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At 40, you weren't born yesterday, so the notion that you didn't know just baffles me, especially when you follow it by saying how savvy you are to the internet.

If it was "illegal" there wouldnt be these kind of sites on the internet.
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Please explain how the above statement works or makes any sense. That's like saying: a car can go to 170 MPH, therefore it's legal to drive 170 MPH. If it were illegal, they wouldn't MAKE cars that can go that fast. At least in that lame argument the word "free" is in the word "freeway".

But, since you're willing to "pay the fine", can we have your full name, phone number and street address, so you can take care of that?
 
You all can either hate me, like me, or whatever, but Im sure I can find other forums on here for Djing. And also not have any hopocits like there is on here. I could care less what my reputation is, our how anyone wants to look at me, I know who I am. All I did was make a simple sugestion, and it got blown out of perportion.
 
Thanks for clearing up your thought process for me. You entered a discussion. I'm trying to have one with you.

And, the word you're trying to use is "hypocrite".
 
djsarge said:
And what if the fine is several thousand dollars?
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It's better to spend a lot more than several thousands in a legal good sounding collection than throwing the money down the drain.
 
djmike said:
All I did was make a simple sugestion, and it got blown out of perportion.
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I respectfully disagree. It did not get blown out of proportion... in fact I believe the proportions were fairly exacted upon a subject matter that hurts all legit DJ's in this industry along with record producers and ultimately the artists themselves.

It may seem like an innocent act to log into a site that allows you to share your files... how nice someone is willing to share with me and isn't that what we are taught from the time we stop pooping in our pampers that we should share and play nice?

In this case the law is very clear in the US anyway. It is quite clear that the sharing or making available to the general public copyrighted works without the proper licenses and authorization from the copyright holder except in the case of public domain works is not only illegal but a punisable act. Not only that but it does not make a distiction between file sharing for private use versus commercial use it's equally as illegal either way.

Please don't take this the wrong way... I wouldn't want to offend nobody. But, it is a simple fact of law. I neither wrote it nor enacted it but I must abide by it.

Please understand that we are telling you this because we truely want all that visit here to be the best possible professional DJ they can be whether they do this on the weekends as a hobby or as their main form of income.
 
I tried to warn you.

You all can either hate me, like me, or whatever, but I'm sure I can find other forums on here for Djing. And also not have any hopocits like there is on here.
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There are some other forums where I think you'll have better luck. Try www.discjockeyamerica.com It's a paid site but you do get a free test drive. They're a little more receptive to new comers. Just tell them I sent you.
 

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djmike said:
You know, I know TONS of people that use different sites to get their music without paying for them. If it was "illegal" there wouldnt be these kind of sites on the internet. Thats why its called the internet. Its there for all to use. Im 40 years old, I do think I know what is legal and what is illegal. I am well known where I come from. My g/f has over 2,000 songs that she has downloaded, and uses to listen to where ever she goes. I do the exact same thing. If I get "caught", I will pay the fine. Its that plain and simple. As I stated before, I DIDNT know it was illegal to download from P2P sites. Ive been on the internet since it first came out many moons ago(it seems like, anyways). What I have on this computer is for my personal use. I have a second laptop that I use for Djing. It has nothing on it except for my Dj software. It doesnt even get on the internet. It has the capabilities, but I completely took out all the drivers for the ethernet, and wireless on that computer. I run an external hard drive with that computer. That has all the "legally" purchased music on it. I try my best to as curtious and polite to everyone I talk to whether it be on here, other site I go to, or in person. If I knew anything was "illegal", I would not of said anything. So, with that being said, I will not post anything else for awhile untill things cool down for what I messed up. I will just take a little break for everything, and just "browse" around here to get some ideas that may help me be a better DJ. Im just starting out as a Dj, as I have been helping my uncle, who is also my boss and the owner, so I do have a long ways to go to get the idea of how things run. Again, Im sorry for stepping on anyones toes. Bye.


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Mike, if you don't pay for the music, it is stealing. Doesn't matter whether it is for business use or personal use. Surely you must have heard of the RIAA. Ignorance of the law is not a valid excuse in any case. The sites you mention can be legal to use if the music is not copywrited or you have permission. In reality, these sites promote illegal p2p sharing of copywrited music.
You say you know what's legal and what's illegal, yet you try and justify your actions in using these illegal sites.
Here's an example. Say you spent years traveling around the country photographing some of the most beautiful landscapes that ever existed. You put your pictures for sale on the internet. Then someone steals your work by downloading them and having them printed out and framed. You don't get paid. Same way with music. It's the wrong thing to do.
Lastly, don't be so quick to offer to pay a fine if you get caught. The fine could be thousands just for a few songs.
 
Guys,

Yas didn't like it when Merry, Cesar and McKay were preaching. Now here you are doing the same thing you read them the riot act for doing. Yup, that's a pretty accurate description of a hypocrite. :rolleyes:

You guys have made your point. Now drop it already. You don't want me getting involved, trust me on this one. :mad:
 
I re-read most of this thread. I don't see preaching, sorry.
 
Steve Sharp said:
I re-read most of this thread. I don't see preaching, sorry.
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Then read it again, Steve. And pay attention this time.

Rob's reaction in this thread was uncalled for and unnecessary. They are also a cross of our TOS. Your comments here aren't what I'd call neutral.

Preaching is exactly what it is. Unsolicited advice from self-righteous people who weren't asked for said advice. Honestly, if I didn't look up at the page header I'd think I was back at DJC. :rolleyes:

Here's the word, folks: The gang-banging that's been going on around here is gonna come to a stop. I will not abide disgraceful behavior towards fellow members.

Yas have a choice: Straighten up and fly right or the infractions come out. It's your choice to make. I'm gettin' tired of babysitting and damage control.

Everybody cool with that? Good. :)
 
I'm sure Rob and whomever else can speak for themselves.

My comments weren't intended to be neutral. Is neutrality required? Or am I allowed to have a point of view, ask questions, and at least attempt to engage in a discussion about them?
 
Steve,

You knew the answer to that before you asked the question. If neutrality were required, you'd have used some discretion. ;)

You said you didn't see preaching in this thread. I say look for the trees. They're right there in the forest.

You know full well what I'm saying here. :)
 
That's a negative, Fred.

If you think I didn't use discretion already, you should have seen what I wanted to type.
 
Rob called him out, not me.

Even though I object to them, I didn't criticize his actions, please find where I did, if you believe otherwise. I attempted to engage in a conversation about his various excuses for not knowing the illegality.
 
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