Slight Miscalculation

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If they are windows PCs, you can always try Microsoft's KM sharing tool: Microsoft Garage: Mouse Without Borders You can even cut/paste between systems
OK... Let me say first that Mouse Without Borders works. It's free, so it's definitely worth that.:laugh: Actually, it's as good as Synergy and in some ways better. You can copy files from one computer to another (but not folders unless you zip them and copy them as files). I wish it would link up to the (shared keyboard) host before login so I wouldn't have to use the rack-mounted keyboard to log into the Video computer before the wireless keyboard/mouse of the music computer links up, but that's OK. Interesting that unlike Synergy, the link works both ways... meaning the rack-mounted keyboard attached to the Video computer works on the Music computer the same as the wireless keyboard/mouse on the Music computer works on the Video computer. That could come in handy. I think I'll keep it and try for it a while. It's certainly better than buying another ShareMouse license.
 
... Mouse Without Borders works. ... I wish it would link up to the (shared keyboard) host before login so I wouldn't have to use the rack-mounted keyboard to log into the Video computer before the wireless keyboard/mouse of the music computer links up, but that's OK...

Easy solution for this issue... DUH!!!:laugh: I just deleted the password. Now it boots up right into the Windows desktop, and the shared keyboard works. No need to use the rack-mounted keyboard. The other thing I discovered about Mouse Without Borders; unlike Synergy, you can still use the mouse and keyboard when installing software. With Synergy, it would force you to use the keyboard (and mouse) connected to the computer during software installations. So far, Mouse Without Borders is working pretty well. Haven't had any kind of a lockup or other issues yet, but it requires a lot more testing before I can trust it completely. I carry wired (USB) mouse and keyboard as a contingency, but have never had to use it (and hope I never do).:djsmug:

Speaking of contingencies, I have been giving that some thought as well. There are fewer components in my signal chain than I had in the previous version of my large system, but there are NO backups for anything other than the DJ computer and the controller. I have a Pioneer controller I carry as a backup for my American Audio controller, and the (rack-mounted) Video computer can be used to play music if the DJ computer goes down (though the Video computer does not attach to a controller). My contingency has always been to just plug the XLR cables from the speakers into the back of the controller, bypassing the rack completely, if anything went wrong in the signal chain. I guess that is still the plan for now. Troubleshooting audio problems with components inside the rack would be pretty difficult during a performance. I could also hook my laptop up directly to the speakers if something catastrophic occurred with the rack. I do try to practice making these kinds of equipment swaps to simulate what could happen, so at least I won't panic (hopefully) should something like that happen at a gig.

I have all the software installed on my new Video computer now (mostly). It cost more than $120 to re-license four of the applications. One application (a video mixer application) that I had installed on the old computer is no longer free, so I have to find a replacement for it or buy the license. I'm still looking for a free or cheaper option before pulling the trigger on that one. It's a pretty important application because it allows me to select what is displayed on the projector without the audience seeing my desktop. I'm not too worried about it right now since I'm not really offering that feature, but I will eventually need to resolve that issue. Live video mixing programs are pretty expensive, so it's unfortunate that I can't just reinstall the one I had.:(
 
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Today... well... probably not gonna do anything with my DJ systems today. The thing about being retired is, you have a lot more jobs than the one job you had before you retired.[emoji1] One day you're the Geek Squad, fixing the in-law's computer; the next day you're the pool boy, or the gardener, or the housekeeper. Today... I'm the plumber. I got a new kitchen faucet yesterday, and it needs to be installed. I really hate working under the kitchen sink, but I guess I should be thankful I'm fixing a sink instead of a clogged up toilet![emoji1] It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the glasses... HATE 'EM![emoji1] Can't see stuff close up without 'em, but I can't see with 'em either when I get sweat on 'em, and when I'm doing manual labor, I'm gonna get sweat on 'em.[emoji1] I think the results will be worth it. The faucet leaks, and the sprayer handle is broken, so it NEEDS to be done. Not as much fun as playing with my DJ toys, but it will make the wife happy.[emoji4] Shouldn't make any difference to HER, since I'm also the Cook and Dishwasher... lots of jobs. The new DMX wash lights won't get here 'til Friday. Can hardly wait![emoji4]


