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Kirby Ball
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I believe there is only 1 or 2 places in this area that charge admission when there is a DJ playing. Bar DJs are not very high on the food chain around here. 
Another meeting with restaurant owner tomorrow.
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This is at a Private Lifestyle Club. If they have the money I have the time. However, my image means a lot to me and I did not want anyone associating me with the Crappy Gear that belonged to the owner. It looked like shyt and sounded like shyt. There is only so much one can do to make crappy gear with blown speakers in them sound good.
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Come to Houston!I believe there is only 1 or 2 places in this area that charge admission when there is a DJ playing. Bar DJs are not very high on the food chain around here.
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Kirby Ball
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Why would I want to come to Houston? I've had my fill of the bars & clubs and have moved away from that lifestyle. Been there and done that and have the damaged liver to prove it..
Yer getting to be an ole fart! LOL :tranquillity:Why would I want to come to Houston? I've had my fill of the bars & clubs and have moved away from that lifestyle. Been there and done that and have the damaged liver to prove it..
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Kirby Ball
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Yup, and I've grown up and no longer feel the need to hang out in a club/bar. Different strokes for different folks.
When I do Productions, people come to have fun.
When I do Gigs per my Entertainment Agency, people come expecting Entertainment.
When I do Clubs and Bars people also come to have a good time.
It is not about me. They remember the good time and that the DJ was good. I play all over Houston and therefore i thing it will be wishful thinking to have people "follow" me or come to "see" me. From the general North side of Houston to the general South Side of Houston is almost one hours and a half away. Same from East to West on average.
So, in other words -- people don't pay to come see you do your job.
Mix wants people to come and see his mad skillz, and pay extra for that. Is that logical, when more than likely his "partner" will be doing the mixing...?
Go ask Mix. I have fun doing what I do but make no mistake, I am in it for the money. The Bonus is that I like what I do and have been doing.
I've been asking Mix for some time now -- I think he just wants to be a rock star. He wants security around him all the time, probably a dressing room, and a bunch of groupies waiting for his autograph.
P Diddy, or whatever he calls himself these days, is no match for the MixMasterMachoMachoManIAmAGodAndHovelAtMyFeet...
Once again you got it wrong. I like to just have an owner pay me to play in their place and they can worry about getting people to come to the place. I know if I'm playing somewhere and I don't help with me playing to get enough people to come to the place, the owner will find another DJ. This owner is looking for promoters. Thus the reason for him saying you collect the money from the door and he'll collect the money from the bar.
I don't have to have people come to a bar and pay to see me work my skills and trust me I do an awful lot of playing myself.
So, what are you Mix -- a DJ or a event promoter?
If you did private events like weddings, corporate, etc., you would have no need to be a promoter. You get paid the same whether 10 people or 100 people show up. You have no need for security (well, maybe in your neck of the woods you might, but that could be your partner's GF).
If you are as good as you keep telling us you are, you should have no problems finding gigs, and in fact, your phone should be ringing off the hook all day and night.
I'm not a promoter. That's what the owner was looking for. I'm a DJ who gets private event to do. Things are coming up now and I'm very particular which ones I do. I like to know what kind of event it is and where it's at. If I don't feel good about doing an event I'll pass it up. Just because someone has money to spend doesn't mean I got to be desperate and do a gig.
I'm not too bad when it comes to DJing. At least that's what others have told me. I got a call from someone that mentioned me to someone who is looking for a DJ to do their daughters sweet 16. It's going to be on March 23rd. It's going to be at the Sheraton Hotel in Newark. He called me yesterday. This guy now lives in S.C. and decided to have the party here since he and his wife used to live here. I gave him a price and he said he would get back to me in a couple of days because he had to talk it over with his wife. I got other things coming up including a wedding. Not sure of the date but they absolutely wanted me to do their wedding!
Now back to this owner. We thought he was just going to have us come and play in his place and he would pay us like he did when we did that party there. It was his ideal to do things that way.
DjDennis
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Let me say this. My partner and his girl were the ones who decided to have these parties charging people to come in. I tried to tell him that he was going about things the wrong way. I told him he needed to find a residency first. Somewhere that he could play at on a regular bases and then once people got to know who he is then he could start having these parties. They were spending money pay an owner to come in and have these parties in their place.
They weren't smart enough that if they already paid the owner to rent the place out they should have had a talk with the owner to see if they would agree to say a 1 hour open bar deal to entice people to want to come to the party. Something to try to get people to come in. Also they really didn't do any advertising other then on Facebook. I tried to explain the importance of getting Postcards made up. You will call them flyers. My friend that DJ's knows a printer that you can get 1000 double sided postcards made up for $75.00. Now what's needed on the postcards is something that will attract peoples attention to want them to get them to come. Like for example they could have given the location of the party, who the DJ's were going to be and some special something that will have them wanting to come.
Like the open bar idea. Have the owner agree to a 1 hour open bar and they charge $10.00 to get into the party. Also a big thing would be to find an attractive place to have the party. A place where people will want to come. have a hot DJ that people will want to hear play at the party besides just himself. The thing with the owner deal is that if you've already put money in their cash register some will give in and offer something to draw people in their place. His ego was too big to listen to me. He just thought because of how great he is at DJing that people would bum rush the door to get into one of his parties. That will only work once people know that you're the chit and they can't do without having to come to your party.
