Weddings I'm no Peter Merry

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Friend as far as retail value and discounts= NADDA


You need to be firm on how you structure your prices and such.

To me...it looks like you need to be more upfront on your initial meeting ideas.

They threw you a curve ball...now react and hit it out of the park.


I need to bring this to attention...I have a bride this weekend who was originally getting married in a park..we were to provide ceremony music..then we would arrive to location B) for the event.

This week she says that the first location chosen will not work, so we will need to play ceremony music in the church, AND AND we will need to provide dinner music. AND THEN GO TO LOCATION B)


Complete curveball. But dumb us, for not clearly defining the stipulations of the original contract.

I'm not going to charge her more..even though it is more work...I am going to learn from it.


My friend who is going to be their actual dj is stressing out, because after dinner, he will need to rush to set up at the second location. I told him flat out...take your time..but be reasonable. He has a tendency to over stress himself, and this would not be a smart idea.



Now going to your predicament. Learn from this. I personally would "upsell" the lighting to the clients, however, I would not "charge more to make up for any losses."

I would also explain as Fred said..."I am not Peter Merry, but I will do my best to ensure everyone has a great time."


If you are not comfortable doing something Peter Merry does..let your clients know right away. Don't let this be an after fact. Honesty goes a long long ways in this business.

I once told a client I was not good at doing the garter "AUCTION"....and they said just do your best. I was horrible. That's something I am just not good at. But at least my honesty led her to a decision.

Face it, this dj business throws a million curve balls, lets not fool ourselves. The good djs will hit the ball, the great djs will knock it out of the park."

Now what I would do. I would do all the extra things as asked, but I would politely explain to the Bride and Groom what requires extra work. You realize this is important to the bride and groom, so provide, but kindly mention something about them helping you out financially for doing these extra things. Say something like..and this is not golden..."While I will do anything to help your event be a huge success, there are some extra things that were not included in the price. I will be more than glad to do the work for free, but if you feel inclined, a little extra would help out a lot."

Be blunt...heck you are putting in the "work" right. Make them understand that you are going above and beyond, and if they get a "guilt trip" then good. Then you are priced too low. Everyone understands that when you need special things for an event, usually there is a price. Why would they expect different.

So...throw it in...mention money, or dont...just do it. Knock their socks off....kick some major butt. Learn from it, and either price yourself to make that included, or make it an add on. Just swallow a loss if you need to. Big deal. As long as you learn from it, you will be that much further ahead in the long run.

In fact..dont even worry about talking about money....this can be argued either way. But if you say this could bring potentially more bookings in the long run, then you need to do what you need to do to enhance your potential results.

Bottom line, I wish you the absolute best in endeavors, and I hope your business grows and prospers!
 
You tell them straight out that there will be additional charges. Explain that they are paying for you VS what they would be paying Peter for what he does.

If they don't understand, tell them they are welcome to cancel (and lose their retainer) and go hire Peter.

It's like someone buying a stripped down car & complaining that they want all the extras thrown in for the same price.
 
I have not an idea of what to say to you. Peter Merry is a name to me. It's like saying I'm hiring some top chef for my wedding. That's great some people want a name. He is good at what he does.

I can provide everything this guy can and if not do it better. Why don't I?? Simply my clients don't want to pay for it, and it's not me. There are tons of those interactive; I will blow you DJ's in the area. I will do a great intro and sit back ant let the people dance.

Ok typing I thought about it. Tell your client yes, I can do that but it's not what I provide it will take XX hours of production and cost $XXX.XX. I'm sorry if you like this wedding DJ I will refund your deposit and you can book Peter Merry.
 
Well... my thoughts for what they're worth:

You know the couple probably better than anyone. You know they're not wealthy.

Not being wealthy shouldn't prevent them from having a very memorable wedding. :)

If it was me I'd explain that, while I'm not Mr. Merry and couldn't duplicate his show, I'd do my best with their ideas to ensure that they and their guests had a great time.

Granted, your time is your inventory and shouldn't be given away. But there are other considerations. These folks could well being some fantastic referrals later. And they'll always be a professional reference.

Yes indeed, the reference................:sqlaugh:

I am telling you that Carlos was a Fantastic DJ he did everything that the DJ did at Beth's wedding and he only charged $600 where Beth had to pay $5,000 for her DJ!
 
I need to bring this to attention...I have a bride this weekend who was originally getting married in a park..we were to provide ceremony music..then we would arrive to location B) for the event.