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Lights came early. We went out to dinner at 5:15PM and got home by 7:00PM (to watch football, and there was a HUGE box on the porch... a HUGE HEAVY box. I dragged it inside but haven't opened it up yet. The (football) game wasn't very good... certainly playing with the new lights would have been more fun and a better use of my time, but hey... the wife and I are big Pro football fans. There's only so many games.[emoji4]


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I'm enjoying using my new large rack system, as well as my new ADJ Dotz TPar lights. I have the lights on Sound Active at the moment, and they look pretty good. I'm playing around with the DMX control software that came with my MyDMX 2.0, which is how I intend to control these lights. I mounted my two Mini Kinta's on top of the bar. I kinda wish I could flip the bar over so the Mini Kinta's were on the bottom, because the bracket on the Mini Kinta can't be flipped over, so they have to be mounted upside down. I don't think it's a problem, just awkward.

Unfortunately, the ADJ Dotz TPar did not arrive unscathed. The plastic on one of the adjustment knobs on the stand was shattered into little pieces. I'm using one of the knobs from my old light stand because this new one is a better stand. I've contacted the seller (IDJNow), and they seem to be willing to replace the knob. If not, I'll get one on my own. Worse things have happened.
 
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I think I'm pretty close to wrapping this project up. I ordered some DMX cables, microphone bags, and a new (larger) utility bag yesterday to carry the stuff I acquired for this project that isn't mounted in either the small or large rack. Those should be my final purchases related to this project. Both systems are fully usable now, and they work even better than I expected. It'll take me an hour or so to record all the purchases in a spreadsheet and calculate the final cost, but I it was not cheap.[emoji1] These kinds of projects that keep evolving and growing can nickel and dime you to death.[emoji1] I'll post one last time with a recap and a cost breakout when completed.


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Oops! I forgot... there was one other test I meant to do. I needed to see if I could pair a Bluetooth device up with my Denon DM-400X mixer. If you recall, there's a Bluetooth antenna mounted on the back of the mixer, and I was concerned about getting good reception since it's buried inside the rack and surrounded by dozens of patch cables. Well... my concerns were unjustified. I pulled a YouTube video of a song I like up on my iPhone, went to the Bluetooth settings (on the phone) and selected "DM04". It took a few seconds, but before I could even press the "Pair Device" button on the front of the mixer, my phone said it was "Connected". So I pressed the play button on the video, and DAMN!... it played.[emoji1] Actually, it sounded pretty good. Turned the volume up and down on the phone... no problem. Started walking around the house to see what the range was, but it continued working clear on the opposite side of the house... that's at least 60 feet. This was much easier than pairing up my TS112W Bluetooth enabled speakers. I think I like it, and it could definitely come in handy in a pinch. AND, if I ever wanted to allow a guest to play something from their smart phone, this would be the perfect method, because they never physically plug anything into my system.


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So... I think this post is gonna wrap up any new activity related to the project, which was the subject of this thread. Of course, I'll respond to any comments and questions, but the project is DONE. But let me recap...

This whole thing started because I wanted to replace the mixer in my small rack system. This is what it used to look like...

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Unfortunately, the Denon DN-410X I bought new on eBay didn't fit. I entitled the thread "Slight Miscalculation", but probably should have called it "NO calculation", because I didn't check the size of the mixer before I bought it, didn't really pay much attention to where on the mixer cables would plug in, and I did not check to see how much clearance there was in the rack. :laugh: Pretty much P1$$ poor planning.:laugh:
I asked the forum for advice, and steve149 made me buy a Denon MC6000 MK2:laugh:, which not only replaced the old mixer, but also replaced the old American Audio DP-2 controller; cost of the new controller: $445. The old mixer is now retired, as is the old controller. The new Denon MC6000 MK2 that steve149 made me buy required modifications to my small rack, in order to provide access to the knobs, switches, and headphone jacks on the front. I was able to cut out a section of the case, reinforce it with wood, fill it with Bondo, and sand it and paint it to match. Except for the can of paint, I already had everything else I used for this part of the project. Total cost of the paint: $10.

