Rockit 5 - Feature Requests

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SoftJock Rick said:
Well, I'm still somewhat confused, because I thought I had addressed that in post 42 and 43. But then Dave brought up the discard song playing...

Again -- if someone could do a record of a mix how they want the command to come out, I could probably duplicate it. I'm just slightly unsure, because it has been described in a couple different ways...

If I hear it, I can dupe it :)
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I want it to do the exact thing that OTS does for playing a song next but with out telling it to go to a deck. I guess that might be a problem because your system has 8 decks maybe? how about the next open unused deck.
 
nextgen1 said:
I want it to do the exact thing that OTS does for playing a song next but with out telling it to go to a deck. I guess that might be a problem because your system has 8 decks maybe? how about the next open unused deck.
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Actually, I have OTS AV and Rockit running side by side right now, playing with this (Rockit plays well with all the other kids on the playground :))...

Best I can tell, Rockit does the same thing, just in a different way.

Double clicking a song in Rockit, loads it to the next available deck (using a simple two deck config like OTS). So, if a song is playing in A, double-click a song in the list, and it loads to B. There is one extra step, you click the mix to B button, or mix next button, or map a shortcut key for either function, or press Ctrl+B, F5, etc...

I'll put the commands on the context menu if you like, but context menus use more overhead then double-clicking (nature of the beast -- you have to create a new window, with its own WindowProc handler, which is another thread each time you right click).

Personally, I think it would be easier to learn how to use Rockit, instead of making Rockit into OTS... :sqbiggrin:
 
nextgen1 said:
I want it to do the exact thing that OTS does for playing a song next but with out telling it to go to a deck. I guess that might be a problem because your system has 8 decks maybe? how about the next open unused deck.
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Ok, I put it in, although I still like my way better... :)

It's available on the popup menu, as well as a shortcut mapping, and MIDI mapping.
 
Randy A said:
What about having the ability to resave over a current playlist. My reason, I add songs each week to my Prime Cuts folder. Then, I go into RockIt and add those files into the library. For me to recreate the Playlists folder, I have to delete it out of the C: drive and then resave. Would really like to just hit the 'create playlist' button and resave over the old Prime Cuts folder.
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I added an allow overwrite function when creating playlists from folders -- just for you Randy :)
 
nextgen1 said:
Damn you Rick your just trying to have me buy more stuff and spend more money. My wife is going to hate you lol. :sqlaugh: So Rick when will rockit 5 be coming out and what is the price tag on it.
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If you have to ask, you can't afford it.:sqlaugh:
 
nextgen1 said:
So Rick when will rockit 5 be coming out and what is the price tag on it.
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When it's done... ;) :)

I don't know how much -- that sorta depends on the beer futures market at the time of release :D
 
Randy A said:
Just a question that popped into my head....

Will there be any loss of functionality between V4 and V5? I didn't know if making any changes to support something in V5, removed something that was in V4.
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No :)
 
Just to babble, since I figure the snow will finally be off the roof hatch in about 30 minutes, and I can actually get up there to see the damage (tree's still on it BTW -- can't be removed until they can get trucks and ladders in)... :sqerr:

V5 removes nothing from V4. It's basically a workover of things, fine tuning, adding features you folks want, etc.

I do not expect to substantially increase the price -- just a small amount, to cover cost of living, inflation, development costs :)

Quite a bit of work has gone into the "back end", to make things work smoother with external hard drives, which seem to be the rage these days. One thing I've done, is try to make all new stuff optional, so if you don't like the behavior, you can revert to V4 behavior.

It's working very well and clean, and I expect after a couple/few more weeks of dev., I will design the release skins, docs, and put it through final testing... :)
 
So will the skins be able to stretch to ones particular monitor size? I asked this before and got humor HAHA!! Answer please? One other thing. What is the exact purpose for DJs to have 6 decks? Just trying to figure out why A DJ who doesnt need key control etc would need 6 decks.
 
Jon Tuck said:
So will the skins be able to stretch to ones particular monitor size? I asked this before and got humor HAHA!! Answer please? .
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And all you will get, is humor again... :sqlaugh: :rofl:

No -- it is not readily conceivable with Rockit's skinning system. It would take 150k lines of code on my part, and still look as stupid as VDJ's stretch ;)

Change your screen resolution -- trust me, it's easier, and looks better. If not, design your own skin from scratch, or work with an existing one -- that's the purpose of the skinning system, so the end user can modify it to do what they want it to :)


Jon Tuck said:
One other thing. What is the exact purpose for DJs to have 6 decks? Just trying to figure out why A DJ who doesnt need key control etc would need 6 decks.
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It's 8 decks actually, but who's counting :sqlaugh: :rofl:

The purpose is for remote capability. There are actually 4 main decks available (many people love that feature) -- and they have no use for keylock. They like to have 4 songs loaded at any given time, so if they change their mind at the last moment, they just mix in one of the other decks.

