This Saturdays wedding is going to be a hot mess.

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There has to be a lot more to the story because how can they move the reception forward 1.5 hr. Even if the ceremony is at the hall something doesn't sound right. How would you get every body involved in the wedding to the location 1.5 hr earlier when at times people are flying in from out of town.

This is why.

I also have this venue on my do not play list, as they are notorious for this. They are considered a very low end venue ...
 
Because the venue makes more money by doing this. They'll save at least 2 hours of payroll by running events back-to-back instead of with downtime in between.



The reception will start on time. In this case, it'll even start early. The downside is that invitations have been printed and guests have to be notified; I agree that this is the hallmark of bad service on the venue's part, but as Taso noted, this isn't a very good venue to begin with. Either way, the right to shift the start & end times is probably noted in their contract somewhere.



Nobody's going to come in as you're setting up, unless it takes you more than an hour (which we've already determined shouldn't happen). If the room isn't ready, the venue's not going to let anyone in. In addition, nobody's possibly in the future looking to book a DJ right now, so get rid of those scenarios. When people need a DJ, they'll ask their friends on Facebook who they should contact.

You're putting yourself before your client. Stop that.
You missed what I said. The first event isn't to end until 4:30 which is the same time the reception is to start. So how can it start on time. We won't be able to load in until the people from the first event are out of the room.

I said my first issue was with how the venue is treating this couple and their guests. It's wrong and they need to be punished which probably nothing will happen. Something would happen if it was my wedding. If I had to I would go to the news media and tell them what happened.
 
my one and only gay wedding they complained - i was setting up 'in the way of pictures'...so I stopped..then they complained I was rushing to setup to get ready on time.

Moving someplace else for pictures? Communicating all this up front? Nah.

It was all my fault for setting up the only place the venue permits...

While this can happen at any wedding, and anyone can be a self centered bridezilla...i'm not as enthused about doing another gay wedding because of this. IN a decade of hetero weddings never had a bridezilla (one was close though..pregnant so we'll blame the hormones)

So you'll be the loser in this.
 
How can they move the time a week ahead of time?

The invitations, wtih times, went out what, 6, 8 weeks ago?

Why the time change?

You missed what I said. The first event isn't to end until 4:30 which is the same time the reception is to start. So how can it start on time. We won't be able to load in until the people from the first event are out of the room.

I said my first issue was with how the venue is treating this couple and their guests. It's wrong and they need to be punished which probably nothing will happen. Something would happen if it was my wedding. If I had to I would go to the news media and tell them what happened.
 
I said my first issue was with how the venue is treating this couple and their guests. It's wrong and they need to be punished which probably nothing will happen. Something would happen if it was my wedding. If I had to I would go to the news media and tell them what happened.

Mix you are also missing something. None of this is any of your problem
 
You missed what I said. The first event isn't to end until 4:30 which is the same time the reception is to start. So how can it start on time. We won't be able to load in until the people from the first event are out of the room.
I said my first issue was with how the venue is treating this couple and their guests. It's wrong and they need to be punished which probably nothing will happen. Something would happen if it was my wedding. If I had to I would go to the news media and tell them what happened.

And YOU missed what several other have TRIED to explain.
There is an hour of cocktails in another room.
You will need to (try to) load in while the other event is cleaning up...
so there will probably be another DJ loading out...
and the wait staff will be clearing tables and putting out new place settings.
It will make things different, it will be confusing, people will be getting in other people's way...
but you can make it work.
As for the venue pissing off the clients, don't sweat it. You have your issues, they will have theirs.
If anything, the screw up with the venue will distract them from any problems you may be having.
I had a venue that tried to do two events in one day. THEY only had one room,
so me, my gear, and all of the guests were standing in the parking lot until they were ready.
(they were offering free drinks to the guests, while they waited in 90-degree heat)
And it happened more than once.

I, too, have venues nearby that pull some pretty crazy sh*t.
But they are still in business, and not hurting for bookings.
 
And YOU missed what several other have TRIED to explain.
There is an hour of cocktails in another room.
You will need to (try to) load in while the other event is cleaning up...
so there will probably be another DJ loading out...
and the wait staff will be clearing tables and putting out new place settings.
It will make things different, it will be confusing, people will be getting in other people's way...
but you can make it work.
As for the venue pissing off the clients, don't sweat it. You have your issues, they will have theirs.
If anything, the screw up with the venue will distract them from any problems you may be having.
I had a venue that tried to do two events in one day. THEY only had one room,
so me, my gear, and all of the guests were standing in the parking lot until they were ready.
(they were offering free drinks to the guests, while they waited in 90-degree heat)
And it happened more than once.

I, too, have venues nearby that pull some pretty crazy sh*t.
But they are still in business, and not hurting for bookings.
I seriously doubt there will be another room for the cocktail hour. This place is very busy and I would say all the rooms will be used that day with different events. I get that there is nothing we can do about this situation. I just don't want people making us out to be the bad guys.
 
