I find that when I hit a pinch of any sort - whether I'm running out of songs for a set, want to start a new set, or am fishing for the crowd - browsing the CDs I brought to the event really helps.
How stupid... We are DJ's for crying out loud. Why the heck would we need / want that list of songs? It's just a big freakin' list of tunes, not even a cheat-sheet. How pathetic...
I used Moblie Beat top 200 yrs back as an idea for my own created top 200. I designed it for my local region as the MB200 was magazine wide. I have chenged it yearly and even more frequent. I also gain my billboard top lists along with the local radio weekly top 20. Its pretty damned simple I spend my time researching. I wowed a couple folks at my pub gig tonite playing Amplifier. thanks Steve for turning me onto it. They were amazed that I would play Brown music at a pub predominantly white. It is what I eat sleep and breath. MUSIC LEARN IT!!!! LIVE IT!! LOVE IT!!! I cant stress enough how important music knowledge is over any other portion of what we do. I have used the crappiest of gear and didnt always have the mic skills I have but I always had the music knowledge it has been my mainstay and bread and butter. This list makes me laugh.
Why all the need for somebody else's music play list? Simply keep a database of the songs YOU played at ALL your functions and then see where the "duplication" exists...wah lah...there's you list of most frequently played songs in 2009 or 2010 or whatever year. Works for me.
I've never seen or heard of an 18,000 song cheat sheet until now. When I went to the webpage I saw the words cheat sheet and looked no further. Even if it were a manageable cheat sheet it would still be someone elses songs. Having that playlist isn't any good if you don't have the songs.
I had a 4 page list of songs I could reference quickly if I needed. I also had an 8 page list of songs according to dance type like waltz, foxtrot, two step, cha cha ... That's why I mentioned Cap, he lists all his dance songs this way from what I understand. I also had 3 pages of music sets.
I had a 4 page list of songs I could reference quickly if I needed. I also had an 8 page list of songs according to dance type like waltz, foxtrot, two step, cha cha ... That's why I mentioned Cap, he lists all his dance songs this way from what I understand. I also had 3 pages of music sets.
I wonder how much money I could make, if I indexed the song loaded hard drives they sell on CL and eBay...? I have one too... 
BTW, I think many are missing the point here -- if you mention Tom's name when buying this thing, he gets money...
BTW, I think many are missing the point here -- if you mention Tom's name when buying this thing, he gets money...
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Well folks, first of all keep in mind that I am not feeling very well today and am cranky as a result. I got an e-mail from Neal which I will post below. Neal is not a member here and based on the reception his list got, I doubt he will be.
Neal is selling a tool to help for the dry moments. He is even giving you a range of prices for it. For me, I thought it was worth the $19.95 I paid for it and I plan on contributing back to Neal with some of the things I have accumulated over the years.
Remember, if you get something for nothing then that's probably exactly what it is worth in many cases. If you put a value on it then it has some meaning. Neal put a value on this and he ain't asking for millions.
* Duplicate entries - Yep. I'm working on cleaning that up.
* Tripled entries - Those too
* Misspelled artist names - Mark Twain once said I can never respect a man who can only find 1 way to spell something
* Incorrect song titles - Uh oh
* Miscategorizations of songs and artists - Does he know there's no such word as "miscategorization"?
* Empty fields - Intentional. Not every section will be filled out or needs to be filled out.
This was my personal list. I'd be somewhat surprised if anyone has a perfect list of songs with no dups, or typos, but it worked for me. It was never meant to be sold. Since I gave this away freely to some friends, and they thought it was worth money, I decided to sell it.
I'm also in the process of updating it, and I'll continue to refine it. If anyone wants to offer suggestions I'm all ears. I'd appreciate some input from "the experts".
This list is meant to help spur thought and not to be the only songs one should ever use for a wedding. Far from it. Every DJ should maximize their own style. There may just be a nugget or 3 in this list that's helpful. And if not, then all anyone needs to do is ask for a refund.
There are absolutely 1000's of lists online for free as one poster mentioned. So this list isn't going to further the "anybody can be a DJ" problem. Those who never pay for anything and think they can be a DJ won't buy this. They'll just get it for free from Google.
Neal is selling a tool to help for the dry moments. He is even giving you a range of prices for it. For me, I thought it was worth the $19.95 I paid for it and I plan on contributing back to Neal with some of the things I have accumulated over the years.
Remember, if you get something for nothing then that's probably exactly what it is worth in many cases. If you put a value on it then it has some meaning. Neal put a value on this and he ain't asking for millions.
Tom
Even if the list were free I can't see it being useful unless you own most of the 18,000 songs or intend to purchase them.
There is one thing that was said about him in this thread that I didn't like but outside of that I don't see any reason he shouldn't visit here. Because people don't like his playlist is not a good reason.
Even if the list were free I can't see it being useful unless you own most of the 18,000 songs or intend to purchase them.
