RCF ART 322a VS Yorkville U15

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Garret214 said:
I have never heard the Work speakers. They could be good? How much are you getting them for?
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Those speakers I'm getting for around $615.00 each including shipping. I do like the way they sound. Although I have not compared them in person side by side to the Mackie and JBL speakers in the same class, I've been told (by a JBL dealer) they outperform both. I'm guessing they are very similiar in performance. They are most widely distributed in Europe but are gaining small ground in the US. I know the importer and they do have US support and service.

More info on their products at www.equipson.es

thanks Garret....
 
jtnichol said:
Those speakers I'm getting for around $615.00 each including shipping. I do like the way they sound.
More info on their products at www.equipson.es

thanks Garret....
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I hope you have a STRONG BACK...its says 33KG or 72lbs each....for a lousy 400 watts

The FBT maxx9a 15" 700/200 with 900 total watts is only 29KG 63 lbs.........
 
I got to hear a pair of the passive Yorkville U15s today. The passive model needs to be used with the unity processor,this is a must. They didn't have the processor their. So the U15s didn't sound that good. The midrange was awesome, but the highs were harsh and their wasn't any low bass. The bass started to roll off around 70 hz and their was nothing below 50 hz. This is a speaker that must be used with a sub it all times. The U15 had ok sound in the sweet spot, but when I moved to the left or right you could hear the treble and mids drop off. You have to use two per side to get good coverage. They are a building block speaker. If you used three of them splayed with two LS 800p subs coupled per side. I'm sure the sound would be awesome. I would never recommend using just one on a stick.
 
I finally bought a new speaker. As nice as the RCF 322a is I wanted something with more bass. I don't want to take a sub with me if I don't have. Every one who I talked to that owns a ART series cab loves the sound. Great highs with a long wide throw. But most are saying that it needs a sub. Also I need a higher max SPL, a 128 db peak is fine for most indoor work. But I do alot of good sized outdoor stuff.

So what did I get? A Mackie SA 1521z. This speaker has the best bass I could find for under a thousand per cab. The highs on the Mackie aren't as smooth as the 322a, but it is close. The 1521 really thumps for a 15" two way. For smaller gigs no sub is needed. This monster can pack a punch! I got them from GC so I could take them back if I don't like them.

If anyone has done a shootout of the Mackie SA1521z and the QSC HPR 152i please chime in.
 
Good job Garret those will fulfill your need for the full sound without bringin the Boom box.
 
OH well make sure you have GOOD health insurance, those are 101 lbs each according to the website

For the less weight you could have gotten 2 FBT 900w att subs 63lbs and 2 400 watt tops 35lbs. or 98 lbs total......plus more then double the wattage. 1300 watts a channel.....

I maybe biased becuase i do almost all of my gigs in Manhattan, and dont have the luxury of easy flat load ins with no stairs, sturdy handicap ramps, instead i have broken sidewalks, gaps between the elevator and the floor no place close to unload or even covered...

so to me 101 lb speakers are a disaster waiting to hapen


Garret214 said:
I finally bought a new speaker. As nice as the RCF 322a is I wanted something with more bass. I don't want to take a sub with me if I don't have. Every one who I talked to that owns a ART series cab loves the sound. Great highs with a long wide throw. But most are saying that it needs a sub. Also I need a higher max SPL, a 128 db peak is fine for most indoor work. But I do alot of good sized outdoor stuff.

So what did I get? A Mackie SA 1521z. This speaker has the best bass I could find for under a thousand per cab. The highs on the Mackie aren't as smooth as the 322a, but it is close. The 1521 really thumps for a 15" two way. For smaller gigs no sub is needed. This monster can pack a punch! I got them from GC so I could take them back if I don't like them.

If anyone has done a shootout of the Mackie SA1521z and the QSC HPR 152i please chime in.
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aNYCdj said:
OH well make sure you have GOOD health insurance, those are 101 lbs each according to the website

For the less weight you could have gotten 2 FBT 900w att subs 63lbs and 2 400 watt tops 35lbs. or 98 lbs total......plus more then double the wattage. 1300 watts a channel.....

I maybe biased becuase i do almost all of my gigs in Manhattan, and dont have the luxury of easy flat load ins with no stairs, sturdy handicap ramps, instead i have broken sidewalks, gaps between the elevator and the floor no place close to unload or even covered...

so to me 101 lb speakers are a disaster waiting to hapen
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NYC,

I'm not sure what FBT models you are talking about. I just looked at the Maxx6a. It costs $1400.00 per cab and has a 128 db output. Two thousand eight hundred is more then I have to spend and I need more output than a 128 db. The Mackie does 133 db and the QSC will do 135 db. Tha mack is $850.00 per cab and QSC is around 950.00.

I live out in the sticks and do alot of good sized outdoor parties. Only one of the halls I play at has stairs. I also use a roadie so the 101 lbs isn't that big of a deal.
 
aNYCdj said:
... so to me 101 lb speakers are a disaster waiting to hapen
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Got that right. I'd be leery of loading 101 lb cabinets even under the best of circumstances. If there's ice on the sidewalks or a plow pile in front of the door, forget it.

Folks have tried to talk me into active birch cabs... but there ain't no way I can manage loading those heavy beasts. :eek:
 
I can't depend on a roady showing up at the end of the night, so I keep my gear lightweight. The FBT's he's talking about are the Maxx 4a, I use that speaker. They are awesome! I believe they are only rated at a modest 123dB but they have no problem keeping up with a good pair of subs when they are crossed over. No problem at all... A pair of them will draw 1.3 amps when cranked running full-range, very efficient cab's.
 
maestro said:
I can't depend on a roady showing up at the end of the night, so I keep my gear lightweight. The FBT's he's talking about are the Maxx 4a, I use that speaker. They are awesome! I believe they are only rated at a modest 123dB but they have no problem keeping up with a good pair of subs when they are crossed over. No problem at all... A pair of them will draw 1.3 amps when cranked running full-range, very efficient cab's.
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Steve have ever thought about getting the RCF 310a. They have more output then the maxx 4a. From what I hear from Pat. They sound awesome when teamed up with a RCF 705a sub.
 
Fred Stewart said:
Got that right. I'd be leery of loading 101 lb cabinets even under the best of circumstances. If there's ice on the sidewalks or a plow pile in front of the door, forget it.

Folks have tried to talk me into active birch cabs... but there ain't no way I can manage loading those heavy beasts. :eek:
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Fred I got the Macks today. I put them on sticks all by myself. It's not that heavy. You just have to grip it right.
 
Sorry for dipping into the conversation here. But the FBT Maxx 4a's sound great even without a sub. It would be hard for me to believe that a 10" would be a better choice. I heard the 4a's when I went to visit Pat at a gig in Allentown, PA.
I know he is happy with the 10"s but knowing good old Pat. They will be up for sale by the end of this summer.:sqwink:
 
If I had heard the 4as when I first was in the market for plastic crappy sounding speakers I certainly would have chosen th 4a's as they sound as close to REALISTIC birch cabs as plastic ever imagined. When hearing Steves I was thoroughly impressed and even more so when teamed up with the RCF subs he has added since. thus my next purchase RCF Subs.
 
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