EV EKX vs ETX

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I'm playing around with these now so I don't waste time setting up when I'm actually at a gig. I'm trying to hook up the 2 EV EKX15s and my non-powered Peavey 118 subs. I come out of my Numark mix with both channels. Would I take both channels into my Peavey IPR3000 amp and take both amp outputs to my subs? Then the amp has a pass through at the inputs. Would I come out of each of those into my EVs? Trying to keep it as simple as possible.
 

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I wasn't sure what the purpose of the pass thru's were on the amp I'm using, but it seems to work for what I did.
 
Maybe .. you want to cut out frequencies below 90 Hz in the tops (which I think you can do with its DSP) .. but you also want to do that on the subs, and if you don't have the DSP version of the IPR, you can't without an external box .. like a DriveRack (PA, PA+, PA2 or even PX).
 
Not sure about his gear, but my top (yamaha dxr- diff brand but same ballpark) have built in hi pass filters - the pass thru passes the whole signal, but the built in amp in the speaker just ignores the sub 80/100/120 hz freq (your choice).

When I had a passive sub and used the amp for it, it also had a pass thru that passed the whole signal. When I set the amp for sub use it has it's own low pass filter (also adjustable) and sum to mono choices.

My current pwered subs (both ev) have pass thru (full signal) and built in low pass, adjustable on the ETX but not on teh ZXa1.
 
IceBurghDJ said:
Not sure about his gear, but my top (yamaha dxr- diff brand but same ballpark) have built in hi pass filters - the pass thru passes the whole signal, but the built in amp in the speaker just ignores the sub 80/100/120 hz freq (your choice).

When I had a passive sub and used the amp for it, it also had a pass thru that passed the whole signal. When I set the amp for sub use it has it's own low pass filter (also adjustable) and sum to mono choices.

My current powered subs (both ev) have pass thru (full signal) and built in low pass, adjustable on the ETX but not on teh ZXa1.
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Many tops these days have that capability .. the issue is on the sub side. There is a need to low-pass the subs so they don't try to reproduce above some threshold (say 90Hz) as well as cutting the lower stuff from the tops. Unless the amp driving the sub has that feature (some have it in DSP, some have a switch), you'd need to do that in a processor or crossover.
 
I know the amp I use has a switch at the inputs that specify the channel for hi pass, full range, or subs.
 
BlueLineDJ said:
I know the amp I use has a switch at the inputs that specify the channel for hi pass, full range, or subs.
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If the pass through jacks pass a complete signal through .. then you'll be good. Run the cables to amp from mixer, set the switch to "sub", send the through jacks to the tops and set them to "with subwoofer"
 
azdeejay said:
I understand you are talking about the tops, but I have a pair EKX subs, and I am very please with them.
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I love the EKX 15 tops I got last week. Now that I am ready to purchase the subs I am curious if the ETX are necessary or if the EKX subs will do the job. Majority of my events are wedding reception and school dances. I noticed some physical difference as well. Do the ETX's only have wheels on them? There is a huge weight difference as well it appears.
 
I have the etx18 sub. Kicks butt. Has wheels included (big ones too).
114lbs, but very manageable to pickup/set down off it's wheels, etc.

How much do you need for a school dance? Depends... in the cafeterios I run 2 12" tops and 1 ETX sub - one fo the reasons I chose the etx over the ekx was the extra output/watts.
I'd like a second but need to book more school dances to justify it - you do not need a second for a wedding.

Last weekend's wedding I chatted with a DJ friend (he had wedding in adjoining ballroom)> We talked after..so I didn't hear his setup. He has ETX tops and subs and feel you need 2 or better yet 4 subs for a school dance...

Depends what you want...sound good? Shake things? Break things? What size room and kid count? Where are you setting up?

I did 150-220 kids in a cafeteria- hard, long room with a lower ceiling and I could be back near a wall. If I was in a ballroom with higher ceiling, carpet etc I may want more sub.

But then I got a gorack and it completely changed the sound of my little 12" ev subs...no they won't shake the glasses on the tables,but they really come alive with the gorack in the mix. Haven't run it with the big etx yet so can't say how much diff it makes. How much diff? I went from limiting on the 12" subs to turning them DOWN and still have MORE sub/sound.
 