There is one thing that was said about him in this thread that I didn't like but outside of that I don't see any reason he shouldn't visit here. Because people don't like his playlist is not a good reason.
I agree. The only reason I wasn't posting here is just because there are so many DJ forums. It can quickly eat up your time.
So anyway, here I am. I didn't want to seem like I was hiding.
This is a bit unusual though. I've already been called a hack and disparaged before my first post. Usually it takes me at least 4-5 posts before that happens.
If you want to get to know me a little before you start lambasting me give me a call 770.643.0103 or shoot me an email [email protected]
It seems there have been some conclusions already formed. If you want to know more just let me know. If not, it's cool.
Do you NEED this to be a good DJ? Heck NO!!
Can it be helpful? I think so.
I don't expect every DJ to buy or even want this. But I will answer your questions if you ask. Fair enough?
Got questions? (As Pat Benatar sang) Fire away.
Steve LeBlanc
DJ Extraordinaire
Neal - Welcome......You'll find some here a bit extreme (in a bad way) when it comes to certain topics.....
Neal
I was responding to this post:
My post was not worded properly. Sorry for that.
I never got the impression you were the hiding type from any of your posts. If you don't visit here I knows it has nothing to do with the reception of your playlist. You're too good of a businessman for that.
My personal opinion of you is a good one. You are opinionated but you're no hack. I'm just not crazy about the playlist, thats all.
I was responding to this post:
My post was not worded properly. Sorry for that.
I never got the impression you were the hiding type from any of your posts. If you don't visit here I knows it has nothing to do with the reception of your playlist. You're too good of a businessman for that.
My personal opinion of you is a good one. You are opinionated but you're no hack. I'm just not crazy about the playlist, thats all.
Thanks Steve. Me too sometimes, which is why I try to limit my posting. I'm not here to offend or fight.
Thanks! I understood what you meant, it's cool. I was just letting anyone who "may" have thought I was hiding, that I'm not.
That is perfectly ok with me. I expect many will have the same opinion. I don't own every helpful piece of information either. Some work for us, some don't.
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If you don't have a good product, don't try to sell it. Just because someone suggests that you charge for something doesn't mean that you have to charge. If you have a good product that you want to sell, at least provide a decent sample.
As for "miscategorization," I submitted it to unwords.com, because I think it should be a word. For now, take the term to have similar meaning to misclassification, which is a word listed in the online dictionaries.
By the way, I stand by my opinion in full. Before some folks decide to label me a troll, those who have met me know that I don't hold back on my opinion. What I say online is the same stuff that I would say in person, although there might be some differences due to my ability to edit posts to soften a blow.
And Tom, I don't care if you email this post to Neal, too. While you're at it, you can PM me with anything that other folks write about me on other forums.
As for "miscategorization," I submitted it to unwords.com, because I think it should be a word. For now, take the term to have similar meaning to misclassification, which is a word listed in the online dictionaries.
By the way, I stand by my opinion in full. Before some folks decide to label me a troll, those who have met me know that I don't hold back on my opinion. What I say online is the same stuff that I would say in person, although there might be some differences due to my ability to edit posts to soften a blow.
And Tom, I don't care if you email this post to Neal, too. While you're at it, you can PM me with anything that other folks write about me on other forums.
1. The next version will be MUCH better and cleaner. I agree the first round of sales were a bit pre-mature. However the information is still very usable.
2. What would a "decent sample" be in your opinion?
3. Earlier you referred to me as a "hack". What is your definition of that word and why do you think I am one?
Steve LeBlanc
DJ Extraordinaire
Anna -Who made you judge of all products? You may not like the product; that doesn't
make the vendor a hack, nor does he deserve to be called same.
Let's compare companies and see who the hack is...
make the vendor a hack, nor does he deserve to be called same.
Let's compare companies and see who the hack is...
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And Tom, I don't care if you email this post to Neal, too. While you're at it, you can PM me with anything that other folks write about me on other forums.
Haven't e-mailed a damn thing to anybody other than a comical statement about how some folks here like to shoot the messenger. I duck bullets pretty well.
Neal's here now so say it to him directly.
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Neal. As I have said directly to you, I find your list very useful. I would not have purchased it or promoted it if I didn't.
We're not living in a perfect world and folks make typos. That's why erasers are on pencils.
To the rest of the folks on the board, Neal and I have had words before but that was before my "attitude readjustment". I have gone back over the posts over on ProDJ and, setting the big ego aside, I realize that there was some helpful stuff in there. Hell, there may have even been some helpful stuff in Peter's comments but, well, I think I need to take some Valium before looking back at those.
When you stop trying to think of the next attack on the person and start concentrating on what is being said by that person then you start really communicating. I admit that the hardest thing I have ever done is listen rather than dissect and look for weakness. In listening comes giving the benefit of the doubt as to intentions.
BTW, I hate summer colds. They make me cranky. DayQuil helps.