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The Wizard Of OZ said:
There is a guy here DJrox who has a good answer for you.

Perhaps he'll be along shortly? :sqlaugh: :sqerr:
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I'm here, but not shortly. Personal physical blessings prevent such a characterization. :sqwink:

The Wizard Of OZ said:
I can actually understand not handing everything on a silver platter to someone with 5 posts. I'm not gonna rake them over the coals though. Maybe I'm turning into and old fart from a FNG. We should post a sticky, "all new guys need to search old posts and do some research before asking for a playlist".
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Welcome, Wiz, the land of the Had enough and ain't ashamed to say so!

As to the "raking over the coals", such requests for "handing everything on a silver platter" will continue until the price for doing so is more negative than desirable.


Personally, I prescribe more of this...

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and when I become benevolent dictator, it will be SOP.
 
Remember the old days (before the internet) when a DJ just starting out either had to make his/her own mistakes, or had befriend an experienced DJ and ask to be mentored??? Imagine having to actually earn a person's respect BEFORE they would offer to help you! YIKES!!

Man, it's a wonder any of us made it at all!! ;)
 
DJ Zac said:
Imagine having to actually earn a person's respect BEFORE they would offer to help you! YIKES!!
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Is there an echo in this universe...


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DJ Zac said:
Remember the old days (before the internet) when a DJ just starting out either had to make his/her own mistakes, or had befriend an experienced DJ and ask to be mentored??? Imagine having to actually earn a person's respect BEFORE they would offer to help you! YIKES!!

Man, it's a wonder any of us made it at all!! ;)
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It's my belief that DJs, as a group, think so much of themselves (and how brilliant and wonderful they are) that getting them to talk about what they do, even to the point of giving the entire store away, is pretty easy to do. Your mileage may vary.
 
Steve Sharp said:
It's my belief that DJs, as a group, think so much of themselves (and how brilliant and wonderful they are) that getting them to talk about what they do, even to the point of giving the entire store away, is pretty easy to do. Your mileage may vary.
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That is certainly what those that profit from these advertising repositories bank on.
 
thatmusicguy, things change-sometimes very fast-people change-enlightenment can descend upon those who are willing to open their minds to it. sometimes it's not the song you're playing, it's the time of night or a certain point in the overall event timeline or it's just after something that set a different mood. Do you know what I'm saying?

You told me to take what is good and filter out what isn't. I agree and offer your own words back to you. You don't need to worry about being maligned or raked over the coals here, you're a respected contributor that sometimes takes the side of the underdog or a controversial point of view. We need people like that with courage and conviction. But if you take the side of the underdog, be prepared to take a little heat from time to time.

I take heat because I often say what I believe is the truth AND what I know other people are thinking, but they won't say because they don't want to be unpopular or get criticized or get involved in controvesy.

In any case I can see DJrox's point of view from the other thread, I just don't find sarcasm in EVERY post to be all that interesting or witty. Sarcasm can be a spice, parody can be the herbs, metaphor can can be the sauce but regular use of plain old civil rhetoric can be a lot more palatable as the main course. Just my opinion.
 
thatmusicguy said:
Man, this must be bizarro ODJT. Last time a "list" was asked for I took a beating for the position I took, as did Rox.....

Now look at y'all.....
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My position is consistent... I help those who help themselves, and those who give back to the community.... asking for a playlist is not getting "help", it is laziness. And then when you add that some of those same posters never offer anything, well, why would anybody bother, I wonder.
 
Steve Sharp said:
It's my belief that DJs, as a group, think so much of themselves (and how brilliant and wonderful they are) that getting them to talk about what they do, even to the point of giving the entire store away, is pretty easy to do. Your mileage may vary.
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What exactly are we giving away? In reality I can't tell you anything that you can't find in a 60 second search on the internet nor can you tell me anything I can't find elsewhere. This is a DJ board we don't do rocket science here

On occasion I have asked for help here and recieved it. My main reason was this is a trusted source with vast knowledge instead of looking around and finding opinion I took the best from the best.

As far as giving the store away I could detail what I do for a performance from first contact to goodnight and anyone else would be hard pressed to repeat it because the most important factorin any of our business is the person in it
 
thatmusicguy said:
Man, this must be bizarro ODJT. Last time a "list" was asked for I took a beating for the position I took, as did Rox.....