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Then I replaced the old 1U rack-mounted computer with a Dell Optiplex 7440 AIO computer, which not only replaced the old computer, but also replaced the Acer 22" monitor. I bought a new 2TB SSHD drive to replace the 128GB SSD drive that came in the computer, and I also purchased and installed an additional 4GB of RAM. The AIO computer is a significant upgrade in performance, and it's screen is almost 2 inches larger than the monitor. The old small system included a 1U rack mounted keyboard drawer. Removed that and replaced it with a wireless keyboard and mouse combo. The cost of the new AIO computer, hard drive, and memory was $397.98. The Acer monitor will be relegated to backup duty (for the dual 22" Acer monitors I use for my large system). The old computer was pulled out of its 1U case and put into a smaller case, and is now my bedroom computer (replacing an Intel Stick PC). Not sure what I'm gonna do with the Stick PC.

Removing the 1U computer and 1U drawer from the lower 2U section of the small rack freed up space to install a wireless microphone system, which I did not have in my small system before. Previously, I had an older single mic system I had bought used on eBay that I plugged into the old mixer when I needed an extra microphone. So I removed the dual microphone system (GTD Audio G622HL) from my large system, and mounted it in my small system, along with the Alto 15 band equalizer that was previously in my large system. However, I decided the equalizer was not necessary, so I replaced it with a 1U drawer; also removed from my large rack system. This part of the project added no additional cost for the small system. The 1U rack mounted keyboard drawer will be retired or used in the rack holding my home servers.

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The one thing I DID like about the original small system was that the old mixer had an XLR mic input on top for my Bogan gooseneck mic, and it had a BNC mounted gooseneck LED light. I already had an XLR connector for the mic, but had to purchase a new USB gooseneck LED light, and a USB plate for plugging it in. I had purchased a 2U hinged rack panel to place over the opening above the controller in the top section of the rack, and I cut holes in it to mount the XLR jack and the USB plate. The cost for the LED light, USB plate, and hinged rack panel was $30.

The only parts used from my original small system were the Bogan microphone, the VESA bracket, and the rack case itself; as well as the rack mounted power distributor, the 1U patch panel plate, and the 2U vented rack pane (all of which were mounted on the back of the rack case). I had installed the rails on the back during the original build of my small system several years ago. Everything else (including wireless keyboard/mouse combo, dust cover, and miscellaneous parts and cables) is new or re-purposed. Total cost: $1,010.25. I have no idea how much actual time I spent on these mods. I've spent far more time thinking about it than actually doing anything. I'd guess I have about 6-7 hours of actual work. I spent far more time waiting for stuff I ordered to be delivered and probably at least as much time posting entries about it in this thread.

This project did have a domino effect, though. Besides the rebuilding and re-purposing of the old IU rack mounted computer from the small system, there were resulting upgrades made to my large system. Here's the original configuration of my large rack system...

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The Denon DN-410X mixer that did not fit in my small rack has replaced the Samson rotary mixer used previously... a very nice upgrade. Removing the wireless microphone and Equalizer and reinstalling them in the small rack system meant purchasing a new wireless microphone system for the large rack... the GTD Audio B-33; cost: $299. A four mic system running on a frequency that won't be obsolete soon is certainly an upgrade from the old GTD system I put in the small rack. I reused the 1U computer case from the small system, and built a new computer in it to replace the 2U video/light controller PC mounted in the large rack. The new quad core i5 PC is a significant upgrade over the old Pentium machine. I had to buy a few cables and connectors to accommodate the changes made in the large rack, the cost of which was $150$. The cost of the computer parts was $315. Add the cost of the Denon mixer ($263). The total cost for the upgrades to my large system was $1,061.51. Retired was the old 2U Pentium computer (but I'll reuse the 2U rack-mountable case elsewhere), and the Samson rotary mixer. The 1U drawer from my large system went into the small system to replace the 1U rack mounted keyboard drawer. Here's what my large rack system looks like now...

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... Don't give me a hard time about cable management. This system was set up in my office for testing; not for public performing.:djsmug: Total cost to upgrade both my small and large rack systems was about $2,100.

I ordered about $200 worth of additional cables and carry bags I'll need to transport some of the new purchases, but I did not order the custom case for my small system. For now, I'll continue to use the soft-cover case I've been using, even though it is a little too large. Perhaps I'll just cut some pieces of foam to fill the empty spaces, but eventually a nice custom hard case with wheels would be a better solution.

I'm not counting the ADJ Dotz TPar lights I bought, since they really had nothing to do with my racks. But with all these upgrades, I'm ready for whatever business comes my way. Thanks for reading and commenting.

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