Weddings I'm no Peter Merry

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Carlos,
With that 40% more work, did you do anything that you could take from and either add more value to what you already do at some events, thus either being able to charge more...or giving people more value so you can get referred more?

I do not like working for free. But I love discovering ways to add more value to what I do.
 
karaoke_carlos said:
Interestingly enough... and as a side note, this thread made it to Peter Merry himself. I had recently befriended him on facebook and he was very kind, offering to help in any way he could.
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Although I disagree with alot of his thoughts Peter isn't a bad guy to chat it up with and you can definatly learn something from him. I took some of his advice a few years ago and it helped me grow my business.

Like most things you have to seperate the wheat from the chaff and take what will work for you.

There are many others that you can learn a bunch from around here too
 
Papa,

To raise those statements is to call someone a liar. I know Peter & I know what he charges & I know a growing group that has hired him for their events. He get's what he does because he earns it. He doesn't hardly upsell anything.

I know him well enough to know what he earns & I can say with good authority that he makes more than most every event he does & at the end of the year he has made bank more than probably any other single OP DJ I know of that does weddings.

How Peter does it isn't the only way, it's just his way & it works for him. We should be celebrating that instead of castigating him. Almost everyone here could learn alot from him. You don't have to agree with him to learn from him. I learn from everyone I can, even from people I don't like or get along with. Learning is more important than agreement.
 
DJ Dr. Drax said:
Papa,

To raise those statements is to call someone a liar. I know Peter & I know what he charges & I know a growing group that has hired him for their events. He get's what he does because he earns it. He doesn't hardly upsell anything.

I know him well enough to know what he earns & I can say with good authority that he makes more than most every event he does & at the end of the year he has made bank more than probably any other single OP DJ I know of that does weddings.

How Peter does it isn't the only way, it's just his way & it works for him. We should be celebrating that instead of castigating him. Almost everyone here could learn alot from him. You don't have to agree with him to learn from him. I learn from everyone I can, even from people I don't like or get along with. Learning is more important than agreement.
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Who is your spy, Drax?

And I didn't say he didn't earn any $5000 events. I just said I bet we would find a lot of $1500 events. Go back to where you came from now.
 
I ask only one thing in regards to the debate. Doe he or would he accept less than 1000 on a given day? Im only asking cause I am quite confident that there's a few on the books yearly for much less. Though with the book doing so well and part two coming out along with those folks paying big for the Guild even though price for the offer has dropped dramatically, I just guess those 800 dollar gigs are a bit more tempting. Of course the wife makes a nice living regardless.Oh and good morning Papa. I am about to snore.
 
Who is my spy???

Sorry nobody. I just came here to check things out. I keep having people tell me that I should try to visit here & post here more often.

I saw the thread & your post is the same as many about Peter, "Well he might get $5K for one event, but I am sure most of his events are a lot less". Sorry, I know differently. Does he do some less than $5K? I am sure he does, but his per event pricing at it's lowest is still way higher than anyone else I know & it's a lot closer to $5K than it is to $1500.

Go back to where I came from??? Yes sir, soon as I read where you own this site I will do as you command. Very surprising from you. There is really no need for your hostility. To say what you said is in essence to call him a poser as a $5K wedding DJ. That's what your statment says.

If you had said that I am sure most of his events are $5K or close to it, but he probably does a few for less would be more accurate. I wouldn't take issue with it. But what you post is an effort to diminish what he has accomplished.
 
DJ Dr. Drax said:
Who is my spy???

Sorry nobody. I just came here to check things out. I keep having people tell me that I should try to visit here & post here more often.

I saw the thread & your post is the same as many about Peter, "Well he might get $5K for one event, but I am sure most of his events are a lot less". Sorry, I know differently. Does he do some less than $5K? I am sure he does, but his per event pricing at it's lowest is still way higher than anyone else I know & it's a lot closer to $5K than it is to $1500.

Go back to where I came from??? Yes sir, soon as I read where you own this site I will do as you command. Very surprising from you. There is really no need for your hostility. To say what you said is in essence to call him a poser as a $5K wedding DJ. That's what your statment says.

If you had said that I am sure most of his events are $5K or close to it, but he probably does a few for less would be more accurate. I wouldn't take issue with it. But what you post is an effort to diminish what he has accomplished.
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Funny about how and when that happens..... only times you ever show up are to defend the ADJA or your buddies. You are never here posting anything helpful.
 
I guess I'll have to go stand in the corner with Drax. I met Peter a while back and took his 2day course at ARMDJS in TN. It was well worth it and opened my eyes to a lot of things. YES it is a lot more work and since I took the course and implemented what I learned, I too have increased my rates. Not to 5K but getting closer.
Ask Jim Cerone how much he gets, or maybe Marcello. It's out there if have the value to back it up.
 