Now look at y'all.....
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Not really, I'm just tired of beating the same old drum trying to get you guys to at least not beat the crap out of newbies. I gave up. If we continue down this path ODJT will be just like the boards we all no longer frequent, bashing anyone who doesn't have a 2500+ post count to get our jollies off.

I think this is why other DJ board admins are the way they are; no matter how good of an argument, no matter how nice they are about asking people to play nice with others, which includes newbies we see threads like this that chit all over a guy asking for help. What's so hard about ignoring the thread?

idk, maybe I should take my own advice. :sqwink:
 
Dan this place IS different. There are good people here and for the most part people behave themselves. We've had a lot of new people sign up lately and this place is growing and evolving. No one here benefits from someone who signs up asks one or two questions, gets what they want and then is never heard from again. People who come here and see the value of this place and then stick around are the ones that we want and need.
 
Among the reasons I come here is for the sharing of information, and points of view. If it's a one-way transaction, I'm not satisfied.

Jeff Romard said:
What exactly are we giving away?
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In this thread, I've given away nothing, but I'm also expressing why I'm not willing to give it away. If Dan and/or other mods here agree that I should have ignored and not participated in this thread in the first place, I'll consider that for the future, because I guarantee you that some new member here will ask the same or similar questions again.

Jeff Romard said:
In reality I can't tell you anything that you can't find in a 60 second search on the internet nor can you tell me anything I can't find elsewhere
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Papa Deuce said:
I help those who help themselves, and those who give back to the community.... asking for a playlist is not getting "help", it is laziness. And then when you add that some of those same posters never offer anything, well, why would anybody bother, I wonder.
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And there you have it: is this forum designed so that anyone who begs for one can be tossed a fish, or are we here to possibly teach someone TO fish, and in the process learn other skills or even simply enjoy fellowship from the person we helped teach fish?

Jeff Romard said:
the most important factor in any of our business is the person in it
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Absolutely.

Big Dan said:
I'm just tired of beating the same old drum trying to get you guys to at least not beat the crap out of newbies.
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Do you believe that was done here, and if so, did I contribute to it?

If that's the case, can you recommend a way in which I could express my opinion about it without "beating the crap" out of a "newbie"? The vast majority of the time, I mean well.

The Wizard Of OZ said:
No one here benefits from someone who signs up asks one or two questions, gets what they want and then is never heard from again. People who come here and see the value of this place and then stick around are the ones that we want and need.
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Exactly.

How do we encourage that to happen? Ignoring the post won't do it (they'll think we're stuck up a-holes). I'm not completely comfortable in simply answering the post (and have explained why). What's the best approach, in this example? Is there some middle ground or third option?
 
Middle ground is where we tell them to take some time to look around and read some previous posts because there is a lot of great information here and that they can learn a lot, as I did with one recent new guy. I can't recall him making another post since I and others welcomed him. It seems to me that just like a lot of other things it's a numbers game. Some will, some won't, NEXT!
 
I'll add $0.00000000001, Dan this place rocks and I think people have bent backwards trying to help. However, in this case we still have no idea what happened at the last party with the information that was provided and helped a lot. Not even a thank you after the fact or a report o what happened. And now we get another playlist request? The 80's has a ton of music and info available on the net and if you search ODJT you'll find even more fun stuff.

But what we see is just another request for another playlist. I don't know it seems people here are doing the homework and taking notes for another person. JMHO.
 
My thoughts on the matter...

We were all new to boards at one time or another. I walked onto ProDJ when I first discovered it and asked a list type question. Here I was with about 13 years under the belt and only one or two posts. Doesn't that kind of sound like you not too long ago Papa?

I got blasted until I qualified myself with the experience I had.
 
GoodKnightDJ said:
My thoughts on the matter...

We were all new to boards at one time or another. I walked onto ProDJ when I first discovered it and asked a list type question. Here I was with about 13 years under the belt and only one or two posts. Doesn't that kind of sound like you not too long ago Papa?

I got blasted until I qualified myself with the experience I had.
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No Tom, it doesn't, because I immediately let everybody know that I had 200+ events under my belt AND I certainly didn't ask anybody to provide me a playlist.
 
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