The number one job of a hotel/motel is hospitality - which is the whole picture. Odd how that happens.
Spotify - crossing over to the dark side
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I think you're taking a bit of an extreme view, at least the way I read what you've written. I too, don't see any single song as a "make or break" issue. Even dropping a dud in the middle of a dance set won't do that. I also, in no way consider myself the ultimate source of limitless material, nor do I sell myself as such. I do see it as my duty to try and use every possible means to provide requested material and having streaming available is just another way to try and do just that. Some guys look at hot downloads much the same way and are quick to tell a requester, "I don't have that" but I regularly use amazon, pretty much on every gig. Personally, I just view it as an issue of me putting forth the effort rather than offering an excuse.
Totally untrue statement. I never mentioned not playing their songs. I was clearly responding to a one off request which would involve streaming.
Takes one to know one. Shall we continue degrading this conversation?
Why not - you are the one that said it. Read your previous posts.
So Pro, your definition of hospitality includes trying to please one person by having instantaneous access to every track possible (which is still not possible btw) to play on their demand, at the risk of pissing off more than one person if it's played? Sounds like pretzel logic to me!
Rick, it might be an extreme view in some instances - because there are those here portraying it in extreme views. My feel from you was that you might use streaming during a certain part of a function where others , like myself, would not. I have no issues with that. I do take issue with those that claim the ability to instantly gratify a persons request made them larger than life.
I'm getting the feeling you're not seeing the whole thread. Are you blocking people?
yeah Rick, I think you're blocking a wheatie-pisser.
Oh, I thought you were pissed at me (and couldn't understand why). Yes, I've blocked a few of the "I've just gotta be an arsehole" crowd. Now let me click "show ignored content" and see if I'm guessing the players correctly.
I really think we're in the same camp as that I prefer to control my own playlist on weddings also. However, when it comes to a 13 year old, birthday party, I fully admit that I'm (somewhat) a fish out of water and often struggle to find good before dance set music. Rather than me making stupid guesses and playing all Disney tracks, in that particular instance, I'll defer to spotify as I actually believe it does a better job than I of picking material. Throw stones if you wish and tell me how deficient of a DJ I am but if I believe something is better, I believe it's my duty to use it.
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I'm pretty good at navigating with a map .. but I use my GPS systems almost all the time because they are better at certain things. Same with some of the "genius" song selection algorithms. Nothing stops anyone from letting the algorithm pick a song or songs, but you playing them off your vetted library instead. Just another tool.
So DJ TJ, how about you speak for yourself instead of trying to speak for and define me?
Q: To what tracks are you referring that I would not have instantaneous access too? Could you please list these and the location which you are calling inaccessible?
Just to indulge you - I thought I would give your hypothesis a test and load a request I got 20 years ago - something I had only ever owned on cassette tape. Surfing with the Alien - Joe Satriani It came up instantaneously - imagine that!
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I wasn't throwing stones - and if it appeared so, they were not aimed at you. I in no way said that people that do this are less of a DJ. I did say, that for those that are limited to streaming, when that doesn't work, then what? I also said that streaming is just another tool in the belt.
I also think we're in the same camp. My sole complete push in here was that a person believed that the stream of a one song request made that person obtain a future booking. That same person also believes that you should entertain each and every request, regardless. Hog wash.
So DJ TJ, how about you speak for yourself instead of trying to speak for and define me?
Q: To what tracks are you referring that I would not have instantaneous access too? Could you please list these and the location which you are calling inaccessible?
Just to indulge you - I thought I would give your hypothesis a test and load a request I got 20 years ago - something I had only ever owned on cassette tape. Surfing with the Alien - Joe Satriani It came up instantaneously - imagine that!
He wasn't speaking for or defining you - you did that all on your own.
For the record, there are millions of tracks that are inaccessible at any given point in time - and for a large amount of them, you would be accessing them illegally. You're a big boy, go look them up on your own. To take it a step further, if you have limited or no Wifi, then none of them are accessible.
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Yea, entertaining EVERY request is just as bad as ignoring all requests. I think it's up to us to be the gatekeeper and decide what's stupid and what will work. Likewise, I think it's also quite ego-driven for us to just blow off guest requests. Sometimes they do un-cover hidden gems that I likely would've over-looked.
Well I'm not TJ but, speaking for myself, I believe I can pretty accurately define you. You're an ass. (proformance)
He wasn't speaking for or defining you - you did that all on your own.
For the record, there are millions of tracks that are inaccessible - and for a large amount of them, you would be accessing illegally. You're a big boy, go look them up on your own. If you have limited or no Wifi, then none of them are accessible.
To quote DJ Barry Scott: "Not all 45's are lost, many were simply discarded."
For the record - you can't be this ignorant of the current workplace standards and expect working DJs to lend merit to what you say.
It's not a coincidence that the same poster's who cop an attitude about clients, requests, hospitality, and their own inability to keep pace with technology - are the same ones complaining that business is bleak. It's cause and affect, people.
Oh I can .. and do. 'For the record', I have no inability to keep pace with technology - without people like me, you wouldn't even have wifi. I know very well what the limitations are. For those that are ignorant of those limits, there is no help for you - other than falling flat on your face.
You might want to review who 'cops an attitude' or the others - and study it hard. You won't find that in anything of mine. Keep reaching.
A simile to your approach. Sure, we can drive any car as fast as we want, on any road, anywhere, at any time and everyone will be happy. Let me know how that works out for ya.
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