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I think it's a matter of degree .. both decent subs. For weddings, not sure you'd drive them hard enough to see much of a difference. The ETX are built a little better, but if you handle them properly, the EKX should be fine. I guess if I was getting 1, I would go ETX .. if getting 2, then EKX is fine.
 
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Okay, to continue the discussion, EV EKX15" sub or Turbosound iQ15B? The EV says 1300 watts, which I assume are peak, giving it a roughly 650 watt real power rating. The Turbosound is listed at 3000 watts peak, so I'm guessing 1500 real watts. Reviews look good on the Turbosound and it can be had for a couple hundred less than the EV. Which way you would lean?
 
rickryan.com said:
Okay, to continue the discussion, EV EKX15" sub or Turbosound iQ15B? The EV says 1300 watts, which I assume are peak, giving it a roughly 650 watt real power rating. The Turbosound is listed at 3000 watts peak, so I'm guessing 1500 real watts. Reviews look good on the Turbosound and it can be had for a couple hundred less than the EV. Which way you would lean?
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RCF 705AS-II .. :) Based on the limited time I heard them and the build quality of my EVOX, I'd have no issue ordering them .. Turbosound used to be a quirky, quality company (anyone remember their purplish blue coating) .. but now under Behringer, not sure I'd go there myself.
 
rickryan.com said:
Okay, to continue the discussion, EV EKX15" sub or Turbosound iQ15B? The EV says 1300 watts, which I assume are peak, giving it a roughly 650 watt real power rating. The Turbosound is listed at 3000 watts peak, so I'm guessing 1500 real watts. Reviews look good on the Turbosound and it can be had for a couple hundred less than the EV. Which way you would lean?
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I vote the RCF that Steve mentioned, Rick you always talk about the quality of the shows you bring, yet you always try to cheap out on the gear, it's time to step up to the plate and buy some quality, not saying you don't have quality gear, but you always play this game in your head before purchasing, there a very few economical solutions that make some sense, but that number is very very small in the world we live in
 
tunes4046 said:
I vote the RCF that Steve mentioned, Rick you always talk about the quality of the shows you bring, yet you always try to cheap out on the gear,
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I have, and use, Yorkville and QSC. I don't think that qualifies as "cheap out on the gear". I'm currently looking at bang for the buck. According to specs and reviews, the Turbosound is likely going to have significantly more thump than the EV. That's not cheaping out.
 
Based on specs, the RCF 705 and the new JBL PRX815XLF have the exact same peak output with 1/2 the wattage (actually 1db higher). And given that Klark Teknik (listed as the amp in the Turbosound) never made amps (or hasn't in a long time) .. I assume it's just a rebranded Behringer.

Both the JBL and the RCF are rated (+/- 3db) down to 40 Hz .. the Turbosound is down to 50Hz .. And the JBL weighs 56#, the RCF 51# and the Turbosound 70#.

It's probably an OK sub .. IMO the RCF and JBL (or EV) are better.
 
rickryan.com said:
I have, and use, Yorkville and QSC. I don't think that qualifies as "cheap out on the gear". I'm currently looking at bang for the buck. According to specs and reviews, the Turbosound is likely going to have significantly more thump than the EV. That's not cheaping out.
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you forgot to quote this part of my statement
tunes4046 said:
not saying you don't have quality gear
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steve149 said:
Based on specs, the RCF 705 and the new JBL PRX815XLF have the exact same peak output with 1/2 the wattage (actually 1db higher). And given that Klark Teknik (listed as the amp in the Turbosound) never made amps (or hasn't in a long time) .. I assume it's just a rebranded Behringer.

Both the JBL and the RCF are rated (+/- 3db) down to 40 Hz .. the Turbosound is down to 50Hz .. And the JBL weighs 56#, the RCF 51# and the Turbosound 70#.

It's probably an OK sub .. IMO the RCF and JBL (or EV) are better.
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I have to admit, I really like those perm-mounted casters on the EV.
 
rickryan.com said:
I have to admit, I really like those perm-mounted casters on the EV.
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I think that's only on the ETX .. and it's big and heavy enough to need them.
 
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