This week she says that the first location chosen will not work, so we will need to play ceremony music in the church, AND AND we will need to provide dinner music. AND THEN GO TO LOCATION B)


Complete curveball. But dumb us, for not clearly defining the stipulations of the original contract.

Do you include event addresses in your contract? Ceremony at x, rest of event at y? I won't do an event without having the addy specified in the contract ahead of time, and the multiple locations listed if need-be for diff parts of the event - though I shy away from those most of the time anyway.
 
Do you include event addresses in your contract? Ceremony at x, rest of event at y? I won't do an event without having the addy specified in the contract ahead of time, and the multiple locations listed if need-be for diff parts of the event - though I shy away from those most of the time anyway.

Yea...lol..we do.

But this gal is a very close local who I "trusted" to work out without all the extra crap.

Here is what I finally learnt...and this is my final straw.


I don't care who you are, or how close you are to me...if you respect my business and me, you will sign a contract.

One pee'd off burnt dj= No Trust in anybody


Thats how I was trying to do business..but it doesnt work that way.
 
Trying to attach a value to every little extra idea they throw in is not prudent or even possible. Peter Merry charges extra; and seeks out people willing to pay for things many of us already do automatically and take for granted.

The advatage is quoting one whole ebchilada price up front and then taking off the table those things peole do want or need without any monetary adjustment. You are now beyond that point.

You need to determine and set your own boundaries, and then enforce them. You said you gave thema a "great deal." But, are they even aware of the fact that you discounted your price? If you didn't bother to point oiut the discount up front - then it is not reasonable for you to expect them to appreciate it. How should they know you are doing them a favor if you don't inform them of it beforehand?

Now, you need to explain to them how much more prep-work is involved with these new ideas and work out something you can both live with. That may mean more money, or it may mean they do a lot of this prep-work on their own and simply hand you the scripts for minor edits.

Peter Merry does a lot of hand holding, and people pay him for that. Before you try to attach a price to your own hand - decide if letting people hold on to it is something you even care to do.
 
This thread is kinda funny because it should all be laid out in your contract.

In exchange for $x Bridezilla & Groom get this package which includes x,y & z for T hours subject to venue approval. Lack of venue approval shall result in this contracts effective nullification of disapproved service without change to any surviving stipulations. Any addition services or extended performance time shall be available with mutual approval of both parties and venue allowance for an additional fee.
 
give someone $100 to buy groceries, and they will buy $100 worth of groceries that they need.

give someone 5-minutes to grab anything they want in a grocery store
and they will be grabbing stuff they will never eat and dont even want...just cuz it's FREE!

simply remind the couple that Peter charges A LOT of money to do what he does, because of all the extra effort it takes to do what he does
(I am not saying that is 100% true, it's just an easy way to make your point)
remind them how good of a deal you gave them,
and remind them that your quote was for a "basic" show.

tell them it's like options on a car.
you can't ask for more bells and whistles AFTER you've agreed on the price
 
So, just to rehash this whole thread...

It's been an interesting few weeks. Here's what we ended up doing:

Ceremony Sound System with a Live Feed for camera. Two additional microphones for singers performing at the ceremony. Playing "Calling Dr Love" when the pastor said "You May Kiss The Bride."

Custom introductions for each couple (with a music bed and different songs playing for each couple as they were introduced).

Two additional microphones for performers to sing during couple's first dance.

The hardest part of it all was the timing of the introductions. They were far too many for my taste, but that's what they wanted, and that's what they got. But we probably have the record for the longest wedding party introduction at the venue (according to the on-site coordinator).

All in all, it was a good show, very energetic. People were dancing every chance they got. There's no doubt about it, they definitely had fun.

Interestingly enough... and as a side note, this thread made it to Peter Merry himself. I had recently befriended him on facebook and he was very kind, offering to help in any way he could.

I'm hoping to get Peter to speak at our local ADJA chapter meeting in October or November. Looking forward to meeting him in person.

Thanks for all the opinions. I appreciate all the input I got from you guys!
 
I don't know Peter Merry. Never met him. But assuming everything in this thread is accurate, it shows:

Whatever he is getting for weddings, it seems to be a lot more than most DJ's

some clients seem to like the things he is doing at weddings

Some DJs can't stand anything about him. To me, it's like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You don't need to agree with everything someone says or thinks....or even like them. But if someone is doing something right, there has got to be something you can learn from them.
 
But did you earn more $$$, or give it away?

They gave me a little more than the original contract stipulated. If we put in perspective, I got about 10% more for about 40% more work... but all in all, I'm glad I did the wedding.

Now, it's time to concentrate on the next wedding!
 
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