I seriously doubt there will be another room for the cocktail hour. This place is very busy and I would say all the rooms will be used that day with different events. I get that there is nothing we can do about this situation. I just don't want people making us out to be the bad guys.

Seriously doubt?
If this were my wedding, I would have known if cocktails were in a separate room BEFORE I booked it.
And I would have known if I was responsible for music for cocktails.
And there IS something you can do about it.
Contact the client and let them know.
It may add to their ever-growing stress level.....but it WILL prevent YOU from being the bad guy.
 
How about you call the venue and find out rather than assume where the cocktail hour is? How about telling the client you need to charge extra to get additional help to set up faster? That will definitely make the client have an issue with the venue (I did this at this venue when I had the issue, and they moved the party by half an hour after the client called furiously complaining about the situation they put her in... 30 min is better than nothing). Bottom line... as long as the clients understand your limitations and what you can and cant do within the time and situation given... you shouldn't worry about blame.
 
We're working this event together even though he's the DJ doing the event. I just don't want us looking bad because of the venue's screw up.
 
As others have mentioned, a few phone calls go a long way.

For quick set ups, planning can help. As taso mentioned, having everything ready to go make a big difference.

There is a hotel downtown that the weddings are on the bottom floor of a really cool building, but there are a bunch of stores there that don't close until 5. So, you can't set up until then and weddings start at 6.

I simply have everything on my cart ready to go so as the clock strikes 5, we are setting up. I understand your situation is different but you can still have everything ready right outside. 2 people setting up sound shouldn't take long at all. Now, you can make it your fault of you don't start bringing equipment in and be ready to go the moment you are able.
 
As others have mentioned, a few phone calls go a long way.

For quick set ups, planning can help. As taso mentioned, having everything ready to go make a big difference.

There is a hotel downtown that the weddings are on the bottom floor of a really cool building, but there are a bunch of stores there that don't close until 5. So, you can't set up until then and weddings start at 6.

I simply have everything on my cart ready to go so as the clock strikes 5, we are setting up. I understand your situation is different but you can still have everything ready right outside. 2 people setting up sound shouldn't take long at all. Now, you can make it your fault of you don't start bringing equipment in and be ready to go the moment you are able.
Great suggestion to have the tops on the cart with the controller ready to roll and have the subs outside the van as well ready to go. The other smaller stuff is nothing.
 
I seriously doubt there will be another room for the cocktail hour. This place is very busy and I would say all the rooms will be used that day with different events. I get that there is nothing we can do about this situation. I just don't want people making us out to be the bad guys.
How does this affect you it's not even your gig
 
It's best to have everything in and close as possible to the room like I suggested earlier. The last thing you want is to have to move a van or be running in or out the bulding especially if there might be another DJ leaving.
That may be tough... depends on if its a main floor room, or if an elevator/stairs are required for rooms on the second floor. Mix do you know which room you are in yet?
 
Is the whole reception six hours? Usually wedding receptions are five hours with the first hour being the cocktail hour usually in a different room. In my contract we specify how much time needed for set up to cover my behind. But quite a few times we've been given as little as 10 to 15 minutes to setup because like you said there is another event going on in the room. What we do is assemble and pre-position in the system in the hallway then when the event is over we just roll it in plug in the AC connect the speakers and Walla ready to go in a few minutes. Although you always want to have plenty of time sometimes with these halls it just doesn't go that way. It is a lot easier to do the quick setup than upsetting the client even though it's totally the catering halls fault. But Really won't take 1 1/2 hrs to hook up a simple system. My Daughter and I can hook up our video dance party system moving it from the van to the room, have it fully operational with sound with subs, video with a screen 17ft screen & lighting in that time. Everything Rolls in on two rock 'n' roller & one regular hand cart. To me the big issue is when they don't have an elevator and haven't told me beforehand or the elevator breaks. That's when you need to have things spelled out in your contract.

My apologies. You said the same thing I did, way before I did.
 
We're working this event together even though he's the DJ doing the event. I just don't want us looking bad because of the venue's screw up.

Why is he using your equipment? It's like you guys pool your resources together to do a party. What if you blow a speaker , or other equipment breaks when he is the one getting paid for the gig?
 
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That may be tough... depends on if its a main floor room, or if an elevator/stairs are required for rooms on the second floor. Mix do you know which room you are in yet?
There's only one room in this place that can accommodate that many people. I did an event in that room once. It was for my ex girlfriends sisters 60th birthday celebration. You can load in through a side door that puts you right in the room. The good thing is that room has a stage. I don't know if the couple will be up there or we can be up there.
 
Why is he using your equipment? It's like you guys pool your resources together to do a party. What if you blow a speaker , or other equipment breaks when he is the one getting paid for the gig?

Macho, Can you answer this? Very interested in how you would handle this kind of situation.
 
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