Drax,

This is just one old man's opinion.......

Peter over the years made this bed, he castigated, berated and flat out called many a liar, bottom feeder, hobbiest, lazy, etc..

Many of the people that are here have been run off of other boards for calling out "the followers"!

Yes Peter has his way of doing things, and most of us are happy that his way is working for him and the fact that he makes a million dollars a year, but then he doesn't need to be defended because of it!
 
CHuck,

I have posted useful things & got blasted for those too! Take a look at the Microphone freq discussion. Take a look at the Karaoke discussion where I supported trying to legitimize the KJ's by supporting SoundChoice for going after potential pirates.

I have made many posts on business without defense of ADJA or anyone. I didn't realize that there was a posting quota here. Please advise what it is. I don't post ANYWHERE, hardly at all at the rates I used to post. Thunder & I used to tangle about every day. I held heated debates with many, I don't care to invest the time in them anymore. I would rather discuss things with people that I can actually call on the phone & maybe even have lunch with. It is also a reflection of seeing little point in arguement.

Yes I will defend the ADJA, & my friends when they are wrongly charactersized just as I am sure you would too. I also didn't realize that too was against forum policies.

Look forward to seeing you in AC if you make it. I have a free FULL pass for you if you need it.
 
Draxx,

I was wrong for being so harsh. We have met, and we got along. I even met Peter and didn't dislike him. I even gave his book a favorable review here. I told people it was worth reading. But I would really like to see the people who are, or claim to be, our "leaders"... come here to share far more freely than they do, and help those who aren't in a given association, or work for a particular manufacturer that basically only comes here when he has a new product to sell.

I know you guys are busy, and have personal lives, but when you see so little of these people here to help, at least more than they are, well, it gets me all riled up.

The DJ masses are not the people who attend shows, or join organizations, but maybe they could be if they were more accessible and helpful on sites like this one. I personally think that this site is probably the most helpful DJ site I visit.

And I will be in AC...
 
Chuck,

Thanks. I look forward to seeing you again. I really, really wished I had the time to post everywhere I have been asked to participate. However when I did, I didn't have any life at all. I do come here at least about once every couple weeks. There are times I consider posting a reply, but then I consider if it will be worth it if all that follows is an argument.

I don't expect everyone to agree or sing kumbia but It discourages my from posting when your disparaged for posting, or for the people you call friend. I would like to be more involved. Often I also find that others have already posted what I would have & I really, really hate those ditto that type of posts. Yes I am guilty of it. I hardly post on the two sites I moderate. My problem is that I don't type as well as I might express it talking with some one. I will be around more.

BTW do you need a Full pass?
 
Awesome! Troy is the man.
 
Papa Deuce said:
Draxx,

I was wrong for being so harsh. We have met, and we got along. I even met Peter and didn't dislike him. I even gave his book a favorable review here. I told people it was worth reading. But I would really like to see the people who are, or claim to be, our "leaders"... come here to share far more freely than they do, and help those who aren't in a given association, or work for a particular manufacturer that basically only comes here when he has a new product to sell.
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Chuck,
I'm guessing here, but I think the reason most of those people don't post in a lot of forums is because some people cannot help getting in the post and accusing them of something. Again, I don't know them, and maybe the things they are accused of are true. But, just like some topics cannot seem to be discussed rationally with some people, the same goes true for some posters. It's not just this forum. It happens in all of them. I think this forum is much more civil, but it still happens.

I saw on another forum, Randy Barlett was talking about something, and one DJ was extremely hostile towards him. Randy asked him, "Do I know you? Why are you so bitter?" The person then posted that Randy was a jerk because he met him in Vegas and told Randy his idea and in front of a group of people, Randy told him it was a stupid idea.
It turned into pages and pages of, "I didn't say that", "Yes you did", blah blah blah.

I think some people get "star struck" with some of these guys. Even the ones that hate them. They get satisfaction by getting a rise out of them. They enjoy being "noticed" by the "famous" person, even if it's noticed negatively.
They are just people. People with faults like the rest of us. Some may be great people. Some may be complete jerks. I don't know.

I honestly don't care how much they make. What matters to me is the overall content of the message. A lot of stuff I've read or seen on a DVD from have helped me become a better DJ and was well worth the price. Doesn't mean everything I've read was great. I read a lot. Even when I read something I think is crap, I've still learned. I've learned not to read anything by that person again.

In just about anything I've read or watched, I could find something that I just don't agree with. Doesn't mean I'm going to disregard the whole book.
 
DJ Auntie M said:
Who is Peter Merry?:triconfused:Guess I better start googling!!!!
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Awhile back, Fred pointed us (at the time) newbies to several threads that may still exist, but the comments that were made basically turned the name Peter Merry into an instant way to get people riled up. It also goes a long way to explain the "anti-worther" sentiment that this forum tends to display.
 
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