I tried to talk him into having a party in a place where he used to play at. The place is a place that serves no alcohol. It's famous for having DJ's coming in playing house music. He did a party in their one night and that was the most successful party they ever promoted. I don't know how much money they made that night but I know they didn't loose money.
I was willing to go half on the money to have the party there and didn't want a dime back. I wanted to do that because I know I could have gotten a certain crowd to come in there to hear me play. That would have been my friends from the 12 step program who would have paid $10.00 to come in to hear me play there because they could come to the party and didn't have to worry about seeing people there drinking getting drunk.
I wanted to do that so I could promote me which in turn would have gotten me other work with the 12 step program and some members wanting to book me to do their events they were having. His ego was crushed there and he doesn't want to do it. He said they ruined his reputation there. The owner and some more people. That's not true. The owner told his girl about how great he was at DJing. The problem was that he couldn't draw enough people to come in to hear him play, so the owner couldn't justify keeping him there once a month to play there. In his mind he thought they were hating against him and that was not true at all. Now once an owner sees how many people that you can draw enough people to come into their place which I mean drinking customers and it's more then enough people, they then would agree to let you get the spot to have a party there for free. I know this personally because other DJ friends of mine that I know personally have done it. There you have it in a nut shell.
They weren't smart enough that if they already paid the owner to rent the place out they should have had a talk with the owner to see if they would agree to say a 1 hour open bar deal to entice people to want to come to the party. Something to try to get people to come in. Also they really didn't do any advertising other then on Facebook. I tried to explain the importance of getting Postcards made up. You will call them flyers. My friend that DJ's knows a printer that you can get 1000 double sided postcards made up for $75.00. Now what's needed on the postcards is something that will attract peoples attention to want them to get them to come. Like for example they could have given the location of the party, who the DJ's were going to be and some special something that will have them wanting to come.
Like the open bar idea. Have the owner agree to a 1 hour open bar and they charge $10.00 to get into the party. Also a big thing would be to find an attractive place to have the party. A place where people will want to come. have a hot DJ that people will want to hear play at the party besides just himself. The thing with the owner deal is that if you've already put money in their cash register some will give in and offer something to draw people in their place. His ego was too big to listen to me. He just thought because of how great he is at DJing that people would bum rush the door to get into one of his parties. That will only work once people know that you're the chit and they can't do without having to come to your party.
I tried to talk him into having a party in a place where he used to play at. The place is a place that serves no alcohol. It's famous for having DJ's coming in playing house music. He did a party in their one night and that was the most successful party they ever promoted. I don't know how much money they made that night but I know they didn't loose money.
I was willing to go half on the money to have the party there and didn't want a dime back. I wanted to do that because I know I could have gotten a certain crowd to come in there to hear me play. That would have been my friends from the 12 step program who would have paid $10.00 to come in to hear me play there because they could come to the party and didn't have to worry about seeing people there drinking getting drunk.
I wanted to do that so I could promote me which in turn would have gotten me other work with the 12 step program and some members wanting to book me to do their events they were having. His ego was crushed there and he doesn't want to do it. He said they ruined his reputation there. The owner and some more people. That's not true. The owner told his girl about how great he was at DJing. The problem was that he couldn't draw enough people to come in to hear him play, so the owner couldn't justify keeping him there once a month to play there. In his mind he thought they were hating against him and that was not true at all. Now once an owner sees how many people that you can draw enough people to come into their place which I mean drinking customers and it's more then enough people, they then would agree to let you get the spot to have a party there for free. I know this personally because other DJ friends of mine that I know personally have done it. There you have it in a nut shell.
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Hey Mix. I want to take this opportunity to say that your secretary has been doing a great job lately. I hope you will treat your secretary well when it comes to retirement. Now all you need is an Editor! :bananen_smilies104:
Mix, If you had an open bar for one hour and the ODJT crew showed up you would be in big trouble. The bar would go broke the first night.
Wouldn't even have to be the ODJT crowd...
We used to have 2 clubs like that here in town back in the early 80's. You paid $5 to get in, and drank free for a couple hours until midnight. They were only a few miles from each other, and got into a competition for the Friday night crowd. They had both been there for years, but both ended up closing, because they lost so much money. Most people would get a couple drinks at a time, and then got right back to the end of the line. Heck, I could easily put away 8-10 screwdrivers in that couple hours.
Drink specials are really the way to go IMHO. Like $2 well drinks or domestic beer from 11-midnight. At least you cover your costs.
The reason why those places lost money and closed was because they only were charging $5.00 to get in and had open bar for 2 hours. That was too cheap and the $5.00 a head wasn't making them enough money to cover the expense for the 2 hour open bar.
My friend plays in a club I used to play in. On Friday nights he starts at 6pm. 1 hour open bar, buffet and DJ. It's $10.00 to get in and you have to get there early to find a place to park.
The place is making a killing because it's so packed in there on Friday night that within that hour you'll probably get 2 drinks and not 8 to 10 drinks like the places you mentioned. Those places even if it was back in the 80's should have closed. For $5.00 all you should have gotten with that is to get in.
If they wanted to get people to come to the place since they were only charging $5.00 to get in to just let ladies come in for free the first 2 hours and guys pay the $5.00 to get in. If men see that they have a lot of women going into a place then that will have them wanting to see what's going on inside. Once they get in there and see a ton of women they won't be so eager to run out the place. In return some will want to buy the women some drinks to talk to them making the owner. Add that combination to a DJ that can really play some hot that people will want to listen and dance, then you have a winning combination.