This was last nights event I attended.

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Mix I'm gonna call you out on this one , I'm saying YOU took those pictures and just screwed up on some and then didn't bother to check how they came out
 
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Can't you clean up the wires?

It's a very simple process that takes two minutes... Just my opinion.
 
all that matters here is if the guests had a good time and even with blurry pics, it looked like they did.

Yes and no, it depends what you are selling. Guests having fun is one of the most important goals, but not necessarily the only goal. If I go into a dive bar versus an upscale cocktail bar, I'm going to have different expectations. At both, I want to have fun, but I hold them to different standards. For DJs, I think it tends to rely on how they present themselves, as well as what type of event it is. Guests having fun is a byproduct, but having pride in a set up isn't rocket science.
 
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His setup to was decent. All I see he could have needed that would have helped is a table top facade.
 
I feel bad for clients when the dj doesn't take pride in the appearance of their gear.
So easy to do and results in more bookings, for sure.

Yes and no, it depends what you are selling. Guests having fun is one of the most important goals, but not necessarily the only goal. If I go into a dive bar versus an upscale cocktail bar, I'm going to have different expectations. At both, I want to have fun, but I hold them to different standards. For DJs, I think it tends to rely on how they present themselves, as well as what type of event it is. Guests having fun is a byproduct, but having pride in a set up isn't rocket science.

In his defense (or rather another angle), this guy appears to be mainly a club jock. The client(s) likely knew who/what he was and wanted him.
I personally wouldn't expect him to have an entirely seperate approach for what might be just pick-up gigs. He seems to be selling exactly on point.
 
In his defense (or rather another angle), this guy appears to be mainly a club jock. The client(s) likely knew who/what he was and wanted him.
I personally wouldn't expect him to have an entirely seperate approach for what might be just pick-up gigs. He seems to be selling exactly on point.

I actually agree, I think he was probably in-line with expectations in this case. I just took issue with the stance that guests having fun is the only thing we should focus on. There's a lot of extra effort in polishing my service that I could skip if presentation didn't matter at all.
 
I actually agree, I think he was probably in-line with expectations in this case. I just took issue with the stance that guests having fun is the only thing we should focus on. There's a lot of extra effort in polishing my service that I could skip if presentation didn't matter at all.
I agree with you but when is the last time you got a compliment on how your setup looked? You can have a great looking setup but if you suck as a DJ nobody is going to say man that DJ had a great looking setup. They are going to talk about the poor job the DJ did and pass the word on about not booking that DJ to an event for you or anyone else.
 
I agree with you but when is the last time you got a compliment on how your setup looked? You can have a great looking setup but if you suck as a DJ nobody is going to say man that DJ had a great looking setup. They are going to talk about the poor job the DJ did and pass the word on about not booking that DJ to an event for you or anyone else.
I get complimented on my setup at about 50% of my gigs
 
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I agree with you but when is the last time you got a compliment on how your setup looked? You can have a great looking setup but if you suck as a DJ nobody is going to say man that DJ had a great looking setup. They are going to talk about the poor job the DJ did and pass the word on about not booking that DJ to an event for you or anyone else.

I don't know... my clients tend to like both my set up and my DJing.
 
I agree with you but when is the last time you got a compliment on how your setup looked? You can have a great looking setup but if you suck as a DJ nobody is going to say man that DJ had a great looking setup. They are going to talk about the poor job the DJ did and pass the word on about not booking that DJ to an event for you or anyone else.

It's not how many that tell you how good or bad it is it's how many tell others...
 
I am going to give a pass on the blurry pictures. The feeling I got from the pictures was that the people had a damned good time. I like that. I'm sure the DJ did a good job, but I would never show up with only 1 top. Music is recorded and mastered in stereo, and that is how it should be played. If I only have room for 2 speakers, it's going to be 2 tops, not 1 top and 1 sub. Anyway Happy Birthday to Dorothy. Judging by her smile, she enjoyed it. The kid is cute too. Boy would I love to restart the record at 30 years old!
 
I am going to give a pass on the blurry pictures. The feeling I got from the pictures was that the people had a damned good time. I like that. I'm sure the DJ did a good job, but I would never show up with only 1 top. Music is recorded and mastered in stereo, and that is how it should be played. If I only have room for 2 speakers, it's going to be 2 tops, not 1 top and 1 sub. Anyway Happy Birthday to Dorothy. Judging by her smile, she enjoyed it. The kid is cute too. Boy would I love to restart the record at 30 years old!

In general, I agree with you. Stereo can be difficult and depends on where the audience is in relation to where the sound is. Even though music is recorded in stereo, there are not that many 'true stereo' songs today - that contain a noticeable difference between the channels.
 
In general, I agree with you. Stereo can be difficult and depends on where the audience is in relation to where the sound is. Even though music is recorded in stereo, there are not that many 'true stereo' songs today - that contain a noticeable difference between the channels.

I agree with you Tig. I'm not an expert here by any means, but I've noticed in my brief DJ career that stereo doesn't play well in wide rooms where the speakers are spread far apart. I have my rack wired for both stereo and mono outputs, and I've tried both options at several venues and found that stereo works best when the speakers are setup closer to my booth and aimed straight ahead. When they're setup wide apart and/or pointed away from each other, one side or the other misses out on parts of the better stereo recordings. I also agree that a lot of the newer tracks have little separation between the left and right channels.


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I disagree that there is little separation in most recordings. I find that engineers make extensive use of panning and quite frequently place different sound in each channel or move sounds across the sound field. More in some genres than others, but to me stereo reproduction at a gig is critical to overall sound quality. And I won't use a setup with widely placed tops. I'll add in more tops to fill it in. One top and one sub as shown in the birthday gig is out of the question for me.
 
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I disagree that there is little separation in most recordings. I find that engineers make extensive use of panning and quite frequently place different sound in each channel or move sounds across the sound field. More in some genres than others, but to me stereo reproduction at a gig is critical to overall sound quality. And I won't use a setup with widely placed tops. I'll add in more tops to fill it in. One top and one sub as shown in the birthday gig is out of the question for me.
Well with 6 hour setups you have the luxury of more gear in the timeframes most of us work in "about an hour to setup" really world limitations come into effect
 
That's mainly due to lights. Setting up 4 tops and a sub compared to 2 tops and a sub adds a trivial amount of time. Sound quality is job 1. Mono music sounds bad.