The other decks are 2 for video, the audio jukebox and sampler. You can use separate sound cards, and use those decks for remote rooms -- read, ceremonies, cocktail lounge, etc., while still mixing on your main decks. All decks in Rockit can play full songs, even the sampler and video decks, and all can play simultaneously.

There are actually 2 more decks, but I don't make them available to you folks in documentation -- they are for my use for specialized skins.
 
For those that actually use the MyComputer/Computer explorer in Rockit...

I know a few have mentioned about the speed issues, because we have to parse while reading the directory/folder. So, I've been playing with a few options and such, and threaded this out (optional) to make it less of a drag on the interface itself.

I've found that if I do a simple filename parse (Re: just split it up via the mask, I can make this incredibly fast, but the only info available, is whatever is in the filename.

For example, my mask is the default (title - artist). So, basically the only info that shows in the main list, is that.

Looking for thoughts on how you like to see what's in the list in this scenario, versus what I can do speed wise, and with less interference to whatever else is going on at the moment...
 
Rick - I'd probably buy Rock-it if it had that functionality....to see the library as folders...That's how I sort my music; For me, it's easier to scroll through my "current" folder; if I'm looking for a current song and sort by title/artist/bpm.

You could do it but if you tried to search within the same folder; the audio would hiccup; only while searching that same directory...

Is this what you're alluding to?.
 
Steve LeBlanc said:
Rick - I'd probably buy Rock-it if it had that functionality....to see the library as folders...That's how I sort my music; For me, it's easier to scroll through my "current" folder; if I'm looking for a current song and sort by title/artist/bpm.

You could do it but if you tried to search within the same folder; the audio would hiccup; only while searching that same directory...

Is this what you're alluding to?.
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Yeah, sorta -- I think...

The thing is, Rockit was not designed to use the Computer Explorer, it was designed to use its library, which is an in memory list. That makes everything very fast, is threaded already, sortable, searchable, etc.

I only added the computer explorer tree, so that it would be easier if a song wasn't already added to the library or a playlist, and to easily create playlists based on folders. It's not something I would use, but I find people are still stuck in the PCDJ days, and using it to try and find music.

So, what I'm trying to do, is make it faster, until folks read the manual about how the library works, and makes your life easier :)


The caveat, is that in order to do so, I have to change the way it works, and only limited information is available -- basically what is in the filename.


BTW, you can drag and drop from Window's Explorer into Rockit, if you like their way better. Just have an Explorer window open, size and place it where you like, and let Windows do the work -- I'm flexible :)
 
This works great when needed Rick

I have used it when I didnt have something loaded perhaps for one song or a few and hadnt added them to Rockit yet.:sqwink:
SoftJock Rick said:
BTW, you can drag and drop from Window's Explorer into Rockit, if you like their way better. Just have an Explorer window open, size and place it where you like, and let Windows do the work -- I'm flexible :)
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If I understand correctly, you have written a new mask that will display the MyComputer tree quickly, but only with the Title & Artist fields. Correct?

And, if I understood correctly from a previous thread you are working on speed access to an external drives. Correct?

Two moves that would make it easier on myself.

By having the ability to build the library on an external and then syncing that to a backup, allows me freedom to use that drive on any computer that I want without having to update so many things to make sure I have things current on all machines.
 
I currently use my drive for two seperate lappys of course only one at a time. Though my back up drive could also run on either as well.
 
Randy A said:
If I understand correctly, you have written a new mask that will display the MyComputer tree quickly, but only with the Title & Artist fields. Correct?

And, if I understood correctly from a previous thread you are working on speed access to an external drives. Correct?

Two moves that would make it easier on myself.

By having the ability to build the library on an external and then syncing that to a backup, allows me freedom to use that drive on any computer that I want without having to update so many things to make sure I have things current on all machines.
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No, the mask is the same -- that is settable by you, in the Library Manager->Settings. You can set that to whatever your filenames are. There are 5 fields available in the mask, but it's up to you to make sure they all match across your files.

The speed up thing, is not using a tag parse when displaying through the MyComputer tree. Basically, I would just parse the filenames, and not try to see if tags are available, read them , etc.

It makes for about a 1000% speed increase, but you will only see what can be parsed from the filename itself, based upon the mask you set above. In other words, if you mask was say <artist - title>, that's all that would show up in the list -- the other fields like genre, etc., would be blank.

I totally understand what you are looking to do Randy, but the above are caveats, because in order to make that speed change, I have to leave some processing out.

What I'm trying to determine, is whether that is acceptable to folks...
 
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