On The Dance Floor Midnight Star 7 6
Funk 125 Let's Groove Earth, Wind And Fire 8 8
Funk 126 You Dropped a Bomb On Me Gap Band 7 4
Funk 127 Parth Train Gap Band 8 3
Funk 128 September Earth, Wind And Fire 7 2
Funk 128 Swoop Dazz 7 3
Funk 130 Do Ya Wanna Funk Sylvester 25 1
Funk 133 Super Freak Rick James 7 7
Funk 133 Let It Whip Dazz Band 8 1
 
ittigger said:
You may be right - from my experience, when they say the song 'brickhouse and others like it' - to me, that's an automatic genre type and not about the lyrics. People usually tell me if it's about the lyrics. So should we agree that this alone needs clarification - lyrics vs genre?
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You could just open up the dancing with it, and see who sneers at you -- then you have yer culprit... ;)

I probably wouldn't bother though -- he said he doesn't want Brick House -- don't play it. What if this idea gets into all sorts of mess, and you spend 40 hours with the folks designing a no-fly, erm play list...?

You just lost money on the gig!


Don't worry too much about it, just do yer thing. You'll find out soon enough :)
 
Ok, I had a playlist of rat pack, 60's type stuff, it was a so called black tie event out in a pasture,, lol,, well i stuck to the playlist until a family member came over and said beef it up some of the people are leaving, so i did some of the regular funk/disco stuff, bride came over and i asked if it was ok, well next day with her huge hangover she said i did not play from the playlist, and i hardly played 20-30 minutes off the track, so damn if you do and damn if you dont,,,
 
And that's why you have THEM provide a listing of what they don't want played. Costs you no time, other than making sure you don't play them.
 
ittigger said:
Only problem - you're basing this on Genre. What if it's about the lyrics, as Rick suggests?
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We can only work with the weak guidance we are provided. Depending on how involved you are in the planning with your clients, I'd simply press for a clearer explanation.

Otherwise, Rick hit dat nail on its head!

SoftJock Rick said:
...he said he doesn't want Brick House -- don't play it.
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Ab so friggin lutely.
 
ittigger said:
And that's why you have THEM provide a listing of what they don't want played. Costs you no time, other than making sure you don't play them.
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Problem with that, is then they are doing YOUR job.


People give me requests all the time -- for both music and software. If it works with my plans, and I can fit it in -- so be it. If not, so be it.

That's why they are paying me, and not doing it themselves :)
 
SoftJock Rick said:
You could just open up the dancing with it, and see who sneers at you -- then you have yer culprit... ;)
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Agreed.

SoftJock Rick said:
I probably wouldn't bother though -- he said he doesn't want Brick House -- don't play it. What if this idea gets into all sorts of mess, and you spend 40 hours with the folks designing a no-fly, erm play list...?

What if you get into a mess because you didn't ask. I've had folks not want to do the garter toss because they don't want to offend someone. After explaining what it is and how it works, they were happy they DID do it.

SoftJock Rick said:
You just lost money on the gig!
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My advice, ask for clarification and see what they say. You should be able to figure out if it's lyrics, genre or maybe they don't like THAT song. If they want to expand the list, by all means - it is THEIR party. Make them list the songs they don't want to hear. That's not your job. You may want to also advise that by excluding blah, blah, blah - you may have an empty dance floor.

SoftJock Rick said:
Don't worry too much about it, just do yer thing. You'll find out soon enough :)
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Agreed.
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djrox said:
We can only work with the weak guidance we are provided. Depending on how involved you are in the planning with your clients, I'd simply press for a clearer explanation.

Otherwise, Rick hit dat nail on its head!


Ab so friggin lutely.
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Exactly my point.
 
SoftJock Rick said:
Problem with that, is then they are doing YOUR job.


People give me requests all the time -- for both music and software. If it works with my plans, and I can fit it in -- so be it. If not, so be it.

That's why they are paying me, and not doing it themselves :)
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Rick, I agree - but if you want to pay me and macro manage what I do - and I'm ok with it, then fine. If not, then back off and let me do my job. Maybe their paying you because they can't program and I'm almost certain that if someone paid you enough, and you were ok with it, you'd do everything they asked for (that you could). When your statement is 'and other similar' - that sets off a red flag that's just begging for clarification. What does it hurt to ask.
 
I would ask for clarification from the groom & nicely ask a few questions relating to it.

I've had a groom say the same thing, to him songs like "Play that funky music, Celebration, Brickhouse, I will survive, Night fever" are disco type songs that he deemed cheesy-disco crap.

I try & find out this stuff in our initial meeting (before contracts are signed)
I posed this to him: "these are fairly popular dancing songs at weddings that people love to dance to, what if they request them?...still do not play? If not, what DO you prefer?"

He wanted a bunch of hard rock/metal all night long, that's what HE liked & didn't care about what the guests liked.

After trying to educate him on how successful receptions work, with no luck, I thanked him for his time, & I declined his event.
 
ittigger said:
Rick, I agree - but if you want to pay me and macro manage what I do - and I'm ok with it, then fine. If not, then back off and let me do my job.
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I don't give them the option.

I have never asked for a play/do not play list. If it's a wedding, all I need to know is what is the first song they want to dance to.

If there is some specific song that they hate, for a specific reason -- I will entertain not playing it. Other than that, I get hired to handle the music, and I do not like others getting involved in my work.

Just the way I roll :)
 
Agreed. That's the way 'you' roll. It may not be the best for this case tho. Only the OP can determine that. Our job is to put the points out there.
 
Brick House & YMCA are just representative of "those songs" that are deemed tired, played out, and corny by many younger couples. We are not worth our salt at what we do if we don not have a fairly well formulated mental list of songs commonly placed in that category. It would also include participation dances like Macarena, Electric Slide, etc.

By trying to read any more into it than that - which we ARE justified in reading into it because this song grouping and the motivation behind it are very common - we are merely making assumptions we don't have business or reason to make unless we are going off other clues than his simply mentioning Brick House and "any songs like that."

Ideally... get clarification. Barring that, just run with it and let's not pretend we should have "no clue" as to what he means by "like that." Because we should.

:tricool:
 
Get clarification with both the Bride and the Groom to this before the event.

My guess is that he doesn't want anything that his guests want to hear... :sqwink:
 
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